Let's Decide How This Site Will Run!

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:11 am

We have flown past 100 members in 24 hours. This is truly fantastic.

In the coming weeks, as this site gains a bit more functionality and features like Polls, I will be conducting a series of votes on protocol for determining moderators in the future, determining banning process, determining certain other necessities that will provide a foundation if ownage in this co-op forum.

Post you're ideas openly here. Any idea that's been seconded/thirded will be voted on next week.

As first order, we should decide what percentage of a vote is needed for what aspects of the board.

I believe these motions should pass with a 2/3rd majority, or 66%

Other motions:

I submit 60% (as discussed already by Olsondogg) for temporary bannings.

I submit 75% for a permanent ban or removal of moderator powers.

I submit 80% for approval of moderator positions that will be held every offseason.

I submit in cases where no moderator candidate reach 80% that Admin names moderator.

I submit in cases where the site needs an upgrade, a costly added feature, or we as fans need to contribute financially, that the costs of upgrade, of maintainance be shared with the board, a paypal account (or something like it) set up, so we as a community have the option to continue the vested interest, or not. I demand transparency. For it you'll get a vested investment.

Those are mine for now. I figure talk here for another few weeks, then once added members stabilizes and the poll feature is added, we can look to create a thread on here with rights, priveleges, & responsibilities.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:13 am

I actually thought I saw a poll feature.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:14 am

That would be great. I'm on my phone, so I just did a quick browsing and didn't see one.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:44 am

somehow we need to incorporate the name Phoenix, not in honor of Machina but because we, the members of goazcats have risen from the ashes.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:56 am

The Exiled GoAZCats Order of the Phoenix

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:59 am

I like the idea of Exile in the title - we were a community abandoned. Without our internet 'village.'

We need some clever branding and title for the site, then it's off to the races.

I say we go Abe Lincoln on everyone: "A community for AZ sports, by AZ sports fans" or something like that.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:04 am

Love it Wyo...

Maybe get BearDown into the title since that is what this community freaking did over the past week to 24 hours.

ShaggyBevo is classic and represents them well. Have to come up with something similar.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:07 am

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:27 am

Do we or don't we want this to be a site to take over Goazcats' previous role as being the public face the Cats fan base, where the media turn to for information, and where rival fans come? Does our community identity depend on our exile? These questions affects how we name the board. I think it's possible that down the road, we'll think of our community as transcending any one site, and this exile will be an important moment in our history, but doesn't define us entirely.

I think if we're going with a co-op model, it may be best to do a standard annual membership fee, and then be transparent with all members on the accounting. Don't allow some members to give more than others. And allow posters to view and post here without being members, for as long as they want to.

Does this make sense?

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:44 am

Longhorned wrote:Do we or don't we want this to be a site to take over Goazcats' previous role as being the public face the Cats fan base, where the media turn to for information, and where rival fans come? Does our community identity depend on our exile? These questions affects how we name the board. I think it's possible that down the road, we'll think of our community as transcending any one site, and this exile will be an important moment in our history, but doesn't define us entirely.

I think if we're going with a co-op model, it may be best to do a standard annual membership fee, and then be transparent with all members on the accounting. Don't allow some members to give more than others. And allow posters to view and post here without being members, for as long as they want to.

Does this make sense?

Yes. If you want to contribute, you may donate $25 a year.

Who amongst you wouldn't do that for a fan run, fan generated site where they have a say and say holds a sway?

It shouldn't be more than that. If even 20 of the 120+ members donate $25, that's $500 a year in upgrade and operating costs.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:48 am

wyo-cat wrote: We need some clever branding and title for the site, then it's off to the races.

I say we go Abe Lincoln on everyone: "A community for AZ sports, by AZ sports fans" or something like that.

I like wyo-cats suggestion. Something I'm playing around with:

WildCats Independent (or AZCats Independent, something to that tune)
A community for AZ sports, by AZ sports fans; Bear Down Red and Blue!

just a thought

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:50 am

How about: ExiledWildcatFansFuckStory.com?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:10 am

JMarkJohns wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Do we or don't we want this to be a site to take over Goazcats' previous role as being the public face the Cats fan base, where the media turn to for information, and where rival fans come? Does our community identity depend on our exile? These questions affects how we name the board. I think it's possible that down the road, we'll think of our community as transcending any one site, and this exile will be an important moment in our history, but doesn't define us entirely.

I think if we're going with a co-op model, it may be best to do a standard annual membership fee, and then be transparent with all members on the accounting. Don't allow some members to give more than others. And allow posters to view and post here without being members, for as long as they want to.

Does this make sense?
Yes. If you want to contribute, you may donate $25 a year.

Who amongst you wouldn't do that for a fan run, fan generated site where they have a say and say holds a sway?

It shouldn't be more than that. If even 20 of the 120+ members donate $25, that's $500 a year in upgrade and operating costs.

If it ends up being some kind of surplus situation, then we can just start getting us some sandwiches delivered and stuff.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:12 am

Careful now LH, that's how Storey initially got the basketball program in trouble at the Cactus Classic.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:12 am

JMarkJohns wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Do we or don't we want this to be a site to take over Goazcats' previous role as being the public face the Cats fan base, where the media turn to for information, and where rival fans come? Does our community identity depend on our exile? These questions affects how we name the board. I think it's possible that down the road, we'll think of our community as transcending any one site, and this exile will be an important moment in our history, but doesn't define us entirely.

I think if we're going with a co-op model, it may be best to do a standard annual membership fee, and then be transparent with all members on the accounting. Don't allow some members to give more than others. And allow posters to view and post here without being members, for as long as they want to.

