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Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:16 pm
by zonagrad
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:56 am He isn't a growing tyrant. He's a last-gasp administrator who's overplayed his hand too many times. He's been caught too many times. One of the good things for him about firing Miller is that it appeased the faculty, who are putting a ton of pressure on him. Presidents in this era don't last long, but even if he could swim upstream (which he can't), success in basketball and football would result in pay incentives and retention issues that would increase the pressure from the faculty and the union, who want to de-prioritize sports. For university presidents, it's often the cure that kills you.
A school president with real balls would tell a great number of the faculty -- those involved in majors that have zero market place value and could barely earn minimum wage if they weren't in academia-- to fuck off. And the University of Arizona has a large number of bottom feeders who don't realize how lucky they are to be getting paid to teach material that won't help students land a decent paying job.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm
by Longhorned
I'm going to answer a private question publicly in case it's helpful for framing Miller's otherwise senseless firing. I'm going to leave some names out.

Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.

But it isn't enough to relieve the pressure. The alumni and boosters are on one side, and the faculty and staff are on the other (which is stupid). And anything that satisfies one side increases pressure coming from the other side. The administration clearly caves to the pressure on the faculty/staff side. But alumni/booster support for basketball and football brings in pressure from the other side. If the new football and basketball coaches fail, that pressure breaks the administration. If they succeed, the employee side rages over the incentives. It's lose-lose.

ABOR could extend the contract, sure. They've gotten some shiny things they want out of the experience. But with what's gone down, is it really the easy way to continue to get their wins? Like Miller himself was reported to say, sometimes you just need a fresh new start.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:34 pm
by EVCat
bachelor's degrees aren't tech school degrees. They aren't meant to land a decent paying job. They can, but the intent is a whole education with a focused major, not how to do job x. If that isn't what you want, you don't go...

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by zonagrad
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm I'm going to answer a private question publicly in case it's helpful for framing Miller's otherwise senseless firing. I'm going to leave some names out.

Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.

But it isn't enough to relieve the pressure. The alumni and boosters are on one side, and the faculty and staff are on the other (which is stupid). And anything that satisfies one side increases pressure coming from the other side. The administration clearly caves to the pressure on the faculty/staff side. But alumni/booster support for basketball and football brings in pressure from the other side. If the new football and basketball coaches fail, that pressure breaks the administration. If they succeed, the employee side rages over the incentives. It's lose-lose.

ABOR could extend the contract, sure. They've gotten some shiny things they want out of the experience. But with what's gone down, is it really the easy way to continue to get their wins? Like Miller himself was reported to say, sometimes you just need a fresh new start.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinas ... ee1101285d

I don't know how this specialist came to this conclusion -- unless there's some creative accounting going on. The basketball program, according to the most recent Forbes' rankings based on a 3-year average, generates revenue close to $24 million annually with a profit of $13 million. I don't know many programs or departments within the UA, athletic or academic, that are turning those types of numbers. And there are a great many faculty members earning six figure salaries with a nice fat pension who aren't worth $10/hour.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:44 pm
by Alieberman
I want to personally thank all the white men at the UofA who have been getting over-paid compared to their female counterparts for years and years. Of course it took a lawsuit and a major salary equity review to discover this but in the end, it got my wife got a huge raise last year (right before she got furloughed)

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by Longhorned
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm I'm going to answer a private question publicly in case it's helpful for framing Miller's otherwise senseless firing. I'm going to leave some names out.

Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.

But it isn't enough to relieve the pressure. The alumni and boosters are on one side, and the faculty and staff are on the other (which is stupid). And anything that satisfies one side increases pressure coming from the other side. The administration clearly caves to the pressure on the faculty/staff side. But alumni/booster support for basketball and football brings in pressure from the other side. If the new football and basketball coaches fail, that pressure breaks the administration. If they succeed, the employee side rages over the incentives. It's lose-lose.

