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Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:36 pm
by UAdevil
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015 ... _quar.html



Admitting it's not going to be easy, a person familiar with the Eagles' offseason plans says the team "is going to try'' to move up in the NFL Draft to select Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota.

The Eagles have the 20th overall pick — and Mariota, who could go as high as No. 1, is not expected to fall out of the top five picks. The first day of the draft is April 30.

"From No. 20, it's certainly not going to be easy,'' said the person, who requested anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak on the subject. "It's probably going to take moving up twice to do it. There's going to be some wheeling and dealing involved.''

Asked if he thought it could happen, the response was telling.

"Can it happen?'' he asked. "I don't know. But they're going to try.''

Eagles head coach Chip Kelly recruited Mariota to Oregon and coached him for his first two years there. Kelly has not hidden his feelings about the quarterback, calling him the "most talented kid I coached in college," while reminding reporters he predicted Mariota would win the Heisman Trophy when he saw him as a freshman. (Mariota won the award in 2014.) Most recently, Kelly compared Mariota to future Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning.

Mariota was quoted as saying it would be fun to be with his old college coach again.

"Obviously, [with] my relationship with Coach Kelly, it'd be a lot of fun to be a part of that offense and be a part of that team," Mariota said.

With the recent shuffling of the Eagles' front office, Kelly now has the final say on personnel matters, answering only to owner Jeffrey Lurie, who writes the checks.

"That makes it a little easier,'' the person said. "There isn't anyone in (Kelly's) way.''

What it would take to move from No. 20 to the top five has been debated. One NFL personnel executive told NJ Advanced Media a month ago that he would ask for a No. 1 and a No. 2 this year, a No. 1 next year and running back LeSean McCoy.

Some have speculated it would take a package of at least three first-round picks and additional picks. Others have thrown out the idea of a "Mike Ditka'' deal in which the Eagles would send all of their 2015 picks to a team for the chance to land Mariota, much like the former New Orleans Saints head coach did in 1999 in order to select Texas running back Ricky Williams.

Teams making bold moves to acquire a certain player have seen it backfire on them, however. The Saints failed to win after the historic trade and it cost Ditka his job. But the Redskins, who acquired the picks, struggled, too. They won the NFC East in 1999, then missed the playoffs the next five seasons.

The Redskins also were involved in another draft mega-deal when they traded up with the St. Louis Rams to select quarterback Robert Griffin III. In addition to swapping picks with the Rams, the Redskins traded away two first-round picks and a second-round selection.

The Redskins won the NFC East with a healthy RGIII in his rookie year, but injuries and Griffin's regression have made the deal look bad since. Despite stocking up on draft picks, the Rams have had three straight losing seasons.

In 2004, the Giants traded for quarterback Eli Manning and won two Super Bowls.

In 1983, Denver gave up a mix of picks and players to obtain the rights to quarterback John Elway and that worked out pretty well for the Broncos, who appeared in five Super Bowls with Elway at quarterback, winning two.

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Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:55 pm
by azgreg
They'd have to give up all their draft picks.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:09 pm
by JMarkJohns
Foles/1st/2nd/1st?

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:15 am
by PieceOfMeat
JMarkJohns wrote:Foles/1st/2nd/1st?
send that to the Bears, and the Bears can send chip the #7 pick and cutler.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:49 am
by JMarkJohns
PieceOfMeat wrote:
JMarkJohns wrote:Foles/1st/2nd/1st?
send that to the Bears, and the Bears can send chip the #7 pick and cutler.
I doubt that's high enough, but maybe the Redskins? Not even sure that's high enough with Tennessee sitting at #2.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:02 am
by Alieberman
If Chip wants Mariota so badly, his best bet is getting himself traded to Tennessee

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:11 am
by JMarkJohns
I've heard some rumblings Chip wants out of Philly, so, that might not be too far fetched.

After Tampa Bay, it's not a guarantee Mariota is picked until 5/6/7.

Tennessee has Locker and Mettenberger. And Whisenhunt is fool enough to think his system can maximize them.

Jacksonville has Bortles

Oakland has Carr

Washington/New York/Chicago all make sense, none more so than Jets, if available, they net a quality NFL starter who is young, and multiple early picks to add skill on the edges, in the backfield this year, and gain additional 1st next to add to defense. It would be great for Foles, because the Jets O-line looked pretty strong last year.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:19 pm
by PieceOfMeat
JMarkJohns wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
JMarkJohns wrote:Foles/1st/2nd/1st?
send that to the Bears, and the Bears can send chip the #7 pick and cutler.
I doubt that's high enough, but maybe the Redskins? Not even sure that's high enough with Tennessee sitting at #2.
Well maybe he could take cutler and send him to a 3rd team and move up farther?

