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Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:44 am
by Beachcat97
Alford about to lose another one today. Duane Washington expected to pick OSU over the Bruins. Good move, kid.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:40 am
by MrBug708
Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:32 pm
by Bear Down Vegas
MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes
I'm only responding to this - repeat, not as a troll or flame - but Adidas & TJ Leaf for example; does it go that far? I have literally zero knowledge & am guessing but I am curious how the main target of the FBI seems to be Adidas & money they shipped - so far to all or mostly Nike school assistant coaches.

I can't wrap my head around this & I've been reading about it nonstop for 5 hours now.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:24 pm
by Chicat
MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes
:lol:

Dare to dream Bug....

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:54 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
MrBug708 wrote:Worst case scenario - Book was the lone gunman

Ok scenario - Arizona hit with sanctions

Best case scenario- Alford just involved enough that the buyout is voided and we move on from him

Perfect scenario - guerrero goes
I have hesitated to be too strident on this because Book got nailed, and it certainly looks like for good reason. I don't want it to be like I'm trying to make excuses.

That said, as dirty a business as recruiting is, when you look at things like UCLA's surge in taking Compton Magic prospects from Arizona, I can't believe there aren't reasons.

The difference, I can see a company wanting to throw money at a Jaylen Hands or Jahvon Quinerly to go to a UCLA or Arizona. The schools that are cleaner are schools like Oregon State. No one wants to throw money at a 2 star to go to OSU.

Past that, like I posted in the Louisville thread, I doubt there is any recruiting power that is 100% clean. It's a slimy business.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:01 am
by MrBug708
I certainly won't say UCLA is clean but David Grace has pretty deep ties to the Magic and I'm sure Did as is still taking care of that program. I vet Howland hiring McCray, and the recruitment of that who class of Anderson and Bazz and probably Kevon Looney are the biggest issues ucla will have to face.

Ironically enough, the Ball family is probably clean in all of this. Lavar probably gamed the system in other ways

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:03 am
by Spaceman Spiff
MrBug708 wrote:I certainly won't say UCLA is clean but David Grace has pretty deep ties to the Magic and I'm sure Did as is still taking care of that program. I vet Howland hiring McCray, and the recruitment of that who class of Anderson and Bazz and probably Kevon Looney are the biggest issues ucla will have to face.

Ironically enough, the Ball family is probably clean in all of this. Lavar probably gamed the system in other ways
How does one get deep ties to an AAU program?

It's a rhetorical question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:07 am
by MrBug708
He was an assistant coach with them before? When jerryd bayless was a cpmpton magic, grace coached him on the Arizona affiliate

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:35 am
by Spaceman Spiff
MrBug708 wrote:He was an assistant coach with them before? When jerryd bayless was a cpmpton magic, grace coached him on the Arizona affiliate
I'm saying in today's world, deep ties to an AAU program means you have deep ties to shady stuff.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:42 am
by Beachcat97
UCLA is the only clean program. All others are dirty.

This is Bugger's thesis.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:46 am
by MrBug708
Beachcat97 wrote:UCLA is the only clean program. All others are dirty.

This is Bugger's thesis.
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Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:46 am
by MrBug708
Jay Williams just called out Kevin Love, which is pretty funny considering the history

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:57 am
by Merkin
MrBug708 wrote:Jay Williams just called out Kevin Love, which is pretty funny considering the history

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:31 am
by MrBug708
8 year old story. Jay Williams almost committed suicide after he couldn't land Love.

https://m.indyweek.com/sports/archives/ ... ahoo-story" target="_blank

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:14 am
by scumdevils86
Bug is working hard on the board this week trying to defend the pure honor of his alma mater.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:41 am
by MrBug708
scumdevils86 wrote:Bug is working hard on the board this week trying to defend the pure honor of his alma mater.
I read that as "Evidence be damned, I'm going to go after Bug because he needs to be miserable too?"