ABOR could extend the contract, sure. They've gotten some shiny things they want out of the experience. But with what's gone down, is it really the easy way to continue to get their wins? Like Miller himself was reported to say, sometimes you just need a fresh new start.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinas ... ee1101285d

I don't know how this specialist came to this conclusion -- unless there's some creative accounting going on. The basketball program, according to the most recent Forbes' rankings based on a 3-year average, generates revenue close to $24 million annually with a profit of $13 million. I don't know many programs or departments within the UA, athletic or academic, that are turning those types of numbers. And there are a great many faculty members earning six figure salaries with a nice fat pension who aren't worth $10/hour.
The main reason you have a good point is that, overall, basketball and football are net generators at a level incomparable to anything else on campus. Not everyone understands that that's good for everyone involved. It isn't profit, even if it's like profit. It's revenue that has to be spent.

But something that should be a minor issue is that the campus indeed supports Arizona Athletics. Bunsis knows his shit, and his numbers don't lie. But frankly, Bunsis has absolutely no qualifications to be taken seriously for his sports-related takes, and folding his colorful comments in with the analysis is what introduced the employees to Sean Miller and Deandre Ayton, who the faculty otherwise never thought about and didn't really even know their names. To me, the source of the comments were deeply familiar: a sports fan who hates Arizona men's basketball.

What the faculty need to understand is that they don't understand athletics departments, and that the alumni and boosters share the same interests as the employees. What the alumni need to understand is that they really don't often understand what the faculty do, and that they too, share the same interests as the faculty and all the employees. I mean, it's literally two message boards coming to the same conclusions about the same problem while having no idea about how they relate to each other.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm
by zonagrad
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm I'm going to answer a private question publicly in case it's helpful for framing Miller's otherwise senseless firing. I'm going to leave some names out.

Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.

But it isn't enough to relieve the pressure. The alumni and boosters are on one side, and the faculty and staff are on the other (which is stupid). And anything that satisfies one side increases pressure coming from the other side. The administration clearly caves to the pressure on the faculty/staff side. But alumni/booster support for basketball and football brings in pressure from the other side. If the new football and basketball coaches fail, that pressure breaks the administration. If they succeed, the employee side rages over the incentives. It's lose-lose.

ABOR could extend the contract, sure. They've gotten some shiny things they want out of the experience. But with what's gone down, is it really the easy way to continue to get their wins? Like Miller himself was reported to say, sometimes you just need a fresh new start.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinas ... ee1101285d

I don't know how this specialist came to this conclusion -- unless there's some creative accounting going on. The basketball program, according to the most recent Forbes' rankings based on a 3-year average, generates revenue close to $24 million annually with a profit of $13 million. I don't know many programs or departments within the UA, athletic or academic, that are turning those types of numbers. And there are a great many faculty members earning six figure salaries with a nice fat pension who aren't worth $10/hour.
The main reason you have a good point is that, overall, basketball and football are net generators at a level incomparable to anything else on campus. Not everyone understands that that's good for everyone involved. It isn't profit, even if it's like profit. It's revenue that has to be spent.

But something that should be a minor issue is that the campus indeed supports Arizona Athletics. Bunsis knows his shit, and his numbers don't lie. But frankly, Bunsis has absolutely no qualifications to be taken seriously for his sports-related takes, and folding his colorful comments in with the analysis is what introduced the employees to Sean Miller and Deandre Ayton, who the faculty otherwise never thought about and didn't really even know their names. To me, the source of the comments were deeply familiar: a sports fan who hates Arizona men's basketball.

