Bear Down Wildcats

NYCat wrote:

NYCat wrote:

Lawyers of both Arizona head coach Sean Miller and the University of Arizona spent Tuesday in deep negotiations regarding Miller's future with the school, sources told 247Sports. By the end of Tuesday, the sides had yet to reach an amicable agreement regarding options for Miller to return to the sideline. Miller missed practice yet again on Tuesday.

Negotiations have continued into Wednesday, and as of this report he's not expected to be at practice today, sources told 247Sports.

azcat49 wrote:lifetime contract

phxcat23 wrote:

NYCat wrote:

NYCat wrote:

Lawyers of both Arizona head coach Sean Miller and the University of Arizona spent Tuesday in deep negotiations regarding Miller's future with the school, sources told 247Sports. By the end of Tuesday, the sides had yet to reach an amicable agreement regarding options for Miller to return to the sideline. Miller missed practice yet again on Tuesday.

Negotiations have continued into Wednesday, and as of this report he's not expected to be at practice today, sources told 247Sports.

Miller probably wants to sue the shit out of ESPN, but the University is too much of a bunch of pansies and doesn't want to get on board.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

rgdeuce wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

He's done.

"...discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

They are probably looking to see the financial ramifications of terminating his contract

A.R.S 38-431.03(a)(1): "Discussion or consideration of employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee or employee of any public body....."

(a)(3): "Discussion or consultation for legal advice with the attorney or attorneys of the public body."

(a)(4): Discussion or consultation with the public body in order to consider its position and instruct its attorneys regarding the public body's position regarding contracts that are the subject of negotiations, in pending or contemplated litigation or in settlement discussions conducted in order to avoid or resolve litigation."

Both good and bad options covered in all that.

Funny, I posted that link right above.

If they put in the cite to a4 for a reason, that worries me. If it's just an all options list, the rest is pretty blah. Just about authority for a meeting.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

rgdeuce wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

He's done.

"...discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

They are probably looking to see the financial ramifications of terminating his contract

A.R.S 38-431.03(a)(1): "Discussion or consideration of employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee or employee of any public body....."

(a)(3): "Discussion or consultation for legal advice with the attorney or attorneys of the public body."

(a)(4): Discussion or consultation with the public body in order to consider its position and instruct its attorneys regarding the public body's position regarding contracts that are the subject of negotiations, in pending or contemplated litigation or in settlement discussions conducted in order to avoid or resolve litigation."

Both good and bad options covered in all that.

Funny, I posted that link right above.

If they put in the cite to a4 for a reason, that worries me. If it's just an all options list, the rest is pretty blah. Just about authority for a meeting.

billk78 wrote:Is it possible the lawyers are discussing a restructuring of the language in the contract? Something that would cover the U of A and allow for less to be paid to Miller is they were to fire him for cause? Perhaps the University knows the ESPN report is BS but does want to protect itself in case anything legit does come out from all of the ongoing investigations. So discussions like "we want you to stay and coach right now, but we also want to reword some of that contract due to the book incident, BS espn reports, and ongoing investigations in the NCAA?

billk78 wrote:Is it possible the lawyers are discussing a restructuring of the language in the contract? Something that would cover the U of A and allow for less to be paid to Miller is they were to fire him for cause? Perhaps the University knows the ESPN report is BS but does want to protect itself in case anything legit does come out from all of the ongoing investigations. So discussions like "we want you to stay and coach right now, but we also want to reword some of that contract due to the book incident, BS espn reports, and ongoing investigations in the NCAA?

phxcat23 wrote:

billk78 wrote:Is it possible the lawyers are discussing a restructuring of the language in the contract? Something that would cover the U of A and allow for less to be paid to Miller is they were to fire him for cause? Perhaps the University knows the ESPN report is BS but does want to protect itself in case anything legit does come out from all of the ongoing investigations. So discussions like "we want you to stay and coach right now, but we also want to reword some of that contract due to the book incident, BS espn reports, and ongoing investigations in the NCAA?

Could be possible...and possibly the reason why they are "negotiating" in order to settle on a figure?

NYCat wrote:

azgreg wrote:

97cats wrote:there is one concern right now, and its legitimate -- if Arizona lets Sean Miller coach the rest of the season and into the NCAA Tournament, if there are other grenades, as many have said there are, they will surely be deployed during this period, especially if AZ makes a deep run in the NCAA's or dare i even say make the Final Four.

the fall-out from that may be too large to ever come back from, even if the contract were re-written, its future land mines that are becoming the issue.

Arizona has wanted Miller to finish the season, separate amicably, and hire a new coach and vision with as little fanfare as possible.

obvviouslt that plan and/or hope has changed and new directives have been given.

97cats wrote:there is one concern right now, and its legitimate -- if Arizona lets Sean Miller coach the rest of the season and into the NCAA Tournament, if there are other grenades, as many have said there are, they will surely be deployed during this period, especially if AZ makes a deep run in the NCAA's or dare i even say make the Final Four.

the fall-out from that may be too large to ever come back from, even if the contract were re-written, its future land mines that are becoming the issue.

Arizona has wanted Miller to finish the season, separate amicably, and hire a new coach and vision with as little fanfare as possible.

obvviouslt that plan and/or hope has changed and new directives have been given.

billk78 wrote:My petsitter has a neighbor who is second cousins with a guy who works at the Arizona bookstore. He ran into an Arizona player....I'll just say his last name rhymes with "Fear"....and he may or may not have written on a piece of paper something that rhymes with "tired" in regards to CSM.

