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Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:26 pm
by UAdevil
Woah

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:26 pm
by dirtbags
holy good gravy!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:26 pm
by UAEebs86
Wow

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:27 pm
by Catintheheat
84Cat wrote:Wha???
The shot was a prayer

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by WildcatStunner
OMG

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by UAEebs86
Yes!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by Catintheheat
Wow!!!!

What a set play. Genius!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by NYCat
Wut

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Good lord. WHAT A GAME!!!!!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 pm
by SCCats
Holy shit...what an ending

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:29 pm
by UAdevil
Dayum

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:29 pm
by dirtbags
fucking incredible. just wow.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:29 pm
by 84Cat
OMG!!!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:30 pm
by ASUHATER!
Onions!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:30 pm
by Alieberman
Unbelievable!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:30 pm
by scumdevils86
Amazing

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:31 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
That's appropriate. Both of those teams played incredible ball, hit big shots and basically deserved to win. Fitting that it came down to last shot for the win.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:31 pm
by 84Cat
That was an awesome game from start to finish.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:31 pm
by Catintheheat
BTW Adam Spanich played for USC and threw up a prayer of a shot to stop UA from going undefeated in conference play in 98. That was what Paige did to tie the game.

The fact that UNC came back says a lot too.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:32 pm
by VegasCatFan
Instant classic!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:33 pm
by Catintheheat
That is one of the best finals I've ever seen. Great ending after 2 blowouts on Saturday.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:35 pm
by CatMG
What a game. And an even better finish. I think if Nova doesn't hit that shot they probably lose in OT after blowing the lead down the stretch.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:35 pm
by CatsbyAZ
What a game! Congrats Nova!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:38 pm
by dirtbags
ya got lucky, selection committee! :lol:

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:39 pm
by gumby
Incredible game. Imcredible finish.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:41 pm
by wyo-cat
Arch drew the D and he set Jenkins up perfectly. Great play.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:44 pm
by Alieberman
This year's tourney was filled with uninteresting boring games but the final was an all time great one.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:44 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:45 pm
by gumby
First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:46 pm
by NYCat
Idk how you get over that as a UNC fan

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:48 pm
by Catintheheat
NYCat wrote:Idk how you get over that as a UNC fan
It was a tear jerker ending, but at least it wasn't a choke job. The game was won not given away.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:50 pm
by dirtbags
haha, the march madness app cut off the broadcast just before one shining moment. nice work, guys!

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:51 pm
by UAEebs86
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Four seconds left when Smart hit it and Syracuse had one more chance.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:53 pm
by Frybry02
Is this the end for Roy? He seems even more emotional the past month than usual.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:53 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Even Smart was with 5 seconds left. I can't remember a true buzzer beater.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:54 pm
by gumby
Catintheheat wrote:
NYCat wrote:Idk how you get over that as a UNC fan
It was a tear jerker ending, but at least it wasn't a choke job. The game was won not given away.
Yep. And took a prayer to tie it.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:54 pm
by Frybry02
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Even Smart was with 5 seconds left. I can't remember a true buzzer beater.
83 nc state over Houston?

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:55 pm
by gumby
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Even Smart was with 5 seconds left. I can't remember a true buzzer beater.
Probably a first.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:55 pm
by gumby
Frybry02 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Even Smart was with 5 seconds left. I can't remember a true buzzer beater.
83 nc state over Houston?
There you go. Good call.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:01 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Frybry02 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:First buzzer beater in the finals since ... Keith Smart and Indiana? I believe so. That's 1987.
Even Smart was with 5 seconds left. I can't remember a true buzzer beater.
83 nc state over Houston?
Correct. Don't know how I forgot that one.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:04 pm
by ASUHATER!
NYCat wrote:Idk how you get over that as a UNC fan
You fall back onto your other 5 titles and 19 final fours and are over it soon.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:49 am
by Merkin
I thought Wright made a mistake calling a TO after the last made FT with 13 seconds left. Gave UNC a chance to setup their offense, and they scored a 3 to tie the game.