Hey, i'm grasping at straws here, my team is stuck with jay cutler!

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:28 pm
by Reydituto
This has bad idea written all over it, and will surely cut short Chip's stay in the NFL. A bit naive of him to think he could get the band back together and that doing so would succeed.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:11 pm
by azgreg
What was that huge trade years ago? Was it between the Cowboys and the Vikings? Or did it include the Saints? Hershel Walker comes to mind.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:22 pm
by UAEebs86
azgreg wrote:What was that huge trade years ago? Was it between the Cowboys and the Vikings? Or did it include the Saints? Hershel Walker comes to mind.

Vikings got Walker from Cowboys, Cowboys fleeced them for tons of picks and players.

Ditka and the Saints traded all their picks one year to get Ricky Williams.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:31 pm
by azgreg
UAEebs86 wrote:
azgreg wrote:What was that huge trade years ago? Was it between the Cowboys and the Vikings? Or did it include the Saints? Hershel Walker comes to mind.

Vikings got Walker from Cowboys, Cowboys fleeced them for tons of picks and players.

Ditka and the Saints traded all their picks one year to get Ricky Williams.
Thanks. These deals always seem to work out better for the teams getting all the picks.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:25 pm
by Macho Grande
Reydituto wrote:This has bad idea written all over it, and will surely cut short Chip's stay in the NFL. A bit naive of him to think he could get the band back together and that doing so would succeed.

I wouldn't bet against him at this point. Two years ago, everyone said he would fail miserably in the NFL and be back to coaching college after a year or two. All he has done so far is prove everyone wrong. He took over a team that went 4-12 the previous season, and coached them to back-to-back 10 win seasons with a division championship mixed in. Don't know if he plans on "getting the band back together" or not, but whatever he's doing there seems to be working.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:07 pm
by Merkin
azgreg wrote: Thanks. These deals always seem to work out better for the teams getting all the picks.
I certainly wouldn't take all the picks in one draft like they did. You will get twice as many rookies, which most of them won't stick anyway.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:37 pm
by UAEebs86
Several teams, including St. Louis Rams, are ready to make a deal for Eagles' Nick Foles

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015 ... l_coa.html


The Eagles apparent indecision on what to do with quarterback Nick Foles has intrigued teams around the league, and possible suitors are beginning to emerge.

According to a person familiar with the situation, but who requested anonymity, the St. Louis Rams have interest in Foles should the Eagles decide to trade him this offseason.

Foles' possible availability was a topic of conversation among coaches and scouts last week at the Senior Bowl, with the Tennessee Titans and Houston Texans also mentioned as teams that would have interest if Foles hit the market.

It is unclear if the Eagles are willing to move Foles. Their plans to explore options surrounding Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota — as reported by NJ Advance Media — in the NFL draft certainly indicate a weakened commitment to Foles.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:40 pm
by JMarkJohns
Jets would be wise to give up their 2nd for Foles. It's an early 2nd, so it's a good pick, and that might go a long ways to enable a 1st/2nd/3rd/1st for Mariota swap while still enabling Philly to add quality players in late 2nd/4th.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:53 pm
by CalStateTempe
#FreeNick.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:33 pm
by Daryl Zero
Reydituto wrote:This has bad idea written all over it, and will surely cut short Chip's stay in the NFL. A bit naive of him to think he could get the band back together and that doing so would succeed.
Exactly what I think.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:27 am
by Chicat
So the Eagles gut their entire offense and re-sign Sanchez to a 2 year deal that has a guaranteed $5million and the possibility of earning up to $16million.

I'm thinking they are going to draft Mariotta by trading Foles and picks to move up.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:31 am
by azgreg
If I was a GM I'd take Foles and a couple of 1's for Mariota.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:06 pm
by JMarkJohns
azgreg wrote:If I was a GM I'd take Foles and a couple of 1's for Mariota.
I'm really hoping this is the Jets plan.

Foles/2015 1st/2015 2nd/2016 1st

Get a true QB, then use 1st and 2 2nds to protect/help him stay upright on OL and RB.

Decker and Marshall is a solid corps, then use late rounder this year on a burner, and use a high pick next year on elite WR.

Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:43 pm
by Katzenfreund
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Re: Chip really wants Mariota

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:53 pm
by Merkin
Wow.