UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:52 pm

UCLA should hang a recruiting banner at Pauley for all 3,000 people to see

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:58 pm

You know its getting bad when UCLA fans can only say "well we beat you out for one player!"

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:02 pm

Almost as sad as feeling obligated to comment publicly about your annoyance of said player flipping to another program.

Sometimes I feel like Chi says things just to see Hater parrot them.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:11 pm

Awww. What annoyance? Like I said. We're better off with LM. Not sure how that's annoyance. After so many years when will you actually acknowledge you're just a troll mrbug?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:18 pm

Hater is Sean Miller?

Yikes!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:18 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Sometimes I feel like Chi says things just to see Hater parrot them.

Should I lamely attempt to troll a rival fansite instead?

Heh

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:36 pm

I'd like to think that if I trolled a site, I'd put on black facepaint and treat it as my super bowl.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:54 pm

Bug getting roughed up pretty good in this thread. Keep it comin guys.

Heh

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:52 pm

Land Jackson and McCoy the following year and nobodies trippin

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:32 pm

I love it when the UCLA fans try to justify their lame attendance on 'but we have so many options for sports,etc.'. Either you are a Pac12 fan or not, so you have basically USC or UCLA to attend in a city of how many millions vs a small Tucson of around a half million?

Not to mention the storied tradition of UCLA....there is no valid excuse IMHO for the other flagship of the Pac12 to have such a pathetic attendance record. CSM alluding to this, in a polite way, is just a way of complimenting the loyal UA fanbase.

BTFD.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:41 am

LOL that's just a Los Angeles thing. Remember when Pete Carrol first took over at USC and the Coliseum was half empty most games? They were in the 40s and 50s for most of nearly two seasons, a lot of it consisting of games when Leinhart and Bush and co. were actually winning games, until they became the fad in LA. Rams and Raiders had attendance problems and bounced. Dodgers average attendance will vary 10,000 fans or more a game per season, depending on how they are doing and 35,000 fans is really only 18,000 fans from innings 1-2 and 8-9. I'm not sure of current ticket prices, but I remember my dad giving a scalper a $20 bill for two tickets, pretty damn good seats too, to a Raiders game in the early 90s. In the same era, a dad and his son could sit in the pavilion and watch the Dodgers for under $10 at the gate.

Basically, you have the second biggest market in the country that will sell the shit out of games if a team is premier or they are the "it" team in town at the time, but be way short if they aren't premier.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:46 am

Who even is the premier or it team in town now? Isn't USC football or basketball. Isn't UCLA football or basketball. Isn't the Lakers. Is it the dodgers or clippers?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:48 am

Dodgers. Kings are doing well too and everyone is on that bandwagon as well.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:49 pm

Unfortunately prices don't fluctuate with team performances

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:59 pm

Actually they do. second hand market prices for Arizona basketball games are way higher than they were five to eight years ago when we were transitioning and had our interim coaches. You could get upper deck tickets to crappy non-conference games for less than $20 7 years ago. now the cheapest you can get are $40 to $50 for games against Bradley and northwestern state.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:38 pm

Wow, look at all those empty seats. 2 LA schools playing each other. Must be heavy traffic tonight.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:43 pm

What the hell has happened to UCLA BBall. No one shows. SM speaks the truth. Sad, sad, sad. Storied program forgotten by its fans

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:48 pm

Bad when you can hear individual people talking and clapping in the crowd.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:53 pm

Could you EVER imagine that in Tucson. No f-ing way

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:13 pm

azcat49 wrote:Could you EVER imagine that in Tucson. No f-ing way

Well, some of us are old enough to remember Ben Lindsey...

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:49 am

http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_basket ... rejects-it" target="_blank

more in the link but...

But at that point, Alford decided to take a detour by responding indirectly to Sean Miller's question:

"Today somebody was asking me...why come to UCLA? ... When you're in the second largest market in the country, and you're in an academic institution that is top-10 in the world, the most applied to university in the world, those are special things. Then you add our tradition here of 112 national titles--most in the country--11 in basketball--most in basketball. You almost have to find a reason why not to come here. It's a culture of excellence..."

But Alford wasn't finished with his recruiting pitch. Although Alford has been at UCLA for over two years now, he apparently wants to be sure that everyone knows that he's not Ben Howland (emphasis added):

"Now that we've been here two years, I think now these young players are seeing how we let them play. We don't handcuff them, we don't micromanage, we give them the freedom to play through the teaching and fundamentals of what we're trying to do."

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:53 am

What a clown.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:05 am

"Now that we've been here two years, I think now these young players are seeing how we let them play. We don't handcuff them, we don't micromanage, we give them the freedom to play through the teaching and fundamentals of what we're trying to do."

As the author pointed out, that seems to be a shot at Howland. Which is weird since, you know . . . three Final Fours versus . . . how many for Alford?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:17 am

UCLA is not a top 10 university in the world. Not even top 25 in America.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:29 am

hyperbole, yes, but ucla is an elite academic institution. that doesn't make alford bright by association, though.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:30 am

ASUHATER! wrote:UCLA is not a top 10 university in the world. Not even top 25 in America.

This is what happens when you start posting on your own and not parrot someone else's thoughts

pokinmik · Post by **pokinmik** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:40 am

UCLA is tied with Carnegie Mellon and USC at #23 in the country according to the US News university rankings 2015-16.

But yea as far as major college basketball is concerned I'd still rather have McKale for recruiting purposes!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:43 am

Ucla is top 10 in a few global rankings for academics

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:46 am

UCLA is a great school.

Steve Alford is not a great coach . . .

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:47 am

Chicat wrote:UCLA is a great school.