What the faculty need to understand is that they don't understand athletics departments, and that the alumni and boosters share the same interests as the employees. What the alumni need to understand is that they really don't often understand what the faculty do, and that they too, share the same interests as the faculty and all the employees. I mean, it's literally two message boards coming to the same conclusions about the same problem while having no idea about how they relate to each other.
It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional. The fact that this Bunsis guy decided to add his own commentary on Miller makes me completely question all of his analysis. And any administrator looking at Bunsis' analysis should be quick to point that out and dismiss his research. Completely unprofessional.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:08 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.
This is fantastic, by the way. So, I googled to understand more. First, a link to the only PDF I could find.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... HDuG38Xzsk

The first thing that cracks me up is criticizing Sean Miller at a point Kevin Sumlin was still in charge of the football program. The performance and profitability of basketball and football...well, not a comparison. Basketball was good to very good, football was a disaster. Basketball essentially maximized revenue and profits while football was losing money by being a pit of sadness with massive stadium upgrades needed.

Second, Bunsis appears to have made a cottage industry out of crapping on sports to earn consulting fees. The second major google hit for him is a consulting job for UBuffalo where his recommendation is relegating football to non-D1 to increase academic expenses. He used Arizona as a comparison for Buffalo, then appeared to simply repurpose that data into the Arizona consulting report, in which his conclusion was virtually identical.

ZG's post really says it all. For a guy who posits himself an accountant, Arizona basketball is the last portion of the school to look at if you're concerned about revenue issues. Basketball expenditures to revenues are not close to the issue. Bunsis appears to be more a master of the escape goat than the checkbook.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:14 pm
by ekat
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm I'm going to answer a private question publicly in case it's helpful for framing Miller's otherwise senseless firing. I'm going to leave some names out.

Some of you may remember that the university announced some grave financial issues that instilled deep fear for its ability to continue operating without issuing the largest pay cuts in the entire country. So the employees hired Howard Bunsis, a specialist in analyzing university financials. In addition to uncovering the lie about the financial issues, Bunsis showed how the university (and not just athletics ticket sales, merchandise, and donations) supports Arizona Athletics. And Bunsis explicitly called out Sean Miller as benefitting at the expense of the institution, and said that Miller isn't worth his pay because - cheating aside - he's a flawed recruiter and a mediocre game coach. The faculty, who are proud to be low information consumers of sports information and generally resentful about how sports are supposedly prioritized over academics, ate it up. Based on the conversations that ensued on the union message boards, it's clear that the sense grew that Miller and the administration were part of the same problem. Whatever the actual intentions, the firing of Sean Miller threw the faculty and staff a bone.

But it isn't enough to relieve the pressure. The alumni and boosters are on one side, and the faculty and staff are on the other (which is stupid). And anything that satisfies one side increases pressure coming from the other side. The administration clearly caves to the pressure on the faculty/staff side. But alumni/booster support for basketball and football brings in pressure from the other side. If the new football and basketball coaches fail, that pressure breaks the administration. If they succeed, the employee side rages over the incentives. It's lose-lose.

ABOR could extend the contract, sure. They've gotten some shiny things they want out of the experience. But with what's gone down, is it really the easy way to continue to get their wins? Like Miller himself was reported to say, sometimes you just need a fresh new start.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinas ... ee1101285d

I don't know how this specialist came to this conclusion -- unless there's some creative accounting going on. The basketball program, according to the most recent Forbes' rankings based on a 3-year average, generates revenue close to $24 million annually with a profit of $13 million. I don't know many programs or departments within the UA, athletic or academic, that are turning those types of numbers. And there are a great many faculty members earning six figure salaries with a nice fat pension who aren't worth $10/hour.
The main reason you have a good point is that, overall, basketball and football are net generators at a level incomparable to anything else on campus. Not everyone understands that that's good for everyone involved. It isn't profit, even if it's like profit. It's revenue that has to be spent.

But something that should be a minor issue is that the campus indeed supports Arizona Athletics. Bunsis knows his shit, and his numbers don't lie. But frankly, Bunsis has absolutely no qualifications to be taken seriously for his sports-related takes, and folding his colorful comments in with the analysis is what introduced the employees to Sean Miller and Deandre Ayton, who the faculty otherwise never thought about and didn't really even know their names. To me, the source of the comments were deeply familiar: a sports fan who hates Arizona men's basketball.