RiseAndFire wrote:So I spoke with a former UA coach lets call him "Moe Flasternack" who is still close to Miller and familiar with the talks - he tells me the delay is Miller is refusing to step aside because he wants a chance to finish the season out on HIS TERMS - with a loss to a double digit seed in the Elite Eight.

btfd16 wrote:

billk78 wrote:My petsitter has a neighbor who is second cousins with a guy who works at the Arizona bookstore. He ran into an Arizona player....I'll just say his last name rhymes with "Fear"....and he may or may not have written on a piece of paper something that rhymes with "tired" in regards to CSM.

Hired?! Woohoo

UAdevil wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:So I spoke with a former UA coach lets call him "Moe Flasternack" who is still close to Miller and familiar with the talks - he tells me the delay is Miller is refusing to step aside because he wants a chance to finish the season out on HIS TERMS - with a loss to a double digit seed in the Elite Eight.

Chicat wrote:

UAdevil wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:So I spoke with a former UA coach lets call him "Moe Flasternack" who is still close to Miller and familiar with the talks - he tells me the delay is Miller is refusing to step aside because he wants a chance to finish the season out on HIS TERMS - with a loss to a double digit seed in the Elite Eight.

RiseAndFail has cemented his troll status.

97cats wrote:there is one concern right now, and its legitimate -- if Arizona lets Sean Miller coach the rest of the season and into the NCAA Tournament, if there are other grenades, as many have said there are, they will surely be deployed during this period, especially if AZ makes a deep run in the NCAA's or dare i even say make the Final Four.

the fall-out from that may be too large to ever come back from, even if the contract were re-written, its future land mines that are becoming the issue.

Arizona has wanted Miller to finish the season, separate amicably, and hire a new coach and vision with as little fanfare as possible.

obvviouslt that plan and/or hope has changed and new directives have been given.

billk78 wrote:My petsitter has a neighbor who is second cousins with a guy who works at the Arizona bookstore. He ran into an Arizona player....I'll just say his last name rhymes with "Fear"....and he may or may not have written on a piece of paper something that rhymes with "tired" in regards to CSM.

Chicat wrote:

UAdevil wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:So I spoke with a former UA coach lets call him "Moe Flasternack" who is still close to Miller and familiar with the talks - he tells me the delay is Miller is refusing to step aside because he wants a chance to finish the season out on HIS TERMS - with a loss to a double digit seed in the Elite Eight.

RiseAndFail has cemented his troll status.

billk78 wrote:I know us as fans (most) are supporting Miller and want to see him stick around for now. However, what do the people who matter ($$$$ donoars and boosters) think? Because that's what they're going to go by.

RiseAndFire wrote:So I spoke with a former UA coach lets call him "Moe Flasternack" who is still close to Miller and familiar with the talks - he tells me the delay is Miller is refusing to step aside because he wants a chance to finish the season out on HIS TERMS - with a loss to a double digit seed in the Elite Eight.

97cats wrote:there is one concern right now, and its legitimate -- if Arizona lets Sean Miller coach the rest of the season and into the NCAA Tournament, if there are other grenades, as many have said there are, they will surely be deployed during this period, especially if AZ makes a deep run in the NCAA's or dare i even say make the Final Four.

the fall-out from that may be too large to ever come back from, even if the contract were re-written, its future land mines that are becoming the issue.

Arizona has wanted Miller to finish the season, separate amicably, and hire a new coach and vision with as little fanfare as possible.

obvviouslt that plan and/or hope has changed and new directives have been given.

ramcat wrote:Below is reply of letter I sent to ABOR.

Dear Mr. Brooke:

Thank you for contacting the Arizona Board of Regents to express your concerns about media coverage surrounding the investigation of the University of Arizona men’s basketball program.

Arizona Board of Regents Chair Bill Ridenour released a statement this past weekend regarding UA basketball, in which he states that “We must do everything we can to ensure that our programs are of the highest caliber as we must also protect the rights of all involved and respect due process for employees.”

The board appreciates the feedback it receives from the public.

Your message will be shared with the board.

Best,


Paula Gates | Manager of Constituent Communications
602-229-2517 | Paula.Gates@azregents.edu" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
2020 N. Central Avenue, #230 | Phoenix, AZ 85004 | http://www.azregents.edu" target="_blank

billk78 wrote:I know us as fans (most) are supporting Miller and want to see him stick around for now. However, what do the people who matter ($$$$ donoars and boosters) think? Because that's what they're going to go by.

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BibbysTowelDude wrote:Trier for 30 tomorrow night.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

97cats wrote:there is one concern right now, and its legitimate -- if Arizona lets Sean Miller coach the rest of the season and into the NCAA Tournament, if there are other grenades, as many have said there are, they will surely be deployed during this period, especially if AZ makes a deep run in the NCAA's or dare i even say make the Final Four.

the fall-out from that may be too large to ever come back from, even if the contract were re-written, its future land mines that are becoming the issue.

Arizona has wanted Miller to finish the season, separate amicably, and hire a new coach and vision with as little fanfare as possible.

obvviouslt that plan and/or hope has changed and new directives have been given.

If there are grenades, I can't imagine they're not thrown regardless of our tourney coach. The higher our profile, the more impact allegations can have.

We'll see what emerges tomorrow. If Miller's ready to be done, I don't see why you can't just drop a release where he consents to paid leave to "avoid distraction to the team" as it enters the tourney. This keeps him out of the media eye and you work on the final parting.

BibbysTowelDude wrote:ABoR can’t and won’t be doing squat today or tomorrow.

NYCat wrote:

BibbysTowelDude wrote:ABoR can’t and won’t be doing squat today or tomorrow.

Yup, it's up to Robbins/Heeke