UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:44 am

Alford about to lose another one today. Duane Washington expected to pick OSU over the Bruins. Good move, kid.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:40 am

Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:32 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes

I'm only responding to this - repeat, not as a troll or flame - but Adidas & TJ Leaf for example; does it go that far? I have literally zero knowledge & am guessing but I am curious how the main target of the FBI seems to be Adidas & money they shipped - so far to all or mostly Nike school assistant coaches.

I can't wrap my head around this & I've been reading about it nonstop for 5 hours now.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:24 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes

Dare to dream Bug....

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:54 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes

I have hesitated to be too strident on this because Book got nailed, and it certainly looks like for good reason. I don't want it to be like I'm trying to make excuses.

That said, as dirty a business as recruiting is, when you look at things like UCLA's surge in taking Compton Magic prospects from Arizona, I can't believe there aren't reasons.

The difference, I can see a company wanting to throw money at a Jaylen Hands or Jahvon Quinerly to go to a UCLA or Arizona. The schools that are cleaner are schools like Oregon State. No one wants to throw money at a 2 star to go to OSU.

Past that, like I posted in the Louisville thread, I doubt there is any recruiting power that is 100% clean. It's a slimy business.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:01 am

I certainly won't say UCLA is clean but David Grace has pretty deep ties to the Magic and I'm sure Did as is still taking care of that program. I vet Howland hiring McCray, and the recruitment of that who class of Anderson and Bazz and probably Kevon Looney are the biggest issues ucla will have to face.

Ironically enough, the Ball family is probably clean in all of this. Lavar probably gamed the system in other ways

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:03 am

MrBug708 wrote:I certainly won't say UCLA is clean but David Grace has pretty deep ties to the Magic and I'm sure Did as is still taking care of that program. I vet Howland hiring McCray, and the recruitment of that who class of Anderson and Bazz and probably Kevon Looney are the biggest issues ucla will have to face.

Ironically enough, the Ball family is probably clean in all of this. Lavar probably gamed the system in other ways

How does one get deep ties to an AAU program?

It's a rhetorical question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:07 am

He was an assistant coach with them before? When jerryd bayless was a cpmpton magic, grace coached him on the Arizona affiliate

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:35 am

MrBug708 wrote:He was an assistant coach with them before? When jerryd bayless was a cpmpton magic, grace coached him on the Arizona affiliate

I'm saying in today's world, deep ties to an AAU program means you have deep ties to shady stuff.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:42 am

UCLA is the only clean program. All others are dirty.

This is Bugger's thesis.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:46 am

Beachcat97 wrote:UCLA is the only clean program. All others are dirty.

This is Bugger's thesis.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:46 am

Jay Williams just called out Kevin Love, which is pretty funny considering the history

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:57 am

MrBug708 wrote:Jay Williams just called out Kevin Love, which is pretty funny considering the history

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:31 am

8 year old story. Jay Williams almost committed suicide after he couldn't land Love.

https://m.indyweek.com/sports/archives/ ... ahoo-story" target="_blank

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:14 am

Bug is working hard on the board this week trying to defend the pure honor of his alma mater.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:41 am

scumdevils86 wrote:Bug is working hard on the board this week trying to defend the pure honor of his alma mater.

I read that as "Evidence be damned, I'm going to go after Bug because he needs to be miserable too?"

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:43 am

Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:45 am

Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.

Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:55 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.

It's not hard to link what I've said here, but we know how valuable your word is here.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:57 am

I did it for you. Feel free to spot the ones that really chap your ass

http://www.beardownwildcats.com/search. ... 2&sr=posts" target="_blank

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:00 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads..

Clearly you didn't either.

Dipshit.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:05 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.

You're weird, BC.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:57 am

UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:18 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:30 am

But why?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:42 am

The word is DG doesn't want to make another hire before retirement. Bureaucracy at its finest

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:47 am

Chicat wrote:But why?

Steve Alford has UCLA at their ceiling. No need to cut ties.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:52 am

While we know his word means shit, but I will admit, 4 days of no response was more than I expected from RC97

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:49 am

MrBug708 wrote:UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...

And didn't they have that kinda weird dance where Alford gave back one contract year last year?

The one thing I'll say is things might change (a bit? a lot?) now that Bryce doesn't need to be shoehorned into the lineup.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:52 am

SCCats wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...
And didn't they have that kinda weird dance where Alford gave back one contract year last year?

The one thing I'll say is things might change (a bit? a lot?) now that Bryce doesn't need to be shoehorned into the lineup.

Yup, but it was only get get his assistants raises, not necessarily because he felt he did a poor job

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:56 pm

Jules Bernard commits to the Bruins

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:34 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Guy no one's heard of commits to the Bruins

Fixed it.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:40 pm

MrBug708 wrote:While we know his word means shit, but I will admit, 4 days of no response was more than I expected from RC97

..

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:32 pm

Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:36 pm

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:37 pm

Thats not a good place to get arrested in.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:42 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china

Who said anything about weed?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:43 pm

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:46 pm

Jefe wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china

Who said anything about weed?

Rumors were originally weed.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:46 pm

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:47 pm

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:04 pm

One source told ESPN that nearly 20 police officers came into the Hyatt Hangzhou at approximately 8 a.m. local time Tuesday and spoke to multiple players from both Georgia Tech and UCLA. The players, according to the source, were kept in a room for hours and not allowed to speak to any of the coaches.

"During the questioning, it was determined that Georgia Tech student-athletes were not involved in the activities being investigated," Georgia Tech said in the statement. "They have resumed their scheduled activities in advance of Saturday's season opener versus UCLA in Shanghai."

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-charges" target="_blank

Its also currently 5am their time so will be awhile before any other news.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:27 pm

Coincidentally enough Trump is flying into China tomorrow.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:28 pm

First time in the history of the universe that Lavar Ball has been unavailable for comment.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:57 pm

Anyone check with Russ Smith on his thoughts on this? Maybe he can provide some expert legal insight into this...?

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:06 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:13 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:Thats not a good place to get arrested in.

I'm not an expert in Chinese law, but I would assume there's probably a significantly different idea of due process than California.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:16 pm

Zero wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA

agreed.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:17 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:Thats not a good place to get arrested in.
I'm not an expert in Chinese law, but I would assume there's probably a significantly different idea of due process than California.

"I wouldn't smoke marijuana in California - you can get a ticket for that."

-Steve Martin

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:18 pm

Statfreak77 wrote:Anyone check with Russ Smith on his thoughts on this? Maybe he can provide some expert legal insight into this...?

Cannot wait!

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