What the faculty need to understand is that they don't understand athletics departments, and that the alumni and boosters share the same interests as the employees. What the alumni need to understand is that they really don't often understand what the faculty do, and that they too, share the same interests as the faculty and all the employees. I mean, it's literally two message boards coming to the same conclusions about the same problem while having no idea about how they relate to each other.
That is very fascinating to read and I appreciate the insight. To me, it highlights just one more failing of the administration, starting with Robbins. The inability to show both sides that they really are on one side is sad.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:16 pm
by Longhorned
Yeah but divide and conquer is the ethos of ABOR.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm

It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional.
No offense, but . . . {insert offensive comment here}.

Unprofessional? Some of your comments in this thread invalidate much of what you have to say about any of this.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am
by zonagrad
ByJoveByJingle wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm

It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional.
No offense, but . . . {insert offensive comment here}.

Unprofessional? Some of your comments in this thread invalidate much of what you have to say about any of this.
No offense taken. But I'm not sure what you're alluding to. The accountant audited the UA and that was his area of expertise: accounting. He then proceeded to inject his own opinion on Sean Miller's recruiting and coaching acumen = not accounting. In a court of law, it would be tossed out and shutdown by a judge immediately.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:40 am
by Spaceman Spiff
ByJoveByJingle wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm

It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional.
No offense, but . . . {insert offensive comment here}.

Unprofessional? Some of your comments in this thread invalidate much of what you have to say about any of this.
Hey man, when I said Robbins's smile in the pic with Lloyd and Heeke gave off a creepy, molesterish vibe, maybe I meant that as a reference to A.R.S. 13-1410. I don't know what you're talking about with this unprofessional stuff, you don't know me.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:33 pm
by Longhorned
zonagrad wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am
ByJoveByJingle wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm

It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional.
No offense, but . . . {insert offensive comment here}.

Unprofessional? Some of your comments in this thread invalidate much of what you have to say about any of this.
No offense taken. But I'm not sure what you're alluding to.
I say this with the lightness of a feather, and just to answer your question. I'm guessing the allusion is to how some people are living the daily reality of an overtime fight to prepare U of A students for their lives and careers, while at the same time fighting for their needs and interests against the very same administration you hold in low regard just as they're trying to overcome how to do that during a global pandemic, and at an average salary that's lower than literally every other peer institution while taking the highest severe cut in the nation. All that is on top of the fact of a system that exploits the labor of non-tenure line employees doing this work for years on top of many more years of graduate study and licenses that positioned them at the top of their fields so that they could land that extremely competitive job at the U of A. And you wrote:

"A school president with real balls would tell a great number of the faculty -- those involved in majors that have zero market place value and could barely earn minimum wage if they weren't in academia-- to fuck off. And the University of Arizona has a large number of bottom feeders who don't realize how lucky they are to be getting paid to teach material that won't help students land a decent paying job."

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:03 pm
by zonagrad
Longhorned wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:33 pm
zonagrad wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am
ByJoveByJingle wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:47 pm
zonagrad wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm

It's like an expert witness called to evaluate an economic loss and then proceeds to inject his views on the punitive side of a case. It simply is unprofessional.
No offense, but . . . {insert offensive comment here}.

