Bear Down Wildcats

For fuck sake. UA will be fine. There is not a noon Pacific time deadline or anything

CopaCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:52 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:48 am

OSUCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:42 am

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:34 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:32 am

I would not shed a single tear if the B12 stopped at 14 (to await the outcome of the potential ACC breakup) and let asu die on the vine in the MWC 2.0

Neither would I

Would be funny if Utah and Stanford joined the big-12 and ASU was left out.

There is actually some logic in the B12 taking Stanford & SDSU. They would get two West coast teams in the SoCal/Bay area markets

I could see Cal, Stanford, and Utah over us thanks to Crow and ABOR. That tweet about "other options" is not reassuring.

For fuck sake. UA is already approved. Robbins just has to give the final call

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am With ORWA gone, there's nothing left for us in the PAC. If Utah and ASu want to remain with the Bays, PWN States, and a bunch of G5 schools, let them. There's no future for a west coast based conference without the LA schools and ORWA. ORWA going B1G also means the BIG12 will likely remain ESPN's 4th window conference not only for the next contract, but beyond. Again, without LA or ORWA, the ESPN isn't going to pay a SEC premium for the remaining west coast teams.

The last question for ORWA is how much of a share they get to start. At half share, WA was complaining that's a major issue, because they expect an extra $10 million in travel costs. And half share of $60 million ($30 million - $10 million extra travel ) equals out to $20 million. Which is what UW would make in the PAC. Now, if it's a ladder situation where ORWA get 1/2 to start, and full share by year 5, ORWA still comes out way ahead. Additional travel costs is why ORWA were never considering the BIG12. It's not as big a concern for the 4-corner schools, with BYU and our closer proximity to Texas and the midwest.

Its a MIRACLE! AzCatFan2 now thinks we should leave the PAC

Will we get two miracles today??? Where is PHXCATS???

FWIW Arizona’s position is significant weakened with the OR and WA schools declaring first

Look above dmj

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:58 am

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am With ORWA gone, there's nothing left for us in the PAC. If Utah and ASu want to remain with the Bays, PWN States, and a bunch of G5 schools, let them. There's no future for a west coast based conference without the LA schools and ORWA. ORWA going B1G also means the BIG12 will likely remain ESPN's 4th window conference not only for the next contract, but beyond. Again, without LA or ORWA, the ESPN isn't going to pay a SEC premium for the remaining west coast teams.

The last question for ORWA is how much of a share they get to start. At half share, WA was complaining that's a major issue, because they expect an extra $10 million in travel costs. And half share of $60 million ($30 million - $10 million extra travel ) equals out to $20 million. Which is what UW would make in the PAC. Now, if it's a ladder situation where ORWA get 1/2 to start, and full share by year 5, ORWA still comes out way ahead. Additional travel costs is why ORWA were never considering the BIG12. It's not as big a concern for the 4-corner schools, with BYU and our closer proximity to Texas and the midwest.

Its a MIRACLE! AzCatFan2 now thinks we should leave the PAC

Will we get two miracles today??? Where is PHXCATS???

Are you really this fucking stupid?

Tell me once when I said stay you dumb fuck

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:01 am Look above dmj

He hasn't signed off on it yet CST

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:00 am FWIW Arizona’s position is significant weakened with the OR and WA schools declaring first

It in no way is. 100% is not

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:00 am FWIW Arizona’s position is significant weakened with the OR and WA schools declaring first

Disagree, Arizona has everything ready, which includes Big-12 votes on full share. It’s Utah and ASU that are significantly weakened.

OSUCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:04 am

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:00 am FWIW Arizona’s position is significant weakened with the OR and WA schools declaring first

Disagree, Arizona has everything ready, which includes Big-12 votes on full share. It’s Utah and ASU that are significantly weakened.

This

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:03 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:58 am

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am With ORWA gone, there's nothing left for us in the PAC. If Utah and ASu want to remain with the Bays, PWN States, and a bunch of G5 schools, let them. There's no future for a west coast based conference without the LA schools and ORWA. ORWA going B1G also means the BIG12 will likely remain ESPN's 4th window conference not only for the next contract, but beyond. Again, without LA or ORWA, the ESPN isn't going to pay a SEC premium for the remaining west coast teams.

The last question for ORWA is how much of a share they get to start. At half share, WA was complaining that's a major issue, because they expect an extra $10 million in travel costs. And half share of $60 million ($30 million - $10 million extra travel ) equals out to $20 million. Which is what UW would make in the PAC. Now, if it's a ladder situation where ORWA get 1/2 to start, and full share by year 5, ORWA still comes out way ahead. Additional travel costs is why ORWA were never considering the BIG12. It's not as big a concern for the 4-corner schools, with BYU and our closer proximity to Texas and the midwest.

