2023-24 non PAC-12 games

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:13 pm

Purdue is more than Edey. They have a guard and forward that fought for every loose ball. They also hit the boards harder than any team we have seen. Where I think we might have a slight advantage is our bigs out running Edey.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:34 pm

If our bigs stay out of foul trouble and spell each other we can keep Edey running. Ke needs to play big on the boards and our guards gotta be strong with the ball and knock down shots. Damn it's gonna be a good test.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:41 pm

Jo Hawks refuse to go away.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:54 pm

Cal: Yo Izzo, got a spare line of morphine?

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:30 pm

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:37 pm

Don't look now but Wisky looked really tough against Virginia. Doubled them up on rebounds (48-21) and hit from 3 pretty well.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:06 pm

Tell me who thought Marquette was good? Just 3's and doesn't even look like an organized offense. It is early but compared to Gonzaga or almost any team I have seen this year just looks helter skelter.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:10 pm

Marquette has to figure out the Trollops' Tar Baby. It's a McConstipated gameplan that gums everybody up.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:35 pm

For the number 4 team in the country they need to play at least a little defense and look like their offense isn't just their point guard penetrating and passing to the corner for 3.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:06 pm

Wasn't Mick earlier warning Bona about his elbow swing?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:47 pm

Maybe it's me, but it seems that time slows to a crawl when Mick's Trollops play a 40 minute game. It's never-ending.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:41 pm

Edey is getting the same apologetics from the announcers that the collegiate Shaq used to get…

His fouls aren’t fouls; his obvious uncalled fouls aren’t noticed. Irritating!
He’s shoving off and holding like crazy.

That’s fine with me. He’s not gonna get away with that crap against Oumar and Mo. He slow as a slug…

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:46 pm

Barnes just got a technical when Edey egregiously pushed off, but was awarded : fouls shots…

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:45 pm

Purdue and Tennessee is unwatchable with the amount of whistles

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:49 pm

Frybry02 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:45 pm Purdue and Tennessee is unwatchable with the amount of whistles

But, but this is the non Pac-12 games thread.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:50 pm

Both of those teams look good. Purdue can play without Edey pretty well.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:52 pm

Both these teams can’t move the ball around the way we do on offense.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Both of these teams can't turn the ball over the way we do when we don't pay attention.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:38 pm

Arizona should beat both these teams. Tennessee can't shoot and Purdue plays in the half-court. The Cats can match-up Edey. And, I wonder how Purdue is going to deal with the tenacity of the Cats. When the Cats get into a flow, they are really fast, and really good. Maybe MSU will reveal some flaws I don't see.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:47 pm

Purdue shot 48 fucking FTs; Tenn. shot 30. Wow.

Purdue put up 54 FG attempts; Tenn. put up 58. Against Dook we put up 65 and had 17 TOs. If we take care of the ball and don't foul unnecessarily we beat either or both these teams.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:03 pm

I don’t judge perimeter shooting or ball handling too harshly in these day-two and day-three games in these tourneys. Gotta take into account tired legs, which doesn’t occur the rest of the year…

I think Tennessee is a dangerous team, athletic, good defenders very quick - I think they could beat anybody.

Purdue won’t always shoot this poorly, and are pretty good. I believe Arizona matches up with them better than any other team - we should beat them… I can’t wait to see Edey vs Oumar AND Mo - could actually be Mo’s coming out party on the National stage!!

Of course, in Indy there’s always the fear that the refs will fuck it all up!!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:46 pm

Kolek the thief

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:51 pm

Marq is playing some defense tonight. They look quick tonight.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:10 pm

Fuegs calls TO!

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:39 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:46 pm Kolek the thief

That guy was shit last night. Playing more under control tonight.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:57 pm

Technically, Kansas didn't lose, right?

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:10 pm

Enfuego? Doubt we will hear from him for some time.

IrishAzCat · Post by **IrishAzCat** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:30 pm

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:21 am

That's beautiful.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:25 am

Go Purdue!!!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am

If we play Marquette I don't know how we guard Ighodaro. Dude that big and that mobile has 4" on Keshad and is used to playing 9 more minutes per game than him. Gonna be a load if they speed us up and spread the floor. Quick guards drawing help give him a lot of goods looks.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:15 am

I'm taping that Mqt Purdue game, I gotta see them both.
They don't have a Mo or a Ballo. We have a lot of different looks to throw at them.
Plus I'm sure we can do better on Igodaro than Kansas did with Dickinson, we would put Hunter in the spin cycle as well. HD scores a lot and is tall but easy to out work for quicker bigs.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:49 am

I predict that the winner of Purdue/Marquette will be #1 next week; the loser will be #2 0r #3, depending how close the game is.

We'll get Purdue, regardless. I'm pretty confident we match up well with them.