Unprofessional? Some of your comments in this thread invalidate much of what you have to say about any of this.
No offense taken. But I'm not sure what you're alluding to.
I say this with the lightness of a feather, and just to answer your question. I'm guessing the allusion is to how some people are living the daily reality of an overtime fight to prepare U of A students for their lives and careers, while at the same time fighting for their needs and interests against the very same administration you hold in low regard just as they're trying to overcome how to do that during a global pandemic, and at an average salary that's lower than literally every other peer institution while taking the highest severe cut in the nation. All that is on top of the fact of a system that exploits the labor of non-tenure line employees doing this work for years on top of many more years of graduate study and licenses that positioned them at the top of their fields so that they could land that extremely competitive job at the U of A. And you wrote:

"A school president with real balls would tell a great number of the faculty -- those involved in majors that have zero market place value and could barely earn minimum wage if they weren't in academia-- to fuck off. And the University of Arizona has a large number of bottom feeders who don't realize how lucky they are to be getting paid to teach material that won't help students land a decent paying job."
Fair enough. I wouldn't disagree with a large portion of your post. My opinion on the faculty at the UA is that a great many of the people who do the real teaching and the real work were subject to furloughs and layoffs while a significant portion is overpaid and skates by because they're tenured and don't like to be bothered with actual classroom teaching and prefer administrative meetings.
My fault for throwing a blanket statement at the entire faculty.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:27 pm
by Alieberman
My wife was asked to do more, couldn’t hire for open and much needed positions and also had to furlough 20% of her time... where she legally couldn’t work but didn’t stop certain VPs from demanding she did

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 2:52 pm
by Longhorned
If at any point you start to wonder about the merits of the plan behind firing Sean Miller without cause and then the unprecedented hiring a replacement with no head coaching experience, here's another new item to add to the pattern of decision making:

In another first among public universities, "UArizona" has now become the first institution to mandate a residency requirement for all employees, forcing staff members who work remotely to quit their jobs, without first thinking to ask about unintended consequences relating to the university's dependence on remote workers for its essential operations during the internet age. Yes, this will create chaos for Arizona Athletics as well. HR has already been forced to carry this out, with no policy in place to cite.

Such a visionary! Behold!

Image

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:03 pm
by TheCat
What? When the rest of the country is relaxing their work at home rules U of A does this? I work in Aerospace in California and many folks that can work at home have left California for someplace more affordable. It just makes sense and allows you to retain top talent. Glad to see we are totally out of step.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:11 pm
by Merkin
How does that work with IT and contractors? Cal Poly IT has contractors all over the US, and even India, work remotely and this was pre-pandemic.

You cannot AWS up from a legacy system without Amazon contractors.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:10 pm
by ASUHATER!
any business or workplace that has office workers that wants to get high end talent and be competitive in the modern workplace has to allow people that aren't local to work from home.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:09 pm
by Longhorned
It's already creating an enormous mess. Everyone is stressed out. Again, someone had a vision, doesn't respond to expertise, and none of this had to happen.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:35 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Longhorned wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 6:09 pm It's already creating an enormous mess. Everyone is stressed out. Again, someone had a vision, doesn't respond to expertise, and none of this had to happen.
I don't think you're phrasing this correctly.

I believe the preferred phrasing is that things were fine and functioning well, then the U of A president got involved.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 4:48 pm
by Postmaster
He’s on 1290 AM right now.
He keeps praising Scott and can’t pronounce “golf”.
Unless he is taking about the Lions’ quarterback.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 4:55 pm
by UAEebs86
I was at graduation last night in the stadium and he mispronounced so many words.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:34 pm
by TheCat
I think Bobby may have had a small stroke...... right before he ditched Miller.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:43 pm
by gronk4heisman
Postmaster wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 4:48 pm He’s on 1290 AM right now.
He keeps praising Scott and can’t pronounce “golf”.
Unless he is taking about the Lions’ quarterback.
Anyone who praises Larry Scott has truly lost their mind, or is in his pocket. Those deep pockets of unearned income.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:49 pm
by Postmaster
Multiple times. I know sometimes the “political” thing is to say something nice but he kept doing it.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:56 pm
by UAEebs86
Newportcat wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:46 am He needs his own thread and just not sure where it goes. I really do not know if people realize how lucky we are to have him as our president. I was fortunate to meet him and hear him speak and the guy is a total stud. Came across so well and someone who seemed like a natural leader. He actually took a pay cut to become the U of A president but felt it was his calling to become a president of a major university.