Does this make sense?
Yes. If you want to contribute, you may donate $25 a year.

Who amongst you wouldn't do that for a fan run, fan generated site where they have a say and say holds a sway?

It shouldn't be more than that. If even 20 of the 120+ members donate $25, that's $500 a year in upgrade and operating costs.

Is there a Paypal site to donate to?

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:24 am

Not yet. It's something we should talk about next week.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:27 am

100 members would need to vote in the ban poll to make it valid.

Maybe a forum to provide links to UA related sports sites, and maybe to articles a site would like to link (or have a Nogales Jerry). Of course sites with a reputation for plagiarism should not be included. Since we are independent this might be doable.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:33 am

I don't know if it's been said, but there should be a decision 1 of 2 ways:

Either have the option to ignore EVERYONE, including regumodulators.

Or

No ability to ignore anyone.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:40 am

When I say % of vote, I mean of those who voted.

Each poll would be for 48 hours.

And I second Olsondogg, we should be able to ignore everyone, even mods.

Although, chances are, if people want to ignore a mod, chances are said mod could be voted out as mod.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:41 am

I disagree. Having the annual vote for moderators is a good way to keep them in check.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:42 am

JMarkJohns wrote:When I say % of vote, I mean of those who voted.

Each poll would be for 48 hours.

And I second Olsondogg, we should be able to ignore everyone, even mods.

Although, chances are, if people want to ignore a mod, chances are said mod could be voted out as mod.

That's why I like the option of a ban poll rather than ignore.

I would have much rather put it to a vote for people like HSP, than have to see countless threads started by him even though I "ignored".

I think it will keep the forum a better place than "ignoring" and "infractions" and the like. If people know that a simple majority over the course of 2 days could end their time here, than it would be more civil.

Post by **UAdevil** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:44 am

We'll do a number of polls and have some discussions next week regarding some of these issues. I second the motion that mods should be ignorable. I believe the system will allow that. I think that PHPbb will not allow putting admin on ignore though.

Bruins01 · Post by **Bruins01** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:51 am

I'd donate to help support.

But can I have my real handle back from the asshole sock?

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:57 am

I figure every offseason:

Phase 1: Poll - Should Current Mod Be Retained?
If yes vote wins, no other steps needed

Phase 2: Thread - Nominate 3 members for moderating this forum.
Top-3 vote getters are then moved forward

Phase 3: Poll - Election Vote for each mod.
Those who meet 80% criteria become mods. If no mod is elected, Admin names mod.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:16 pm

In determining the initial pool of mods to be voted in, I suggest starting with the mods from the old Goazcats. Unless there's any one of them that the current admins feel was in place due to poor administration at the old site.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:19 pm

Longhorned wrote:In determining the initial pool of mods to be voted in, I suggest starting with the mods from the old Goazcats. Unless there's any one of them that the current admins feel was in place due to poor administration at the old site.

Bruins01 · Post by **Bruins01** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:24 pm

Longhorned wrote:In determining the initial pool of mods to be voted in, I suggest starting with the mods from the old Goazcats. Unless there's any one of them that the current admins feel was in place due to poor administration at the old site.

I can think of a couple of those.

phenom5 · Post by **phenom5** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:27 pm

I think it should definitely take a significant amount to ban a poster. I'd rather create a site where it's harder rather than easier to ban.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:32 pm

"Beardown station.com", where real wildcats go to talk. Agreed, we need to get an official name, names for the forums (can we use the proud tradion and building the tradition?) and a place to donate (that is easy to use for us old timers).

Who knew being in at the ground level could be so much fun

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:36 pm

Is there a way to put people on ignore if we want? What does labeling someone a "foe" do

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:39 pm

too busy at work lately to contribute that much to the planning here but I will be a lot more free by the end of the month. so excited for the ideas we're coming up with. I will gladly contribute money here and would love to put my name in for any mod position. I would take it a lot more seriously here ahah.

Post by **UAdevil** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:27 pm

84Cat wrote:Is there a way to put people on ignore if we want? What does labeling someone a "foe" do

If you make someone a foe you will not see any of their posts.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:32 pm

UAdevil wrote:
84Cat wrote:Is there a way to put people on ignore if we want? What does labeling someone a "foe" do
If you make someone a foe you will not see any of their posts.

Okay, thanks! I am still getting the hang of this software.

CatzManiac · Post by **CatzManiac** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:33 pm

Why is "British English" the only option when you register?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:34 pm

84Cat wrote:
UAdevil wrote:
84Cat wrote:Is there a way to put people on ignore if we want? What does labeling someone a "foe" do
If you make someone a foe you will not see any of their posts.
Okay, thanks! I am still getting the hang of this software.

who ya ignoring already? haha

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:36 pm

CatzManiac wrote:Why is "British English" the only option when you register?

Bloody 'ell right it is.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:38 pm

merkin wrote:
CatzManiac wrote:Why is "British English" the only option when you register?
Bloody 'ell right it is.

If somebody changes this, I'm gone.

CatzManiac · Post by **CatzManiac** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:40 pm

Longhorned wrote:
merkin wrote:
CatzManiac wrote:Why is "British English" the only option when you register?
Bloody 'ell right it is.
If somebody changes this, I'm gone.

You are tempting me to start the first ever ban poll on this site.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:43 pm

Love that after 140 members and 1 day active and we are already determining how to ban and ignore people!

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:44 pm

who ya ignoring already? haha

No one yet but after the whole Machina thing, I don't want to be left to read everyone's bs.

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