BTW - I believe that rankings before January (at the earliest) don't mean very much.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:52 am

The Maui Invitational is a really brutal tourney this year - KU, MU, PU and Tenn all risked leaving with 2 losses - one certainly will...

... regardless, these battles are a coach's dream - even the losers will know exactly what they have to work with and what needs to improve.

Just like the 'Cats after their preseason schedule!!!

All of it's great for the fans!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:57 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am If we play Marquette I don't know how we guard Ighodaro. Dude that big and that mobile has 4" on Keshad and is used to playing 9 more minutes per game than him. Gonna be a load if they speed us up and spread the floor. Quick guards drawing help give him a lot of goods looks.

Can’t be any more sped up or spread out than what these kids face every day in practice.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:38 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:57 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am If we play Marquette I don't know how we guard Ighodaro. Dude that big and that mobile has 4" on Keshad and is used to playing 9 more minutes per game than him. Gonna be a load if they speed us up and spread the floor. Quick guards drawing help give him a lot of goods looks.
Can’t be any more sped up or spread out than what these kids face every day in practice.

I hope you're right, but off the dribble against Kansas they looked faster than us. One could argue it was an outlier game for them, but if Love goes that fast he isn't usually reliable; Boz is solid and productive but he's not as fast; Lewis and Bradley will not have the minutes to change the speed difference IMO.

When we get spread out it can drill down to matchups, and that brings it back to Ighodaro. If we go small and Keshad can play 35 minutes and beast for every fucking minute .... who knows.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:42 pm

I don't believe Kansas is a top 10 team. They have no bench. And Dickinson is way overrated.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:46 pm

If Tennessee could shoot they would be dangerous.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:26 pm

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:42 pm I don't believe Kansas is a top 10 team. They have no bench. And Dickinson is way overrated.

Their bench is doing very well today, and its really early in the season - they’ll be fine!

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:34 pm

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:46 pm If Tennessee could shoot they would be dangerous.

Third game in three days - can’t draw many conclusions about poor perimeter shooting.

this game was won on the interior…

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm

pc in NM wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:34 pm
Catintheheat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:46 pm If Tennessee could shoot they would be dangerous.
Third game in three days - can’t draw many conclusions about poor perimeter shooting.

this game was won on the interior…

I agree with this. Many things can change. Teams and players improve over the season. If UA played like they did last year in Maui they would have been in the final four.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:50 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:38 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:57 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am If we play Marquette I don't know how we guard Ighodaro. Dude that big and that mobile has 4" on Keshad and is used to playing 9 more minutes per game than him. Gonna be a load if they speed us up and spread the floor. Quick guards drawing help give him a lot of goods looks.
Can’t be any more sped up or spread out than what these kids face every day in practice.
I hope you're right

Well let’s look at my track record. Loved the Sumlin hire, was skeptical of the Lloyd hire, and was outright hostile to the Fisch hire, so OBVIOUSLY… I know my Sportsball.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:54 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:50 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:38 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:57 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:03 am If we play Marquette I don't know how we guard Ighodaro. Dude that big and that mobile has 4" on Keshad and is used to playing 9 more minutes per game than him. Gonna be a load if they speed us up and spread the floor. Quick guards drawing help give him a lot of goods looks.
Can’t be any more sped up or spread out than what these kids face every day in practice.
I hope you're right
Well let’s look at my track record. Loved the Sumlin hire, was skeptical of the Lloyd hire, and was outright hostile to the Fisch hire, so OBVIOUSLY… I know my Sportsball.

lol

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:08 pm

Watching the Maui championship game it appears Purdue is for real. That is great for the upcoming game in Indy. I still say Kansas is overrated. No way they are top 5.

Purdue, Arizona, Marquette, UConn, and Duke are better.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:37 pm

Marquette/Purdue is a fun game to watch. The game is being played at a high level. I can't wait to play Purdue. We matchup well with them.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm

Yeah that was an amazing game. Hope Purdue can stay undefeated until we play them.

Agree about Kansas. No way are they top 10.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm

Alright, as long as we win tomorrow, top 5 on Monday should go…

Purdue, AZ, UConn, Marquette, KU

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:19 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm Alright, as long as we win tomorrow, top 5 on Monday should go…

Purdue, AZ, UConn, Marquette, KU

Can't see UConn above Marquette when they nearly knocked off Purdue.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:38 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:19 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm Alright, as long as we win tomorrow, top 5 on Monday should go…

Purdue, AZ, UConn, Marquette, KU
Can't see UConn above Marquette when they nearly knocked off Purdue.

I hear you. Should be a close vote for 3-5. But that’s how I think it’ll go. UConn is also the defending champs, so there’s that.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:27 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm Yeah that was an amazing game. Hope Purdue can stay undefeated until we play them.

Agree about Kansas. No way are they top 10.

Well, Purdue doesn't play Rutgers before they play us, so I think they'll still be #1 when we beat them.

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