I hope we keep him a while. Clear he has Sean Miller's back too

When Miller addressed the crowd at McKale on Saturday, at the end he specifically called out Bobby (Who mind you has sat front row I think for every game even bringing guys like Khalil Tate and Colin Schooler to sit with him) for his support. Without Bobby Robbins support, Sean Miller is not our coach right now.

Sorry for the love fest just after the past two U of A presidents, its refreshing to have someone like Bobby leading our school. Short video on him below and see what he says are the goals of the U of A...last one I think we will all really like!

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/n ... university
This post aged well.


I'd like to thank Ricky Bobby Robbins for destroying my pride in my alma mater, both athletically and academically.

I'm ashamed to even wear my gear anymore.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:25 pm
by ASUHATER!
In Tucson it is fine, but I am almost ashamed to wear my Arizona stuff outside of town now.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:31 pm
by 84Cat
I stopped wearing my Arizona hat here in Boise. I just don't want anyone to ask me about the UA right now. Embarrassing all around. Let's hope our bb team is good

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:51 pm
by dovecanyoncat
He's done a bunch of bad things, but BoRo chased Greg away from game time cracking, and that's unforgivable. It's time for a public skullfucking just to get our mojo back.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:25 pm
by Chicat
Almost wore a UA hat to the store just now.

Not sure what would be more embarrassing at this point.

Someone saying, “Arizona State, huh?”

Or someone recognizing it as the University of Arizona…

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:34 pm
by Longhorned
Maybe our gear should just read "I bear no responsibility for the recent coaching hires at the University of Arizona" and leave it at that.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:34 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
I still wear my Arizona gear.

Everyone thinks it's a monogrammed hat though cause my last name starts with A.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:11 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Longhorned wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:34 pm Maybe our gear should just read "I bear no responsibility for the recent coaching hires at the University of Arizona" and leave it at that.
or

"UofA .... fish rots from the head"

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:18 pm
by UAEebs86
"I was a Wildcat fan, and then the President of UofA got involved."

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:08 pm
by DrWildcat
I still wear my UA gear. I don't think anyone cares or has any idea how bad Arizona is in football around here. I'm sure it is similar anywhere outside of the PAC12 footprint.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:03 am
by UAEebs86
Can we please get a Sean Miller / Robert Sarver hit piece on Robbins?

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:32 am
by Alieberman
Robbins cancelled classes and had staff leave campus yesterday for the smallest home crowd in 40+ years!!!!!

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:42 pm
by Chicat
I hope he shits himself in public.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:31 pm
by TheCat
He was on the field when that WA player was injured. Not sure he need a Thoracic Surgeon but okay.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:12 pm
by Longhorned
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:03 am Can we please get a Sean Miller / Robert Sarver hit piece on Robbins?
He'd be wholly shocked at some of the allegations, unsure how to prove that something DIDN'T happen.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 pm
by Postmaster
Does Sarver dislike Robbins?

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:58 pm
by Chicat

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:54 pm
by Merkin
Behind a paywall so can't read the article, but I thought Rulney was fired.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:59 pm
by wyo-cat
She was reassigned.

Still making 500 Large.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:34 pm
by UAEebs86
wyo-cat wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:59 pm She was reassigned.

Still making 500 Large.
He tried to make her the fall gal and I think she's got the receipts.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:15 pm
by Alieberman
wyo-cat wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:59 pm She was reassigned.

Still making 500 Large.
She did nothing wrong (except being a woman who was in position to take the fall for Bobby)

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:49 pm
by Postmaster
Do we know she did nothing wrong?

Serious question.

Re: President Bobby Robbins

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:57 pm
by Macho Grande
wyo-cat wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:59 pm She was reassigned.

Still making 500 Large.


Must be nice to suck at your job and still get paid a 500k salary just to hang around.