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Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:38 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
With a really martyrish letter of resignation.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15150 ... operations" target="_blank

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:43 pm
by Alieberman
That's going to be a tough act to follow

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:44 pm
by Main Event
Not part of the process

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:50 pm
by 84Cat
Bryan Colangelo is taking over. Sounds like a good move for the sixers.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:53 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
There's really only so many years in a row you can be the worst team in the league before it's an issue.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:06 pm
by JMarkJohns
You can't trust a process you can't control.

All those years of being awful and no top picks.

Too many injured upside picks.

Too many big man picks.

No quality guard picks after MCW who is quintessential good player on bad team.

Such a shame.

Curious to see a Colangelo-run team. He always had a very traditional vision, though he did dabble with small ball, stretch fours and multiple ball-handlers.

Not sure how a Okafor or Noel fit in a Colangelo vision. Embiid and Saric, maybe. Going forward a Simmons or Ingram, definitely, Smith is handpicked, and McConnell is a solid PG with a good contract and solid enough upside. After that, who knows.

They do have a few assets.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:39 am
by Merkin
What does this mean for TJ?

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:50 am
by JMarkJohns
Merkin wrote:What does this mean for TJ?
Colangelo's love guards.

My guess is TJ is elsewhere next year, but I think he's proven his value to justify a role on another team.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:51 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Merkin wrote:What does this mean for TJ?
It probably isn't good, but may not be bad.

Hinkie was all about acquiring assets and not stressing actually winning. TJ would not have gotten the PT he did if it wasn't for that approach. If TJ is going to have a significant NBA career, it is as a bench guy.

Really, this hastens the transition for TJ into what his realistic long term role in the league is. He isn't a starter on a good team. Now that Philly may actually factor in winning, his role will be more of what it should have been from the beginning, which is a backup and high character guy.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:04 am
by JMarkJohns
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Merkin wrote:What does this mean for TJ?
It probably isn't good, but may not be bad.

Hinkie was all about acquiring assets and not stressing actually winning. TJ would not have gotten the PT he did if it wasn't for that approach. If TJ is going to have a significant NBA career, it is as a bench guy.

Really, this hastens the transition for TJ into what his realistic long term role in the league is. He isn't a starter on a good team. Now that Philly may actually factor in winning, his role will be more of what it should have been from the beginning, which is a backup and high character guy.
If he spends the offseason working on his spot up or pull-up perimeter shot, he'll have a 10 year career.

Other teams wanted to draft him in 2nd round and he told them thanks, but he was going to roll the dice with Philly. He's proven plenty with that opportunity. Improve a bit more, and he'll be a valued asset for a contending team as backup PG. Maybe not next year. But he's done enough to land another roster spot.

A team like Memphis makes a ton of sense. Toronto. San Antonio. He'll have options.

Re: Sam Hinkie steps down

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:04 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
JMarkJohns wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Merkin wrote:What does this mean for TJ?
It probably isn't good, but may not be bad.

Hinkie was all about acquiring assets and not stressing actually winning. TJ would not have gotten the PT he did if it wasn't for that approach. If TJ is going to have a significant NBA career, it is as a bench guy.

Really, this hastens the transition for TJ into what his realistic long term role in the league is. He isn't a starter on a good team. Now that Philly may actually factor in winning, his role will be more of what it should have been from the beginning, which is a backup and high character guy.
If he spends the offseason working on his spot up or pull-up perimeter shot, he'll have a 10 year career.

Other teams wanted to draft him in 2nd round and he told them thanks, but he was going to roll the dice with Philly. He's proven plenty with that opportunity. Improve a bit more, and he'll be a valued asset for a contending team as backup PG. Maybe not next year. But he's done enough to land another roster spot.

A team like Memphis makes a ton of sense. Toronto. San Antonio. He'll have options.
I agree with that a good bit. A backup PG role is one he could fill for a while with the right organization.

I think I've said this a few times before, but good organizations want 8-12 roster spots filled with high character, low maintenance types. That is TJ's role. I think he showed enough that he will draw interest on the market for that spot.

Also, you're dead on with the shooting. If he can be a consistent, solid shooter, the rest of it is already there.