Steve Alford is not a great coach . . .

yeah so I don't know what the 2 have to do with each other....other than that is just your standard turd of a ucla fan's answer to why they can't get people to watch their team play.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:49 am

Chicat wrote:UCLA is a great school.

Steve Alford is not a great coach . . .

Agreed

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:53 am

MrBug708 wrote:Ucla is top 10 in a few global rankings for academics

Top 100 school easily. Nowhere near top 10

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:01 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Ucla is top 10 in a few global rankings for academics
Top 100 school easily. Nowhere near top 10

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla- ... iversities" target="_blank

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/wo ... /length/25" target="_blank

To add to your "nowhere near top 10" comment

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/acade ... s-globally" target="_blank

Simple Google search would have avoided this

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:04 pm

Sorry. UCLA is not a top 10 worldwide school. Not even remotely debatable. I'd take top 40-50. But not top 10. People don't say "Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Oxford... And UCLA"

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:08 pm

Who can argue with Hater's list of top universities in the world...lol

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:42 pm

Lol heh lawlz lmao rofl

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:13 pm

Reading a debate on the attendance issue the conference faces, I came upon this nugget...

Sean Miller is right. One of the appeals of college sports and hoops in general is the atmosphere, the intensity, the fun. When you go to a UCLA game, for instance, and the place isn’t even half full and the student section is spending more time making balloon animals than cheering for the game, and when the rest of the fans don’t bother to get on their feet between tip-off and leave-early-to-beat-traffic time… that does not make for a great atmosphere. That type of thing can quickly devolve into a negative feedback loop. And all other things being equal, in the hyper-competitive environment of high-level recruiting, a sleepy in-arena atmosphere could make a difference. Alford has had no problems bringing in good recruiting classes thus far, but maybe the lack of buzz around that program has led a recruit or two to another campus.

http://rushthecourt.net/2015/11/20/pac- ... GEZWI.dpuf" target="_blank

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:17 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Sorry. UCLA is not a top 10 worldwide school. Not even remotely debatable. I'd take top 40-50. But not top 10. People don't say "Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Oxford... And UCLA"

UCLA is a top school, and even moreso if you look at solely public universities. Hate on their athletics all you want, but educationally speaking they are top notch.

Or in other words, don't be such a fucking stupid asshole.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:33 pm

When did I say that UCLA isn't a great school? I said they are probably a top 40-50 school in the world. They just aren't a top 10 school and it's just another dumb thing said by Alford

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:35 pm

Because you got shown it was a top 10 school in the very next post. Again, just stop. You are looking more and more stupid by the post.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:38 pm

Guys Guys Guys . . . can we focus on what's important here?

BALLOON ANIMALS!

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:41 pm

Chicat wrote:Guys Guys Guys . . . can we focus on what's important here?

BALLOON ANIMALS!

I flipped between the uCla game (traffic) and the Furd game last night. It's debatable which was more pathetic.

I don't get it really. They can rag on Tucson all they want...but I don't know a UA grad that doesn't hold it in a special place in their heart...and being apart of an experience at McKale adds to that.

I distinctly remember making the trip to Pauley in the mid 90's when both programs were rocking. It was great, like a real rivalry. All the games were attended by my buddy who went there. I don't know how traffic for the students and everyone else became so much worse over the course of a few decades.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:57 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Because you got shown it was a top 10 school in the very next post. Again, just stop. You are looking more and more stupid by the post.

Whatever you say. Not top 10 BTW
http://www.topuniversities.com/universi ... se+search=" target="_blank

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:03 pm

What's with people defending an idiotic statement by alford and trolls by mrbug anyway?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:22 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:What's with people defending an idiotic statement by alford and trolls by mrbug anyway?

RC97 will likely come to your rescue

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:30 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
Chicat wrote:Guys Guys Guys . . . can we focus on what's important here?

BALLOON ANIMALS!
I flipped between the uCla game (traffic) and the Furd game last night. It's debatable which was more pathetic.

I don't get it really. They can rag on Tucson all they want...but I don't know a UA grad that doesn't hold it in a special place in their heart...and being apart of an experience at McKale adds to that.

I distinctly remember making the trip to Pauley in the mid 90's when both programs were rocking. It was great, like a real rivalry. All the games were attended by my buddy who went there. I don't know how traffic for the students and everyone else became so much worse over the course of a few decades.

Maybe we've got this whole traffic thing backward. Could it be that UCLA fans, being environmentally and socially conscious don't want to produce MORE traffic congestion and pollution and that's why they stay away from the games? Maybe their fandom is so strong, they're collective driving to Pauley would put so much carbon into the air that global warming would actually start accelerating even faster, and therefore, for the good of LA, California, the United States of America, the Earth, and all mankind, they stay away from Pauley in droves and do everyone who yearns to breath free a total solid.

Thank you Bruins Nation for thinking of others over yourselves....

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:32 pm

Bug, everyone on this board agrees you're a troll. You've been trolling an Arizona message board in two iterations for like a decade. THAT is rock bottom.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:36 pm

MrBug708 wrote:

My company bought that company (Wall).

No word on whether that saucy fraulein came with it.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:45 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Bug, everyone on this board agrees you're a troll. You've been trolling an Arizona message board in two iterations for like a decade. THAT is rock bottom.

Well, you, RC97, and T-Bag at least. Last time someone was whining so much about me, they started a ban poll, had a meltdown, and disappeared. Let's be honest though, you'd probably give up halfway through like you do with your Cats

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:00 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Bug, everyone on this board agrees you're a troll. You've been trolling an Arizona message board in two iterations for like a decade. THAT is rock bottom.
Well, you, RC97, and T-Bag at least. Last time someone was whining so much about me, they started a ban poll, had a meltdown, and disappeared. Let's be honest though, you'd probably give up halfway through like you do with your Cats

Hey at least I show up, unlike UCLA fans!

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