Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:32 pm
I feel the ABOR will do all it can to protect Tempe Normal.
Michael Crow runs the ABOR through Larry Penley.
On espn, ya’ll know they are in panic mode over there with layoffs and potential divestment from Disney, right? Internally, they know shifting to streaming is the only way they as a network will have any stability. They won’t be the same network in three years.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:24 pm
by azgreg
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:34 pm
by gouacats
I'm really hoping that the result of the ABOR meeting is "Go ahead and go, but see if you can take your little brother with you."
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:37 pm
by CalStateTempe
I hope arizona comes in with “we are leaving, asu get on board or get left out”
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:32 pm
I feel the ABOR will do all it can to protect Tempe Normal.
Michael Crow runs the ABOR through Larry Penley.
On espn, ya’ll know they are in panic mode over there with layoffs and potential divestment from Disney, right? Internally, they know shifting to streaming is the only way they as a network will have any stability. They won’t be the same network in three years.
They plan to have their own streaming service, Not sure if they will stay on CATV and aggregate streaming services. I'm guessing it will cost at least $20/month.
Average TV viewers for each remaining PAC-9 team is like 1.2M so good luck with all of that.
And how many are avid enough fans to subscribe? Maybe 200k?
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:53 pm
by 84Cat
Aaron doesn't think the Big 12 is all that interested in ASU
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:55 pm
by BBQ wildcat
Fine with me. No reason they should go. We can always schedule them non-con to give them a proper beatdown.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:15 pm
by CalStateTempe
Robbins gonna fuck this up, isn’t he…
He’s such a a simp for crow and the pac12
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
by Postmaster
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
Average TV viewers for each remaining PAC-9 team is like 1.2M so good luck with all of that.
And how many are avid enough fans to subscribe? Maybe 200k?
I consider myself a diehard and I’m legitimately on the fence about subscribing to Apple PAC-9+.
Meanwhile I already get ESPN as part of my Disney package.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:47 pm
by PHXCATS
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
It is giving information. You gotta get espn+ and stream to watch many UA games if UA moved to the Big 12. Lots of important information about the Big 12 gets ignored by many people here and in the "media"
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:28 pm
by CardiacCats97
Nobody is ignoring it. You just like to pretend you are the only one looking at the big picture. It’s boring.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:32 pm
by EastCoastCat
We don’t ignore the key points like the PAC is a sinking ship with no future and the Big 12 is saving our ass from being relegated to a conference wasteland.
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
Math is hard for some people.
Yes, its really hard for two posters in particular.
I'm waiting for the other one to show up and make the case that we should stay in the MountainPACWest Conference because there is a 0.00002% chance we might get invited to join the SEC in 2150.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:43 pm
by azcat49
I would get the Apple sports app to watch the cats no matter the price but this move is not about that.
It’s about more money over the next 5-8 years. A considerable amount more.
It’s about joining the premier basketball conference and being highlighted in big games that the nation can watch weekly.
It’s about a growing football program that right now would have the second best recruiting class in the conference and might contend very quickly for a championship.
It’s about not playing until the stroke of midnight every freaking game it seems.
It’s about passionate fan bases and schools that care for athletics.
It’s about leadership that is effective and forward thinking
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
It is giving information. You gotta get espn+ and stream to watch many UA games if UA moved to the Big 12. Lots of important information about the Big 12 gets ignored by many people here and in the "media"
It is giving information. You gotta get Apple+, and another
subscription package add-on and stream to watch every single UA games if UA stayed in the PAC 12. Lots of information about the Pac 12 gets ignored by machina here and in the "media"
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:20 pm
I tried to watch TNF on Amazon and I hated it. I have to basically log back in if I want to channel surf during commercials or half time. If that is what streaming on apple would be like, there is no way I would watch.
You do know 40% of big12 games are streaming this year right?
And how is that worse than 100% for PAC on Apple?
Math is hard for some people.
Yes, its really hard for two posters in particular.
I'm waiting for the other one to show up and make the case that we should stay in the MountainPACWest Conference because there is a 0.00002% chance we might get invited to join the SEC in 2150.
Is that other poster Robbins?
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:19 pm
by CalStateTempe
azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:43 pm
I would get the Apple sports app to watch the cats no matter the price but this move is not about that.
It’s about more money over the next 5-8 years. A considerable amount more.