Then the last Nova TO worked to perfection.

Not sure what D Cryin' Roy drew up, but don't pressure the ball handler, and leave the 3 point shooter open?

That would not have been a UA finish.

Lute would not have a called either of the last 2 TOs, he liked to have the players win the game.

Miller wouldn't have had any time outs left to call.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:05 am
by pc in NM
Merkin wrote:I thought Wright made a mistake calling a TO after the last made FT with 13 seconds left. Gave UNC a chance to setup their offense, and they scored a 3 to tie the game.

Then the last Nova TO worked to perfection.

Not sure what D Cryin' Roy drew up, but don't pressure the ball handler, and leave the 3 point shooter open?

That would not have been a UA finish.

Lute would not have a called either of the last 2 TOs, he liked to have the players win the game.

Miller wouldn't have had any time outs left to call.
Villanova did a great job of disrupting NC's play, and I'm sure ANY coach would take that shot from Paige - it was awesome defense....

Arcidiacono not only had the presence to make a great pass, but his "brush screen" allowed Jenkins to get the shot off - any attempt to disrupt that drive upcourt or to get on Jenkins through Arcidiacono risked a foul, which would have been just as devastating....

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:45 am
by Chicat
Merkin wrote:Not sure what D Cryin' Roy drew up, but don't pressure the ball handler, and leave the 3 point shooter open?
Yep, Roy didn't pressure the inbounder and went into a zone for no effing reason anyone can figure.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:46 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Merkin wrote:I thought Wright made a mistake calling a TO after the last made FT with 13 seconds left. Gave UNC a chance to setup their offense, and they scored a 3 to tie the game.

Then the last Nova TO worked to perfection.

Not sure what D Cryin' Roy drew up, but don't pressure the ball handler, and leave the 3 point shooter open?

That would not have been a UA finish.

Lute would not have a called either of the last 2 TOs, he liked to have the players win the game.

Miller wouldn't have had any time outs left to call.
I don't know how you let Arcidicano get a free run like that. Plus, they had nobody on the inbounder. It was just laying back all the way, and 5 seconds is way too much time for that. Villanova got a great look and UNC did nothing to disrupt it.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:50 am
by 84Cat
The only explanation that makes sense is that with the game tied, I think they were more about defending the basket from drives than thinking Nova would shoot a 3.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:02 am
by Spaceman Spiff
84Cat wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that with the game tied, I think they were more about defending the basket from drives than thinking Nova would shoot a 3.
That's valid, but I still think you want at least to attack the dribbler before he gets into shooting range. If you force him to give it up in the backcourt, the D has time to adjust. What they did ended in them not really locking in on Arcidiacano until the right pass gets Nova an open look.

They had token full court pressure, but I don't know why you would sink so fast that you give up a wide open three to the only trailer.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:03 am
by Chicat
84Cat wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that with the game tied, I think they were more about defending the basket from drives than thinking Nova would shoot a 3.
If Nova was taking it out on their offensive side of the court, sure, I can see that. But from the other end in 5 seconds you have to stop them from advancing the ball. No two ways about it. Roy brainfarted.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:25 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Chicat wrote:
84Cat wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that with the game tied, I think they were more about defending the basket from drives than thinking Nova would shoot a 3.
If Nova was taking it out on their offensive side of the court, sure, I can see that. But from the other end in 5 seconds you have to stop them from advancing the ball. No two ways about it. Roy brainfarted.
You can go end to end in 5 seconds, but I don't get extending pressure fullcourt but not trying to force the ballhandler to give it up. The reason you extend is to make the advance more difficult, otherwise you can just stack guys at halfcourt.

The philosophy seems like "pick up full court then don't foul." They never did anything but passively guarding after the inbound.

Re: NCAA Tournament Games

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:32 am
by Chicat
I think you nailed it that the instruction was "at all costs, do not foul". Then you get three guys guarding empty space. See coach? I didn't foul!