Its a MIRACLE! AzCatFan2 now thinks we should leave the PAC

Will we get two miracles today??? Where is PHXCATS???

Are you really this fucking stupid?

Tell me once when I said stay you dumb fuck

Its 2 miracles in one day!!

Both AZCatFan2 & PHXCATS are on board!!!

Send the tweet Robbins,

Fuck asu

It was reported that the B1G, which doesn't fuck around like our conference, will up the ante for Udub and Ore to cover those travel expenses so when that issued got QUICKLY RESOLVED the deal was done promptly.

See what strong Leadership gets you?

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:56 am

CopaCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:52 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:48 am

OSUCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:42 am

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:34 am

Neither would I

Would be funny if Utah and Stanford joined the big-12 and ASU was left out.

There is actually some logic in the B12 taking Stanford & SDSU. They would get two West coast teams in the SoCal/Bay area markets

I could see Cal, Stanford, and Utah over us thanks to Crow and ABOR. That tweet about "other options" is not reassuring.

For fuck sake. UA is already approved. Robbins just has to give the final call

I missed that, but you're still a Rooster.

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:54 pm

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We're already voted into the big 12

Just waiting for the official BoR vote, which will get approved with or without asu

Scheer and others have said they don't need ABOR approval

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:45 am

"Pac-9, you are one uuuuuuugly motherfuckah!"

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:11 am Scheer and others have said they don't need ABOR approval

We don't need their approval to leave without asu

We still need a vote from the BOR according to scheer, the vote can't be done in executive session

And now for a musical interlude -

A long, long time ago
I can still remember how the conference
Used to make me smile
And I knew when we had a chance
Winning could make those people dance
And maybe we’d be happy for a while
But realignment made me shiver
With every paper they'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about those widowed brides
Something touched me deep inside
The day our conference died

So, bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

Did you watch the team we love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so?
Now, do you believe in the pick 'n' roll
Can winning save your mortal soul
And can you teach me how to watch real slow?
Well, I know that they're in love with him
'Cause I saw them talkin’ in the gym
They both broke all the rules
Man, I hate those LA schools.
I was a lonely teenage bronckin' buck
With Wildcat nation on my pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day our conference died

So, bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

Now, in the end we’ll be on your own
And moss grows fat on a rollin' stone
But that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the king and queen
He told us no one could guard Kareem
And a voice that came from you and me
Oh, and while he was talking down
The teams who play in truckstop towns
The courtroom was adjourned
A verdict was returned
And while Scott and Geaorge had lots of bark
We had to find a place to park
Or we’d be playing in the dark
The day our conference died

We were singin', bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

Helter skelter in a summer swelter
The teams flew off for a fallout shelter
Nine teams left and falling fast
It landed foul on the grass
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast
Now, the halftime air was sweet perfume
While sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the lawyers tried to take the field
The loyal fans refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day our conference died?

We started singin', bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

Oh, and there we were all in one place
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again
So, come on, Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candlestick
'Cause fire is the Devil's only friend
Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day our conference died

He was singin', bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

I met a girl dressed in red and blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd watched my Cats years before
But the man there said the team wouldn't play
And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three things I admire most
The Father, Son and Salmon’s Ghost
They caught the last train off the coast
The day our conference died

And they were singin', bye-bye, to our piece of the pie
Drove our Chevy to the heavies, but the heavies were dry
And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "This' is how the conference will die
This is how the conference will die"

I dont think they need ABOR approval but if they do, then Monday is the earliest it can be announced and voted on. Need 24 hours notice for a ABOR meeting

This idiot just can't accept reality......sort of like a couple of posters we all know

CatsbyAZ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:04 am The consensus amongst Big Ten fans from another board I frequent is that pursuing Washington/Oregon without first going all out for a combination of FSU/ND/Miami/Clemson/UNC is a BIG MISTAKE. They are hoping that B1G is baiting Washington/Oregon as a smokescreen for poaching from the ACC no matter how locked down those ACC contracts are with ESPN.

Can we get another Sartre or Camus quote? Or for someone just as pessimistic I raise you Arthur Schopenhauer - possibly he was also frustrated by conferences eventually cannibalizing each other:

"The pain in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If you don't believe it, compare the respective feelings of two animals, one of which is eating the other."

Another pearl from Artie: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:19 am This idiot just can't accept reality......sort of like a couple of posters we all know

Must be Luke's sock

There is absolutely zero reason not to have a meeting right now.