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:43 am
by Olsondogg
Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:45 am
by Beachcat97
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:55 am
by MrBug708
Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.
It's not hard to link what I've said here, but we know how valuable your word is here.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:57 am
by MrBug708
I did it for you. Feel free to spot the ones that really chap your ass

http://www.beardownwildcats.com/search. ... 2&sr=posts" target="_blank

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:00 pm
by MrBug708
Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads..
Clearly you didn't either. :roll:

Dipshit.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:05 pm
by Puerco
Beachcat97 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Dude, Bug is not doing anything except pointing out that some shit is old news.
Clearly, you haven't seen the crap he's been saying in the other threads.

After a long period of inactivity, while his favorite team flounders, here comes ole Buggy, just in time to dance on our broken hearts. True to form.
You're weird, BC.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:57 am
by MrBug708
UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:18 am
by azgreg

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:30 am
by Chicat
But why?

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:42 am
by MrBug708
The word is DG doesn't want to make another hire before retirement. Bureaucracy at its finest

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:47 am
by Beachcat97
Chicat wrote:But why?
Steve Alford has UCLA at their ceiling. No need to cut ties.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:52 am
by MrBug708
While we know his word means shit, but I will admit, 4 days of no response was more than I expected from RC97

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:49 am
by SCCats
MrBug708 wrote:UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...
And didn't they have that kinda weird dance where Alford gave back one contract year last year?

The one thing I'll say is things might change (a bit? a lot?) now that Bryce doesn't need to be shoehorned into the lineup.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:52 am
by MrBug708
SCCats wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:UCLA just gave Steve Alford an extension of one year...
And didn't they have that kinda weird dance where Alford gave back one contract year last year?

The one thing I'll say is things might change (a bit? a lot?) now that Bryce doesn't need to be shoehorned into the lineup.
Yup, but it was only get get his assistants raises, not necessarily because he felt he did a poor job

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:56 pm
by MrBug708
Jules Bernard commits to the Bruins

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:34 pm
by Beachcat97
MrBug708 wrote:Guy no one's heard of commits to the Bruins
Fixed it.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:40 pm
by MrBug708
MrBug708 wrote:While we know his word means shit, but I will admit, 4 days of no response was more than I expected from RC97
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Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:32 pm
by UofAlum05
Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:36 pm
by NYCat

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:37 pm
by Gilbertcat
Thats not a good place to get arrested in.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:42 pm
by Jefe
UofAlum05 wrote:Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china
Who said anything about weed?

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:43 pm
by Merkin

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:46 pm
by UofAlum05
Jefe wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:Here are some recent headlines involving Tourists bringing and smoking weed in china
Who said anything about weed?
Rumors were originally weed.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:46 pm
by UofAlum05

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:47 pm
by NYCat

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:04 pm
by Gilbertcat
One source told ESPN that nearly 20 police officers came into the Hyatt Hangzhou at approximately 8 a.m. local time Tuesday and spoke to multiple players from both Georgia Tech and UCLA. The players, according to the source, were kept in a room for hours and not allowed to speak to any of the coaches.

"During the questioning, it was determined that Georgia Tech student-athletes were not involved in the activities being investigated," Georgia Tech said in the statement. "They have resumed their scheduled activities in advance of Saturday's season opener versus UCLA in Shanghai."
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-charges" target="_blank

Its also currently 5am their time so will be awhile before any other news.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:27 pm
by UofAlum05
Coincidentally enough Trump is flying into China tomorrow.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:28 pm
by KaibabKat
First time in the history of the universe that Lavar Ball has been unavailable for comment.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:57 pm
by Statfreak77
Anyone check with Russ Smith on his thoughts on this? Maybe he can provide some expert legal insight into this...?

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:06 pm
by Zero
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:13 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Gilbertcat wrote:Thats not a good place to get arrested in.
I'm not an expert in Chinese law, but I would assume there's probably a significantly different idea of due process than California.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:16 pm
by scumdevils86
Zero wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA
agreed.

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:17 pm
by UAEebs86
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:Thats not a good place to get arrested in.
I'm not an expert in Chinese law, but I would assume there's probably a significantly different idea of due process than California.

"I wouldn't smoke marijuana in California - you can get a ticket for that."

-Steve Martin

Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:18 pm
by Chicat
Statfreak77 wrote:Anyone check with Russ Smith on his thoughts on this? Maybe he can provide some expert legal insight into this...?
Cannot wait!