It’s about joining the premier basketball conference and being highlighted in big games that the nation can watch weekly.
It’s about a growing football program that right now would have the second best recruiting class in the conference and might contend very quickly for a championship.
It’s about not playing until the stroke of midnight every freaking game it seems.
It’s about passionate fan bases and schools that care for athletics.
It’s about leadership that is effective and forward thinking
It really is a no brainer decision really
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:25 pm
by dmjcat
Speaking of numbers being hard for some people: This is a tweet from June 9th
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm
by PHXCATS
More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12
Just making sure everyone is aware of that
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:27 pm
by dmjcat
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm
More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12
Just making sure everyone is aware of that
The UA will make a lot more money and actually have some exposure on a national network!!!
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm
More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12
Just making sure everyone is aware of that
The UA will make a lot more money and actually have some exposure on a national network!!!
Just making sure PHXCATS is aware of that
Did I claim otherwise?
49 mentioned better start times
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:32 pm
by Frybry02
So what happened at the ABOR meeting?
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:33 pm
by RondaeShimmy
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:26 pm
More UA home football games will be kick off at 7pm or later AZ time if we go to the Big12
Just making sure everyone is aware of that
This is such a weird retort because the majority of the complaints of low home attendance for years have been late start times.
We always had late home games after 7 unless we were playing USC or an Oregon and we were somehow decently good
We'll get better start times if we're decently good and facing a good team and get 5-6 start times (or midday), although count it more for basketball unless football catches up
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:51 pm
by Postmaster
dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:25 pm
Speaking of numbers being hard for some people: This is a tweet from June 9th
I think he meant more than $12.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:11 am
by CatsbyAZ
Even CNBC’s investment shows are opining on Apple’s potential streaming deal with the Pac 12 this morning, asking “doesn’t Apple have bigger priorities right now?”
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:33 am
by CalStateTempe
Do we hear anything today or did the deadline pass?
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:39 am
by RondaeShimmy
Incompetent leadership
.
Always gatekeeping and thinking about the long term and they get their comeuppance
Staying any longer with this leadership is going to continue to hurt us in the long term
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:59 am
by EastCoastCat
I don't like this narrative we only go if we take ASSU and Utah with us.
Look out for #1 should be our only mindset right now.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:11 am
by KillerKlown
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:59 am
I don't like this narrative we only go if we take ASSU and Utah with us.
Look out for #1 should be our only mindset right now.
I think it's made up imo. It's been UA can/will move without and now after the Apple deal drops it's suddenly we won't move without them. B.S.
If it is true than Robbins just proved with out a doubt it's true what everyone says about him .
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:29 am
by CardiacCats97
RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:39 am
Always gatekeeping and thinking about the long term and they get their comeuppance
“It was a short conversation”
=
“LOL, fuck no”
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:54 am
by RondaeShimmy
Unfortunately it seems getting the perceived blame for the downfall of the pac 12 might actually work on booby Robbins
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:02 am
by CalStateTempe
I hate this.
Robbins basically ruining our AD and school during his tenure
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:33 am
by dmjcat
CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:02 am
I hate this.
Robbins basically ruining our AD and school during his tenure
I think we should wait to see how this situation shakes out before blaming Robbins......we really don't have any public information on what he is actually doing at the moment.
I would also point out that Robbins has mostly inherited this mess......which has been over a decade in the making.
If we want to blame someone we should look at who was the UA President when Larry Scott was voted into power.....and then never questioned what he was doing.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am
by azcat49
I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.
Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:45 am
by CalStateTempe
Fair enough, but let’s just say how Robbins handled the Miller fiasco leaves a lot to be desired.
And I’m glad we’ve e moved in from Miller but still.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:45 am
by CalStateTempe
azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am
I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.
Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
Deep in my wildcat heart I hope this rumor is true J.
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:46 am
by CalStateTempe
What do the coaches want? Any inside info?
Re: Conference Realignment
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:47 am
by dmjcat
azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am
I thought the rumor was Robbins met with Yormark yesterday in Houston? That has to be a good sign I would think.
Just don’t see how he comes to a conclusion that doesn’t have us move
Yes, that is one of the MANY rumors out there. Unfortunately, thats pretty much all we have to operate off right now.......rumors.
Thats why I pointed out that we need to let this situation play itself out before looking for torches and pitchforks and anointing scapegoats.