See what is said. Cant move anyone until Monday if ABOR approval is needed

The reports of Utah and ASU to Big-12 “picking up” should be changed to “Utah and ASU begging Big-12 to help them.”

Blah, blah, blah.

Can we please seal the fucking deal??!!

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:21 pm Blah, blah, blah.

Can we please seal the fucking deal??!!

Can't until Monday, maybe Tuesday at this rate if ABOR does need to approve

ABOR is waiting for the scummies. They want to approve UA and ASU at the same time. This is all on Michael Crow pulling back. So the ABOR is slow moving now. Still, UA is going to the Big 12 in any case. They don't need the ABOR's permission. They just need to wait for the public vote.

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:11 am Scheer and others have said they don't need ABOR approval

You’re citing Scheer now? Isn’t he one of those fan site bloggers you’re always railing against?

Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:39 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:11 am Scheer and others have said they don't need ABOR approval

You’re citing Scheer now? Isn’t he one of those fan site bloggers you’re always railing against?

Machina's fancy, highly technical descriptor is small dick something something.

I have not seen one mention of:

F@ck ASSU.

Thank you very much. Please continue...

Thank God. This waiting is making me sick.

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:23 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:21 pm Blah, blah, blah.

Can we please seal the fucking deal??!!

Can't until Monday, maybe Tuesday at this rate if ABOR does need to approve

So I was right that ABOR did not need approval

I don't think you want to be keeping score....

What if big12 doesn’t want asu. Then what?

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:08 pm What if big12 doesn’t want asu. Then what?

Absolutely nothing for UA.

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:08 pm What if big12 doesn’t want asu. Then what?

It doesn't matter for the UA, we applied and the Big 12 unanimously accepted the application. We are the 14th team in the league and the first 14 receive a full share. The Cats are going to officially announce the move tomorrow. Who cares what happens to ASU.

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:59 pm So I was right that ABOR did not need approval

“Please clap.”

Trying to find a way out

Is there was a worse "insider" during this whole process?

This was actually from today:

Assuming we are in the 14 team Big 12 now. I rather have San Diego State and Stanford

Order of presence for the last two schools assuming it will go to 16

1) San Diego State
2) Stanford
3) Cal
4) Oregon State
5) UConn
6) Memphis
7) Washington State
8) Tulane
9) UNLV (moves up to #1 if it means Big 12 tournament in Vegas every year)
10) Utah


310) Devry
311) University of Phoenix







666) asu

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:17 pm Is there was a worse "insider" during this whole process?

This was actually from today:

No. He is fine. He reports what he is told. The hate he gets is pathetic and make UA look awful

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:18 pm No. He is fine. He reports what he is told.

Lol that's the problem, he doesn't vett any of it

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:17 pm Assuming we are in the 14 team Big 12 now. I rather have San Diego State and Stanford

Order of presence for the last two schools assuming it will go to 16

1) San Diego State
2) Stanford
3) Cal
4) Oregon State
5) UConn
6) Memphis
7) Washington State
8) Tulane
9) UNLV (moves up to #1 if it means Big 12 tournament in Vegas every year)
10) Utah


310) Devry
311) University of Phoenix







666) asu

Unfortunately asu and Utah are going to come and they're just going to wait out until the acc collapses or wait then out to snag Va tech, Miami, pitt, etc who don't go to the big ten or sec

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:18 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:17 pm Is there was a worse "insider" during this whole process?

This was actually from today:

No. He is fine. He reports what he is told. The hate he gets is pathetic and make UA look awful

I'm not a fan of Scheer's twitter tough guy routine... but he's been correctly all over this for a long time while this guy is nothing but a mouthpiece and has been proven wrong at every turn

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:08 pm What if big12 doesn’t want asu. Then what?

Then we get to laugh hysterically and enjoy the continuous pleasure of watching asu athletics circle the drain in the MWC year after year

Everyone has seen what a gimp Canzano was for the pac. It makes sense machina loves him since he plays the same role here.

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:24 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:18 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:17 pm Is there was a worse "insider" during this whole process?

This was actually from today:

No. He is fine. He reports what he is told. The hate he gets is pathetic and make UA look awful

I'm not a fan of Scheer's twitter tough guy routine... but he's been correctly all over this for a long time while this guy is nothing but a mouthpiece and has been proven wrong at every turn

Looking back over the past year there are only 3 logical conclusions to draw from Canzanos drivel:

1) His sources lied to him (continuously). If that is the case he should out his sources and apologize to his readers (he has not)

2) He has been a willing shill for the PAC12

3) He doesn't have any sources and just made everything up

Its a really bad look no matter which of the above is true. Clownzano has ZERO credibility going forward.