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Cal or Stanford or Oregon State or Washington StateAlieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pmI just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
It's like the argument that if you raise taxes on capital gains investors will stop investing.Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pmI just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
Got it. Sounds like this breaking up of the Pac is going to be good news for these schoolsPHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:16 pmCal or Stanford or Oregon State or Washington StateAlieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pmI just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
They must be ecstatic!Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:21 pmGot it. Sounds like this breaking up of the Pac is going to be good news for these schoolsPHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:16 pmCal or Stanford or Oregon State or Washington StateAlieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pmI just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
The stars going across the nation to Florida, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc were California's tier 1 who Arizona wasn't competing for anyway. Talents like Bryce Young to Alabama and CJ Stroud to Ohio State. We never had a shot with them.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:11 pmTop kids are leaving the state to play for Clemson, Alabama, LSU etc especially in the last few years where the pac 12 quality has gone down.Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pm I just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
They don't want to stay just to stay, if they want to be semi close the 4 corner schools will play with big exposure for them.
In some ways yes in some ways noAlieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:21 pmGot it. Sounds like this breaking up of the Pac is going to be good news for these schoolsPHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:16 pmCal or Stanford or Oregon State or Washington StateAlieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pmI just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
I didn't say otherwise, you actually agreed with meCatsbyAZ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:24 pmThe stars going across the nation to Florida, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc were California's tier 1 who Arizona wasn't competing for anyway. Talents like Bryce Young to Alabama and CJ Stroud to Ohio State. We never had a shot with them.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:11 pmTop kids are leaving the state to play for Clemson, Alabama, LSU etc especially in the last few years where the pac 12 quality has gone down.Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:06 pm I just want to know where people think these kids will be going instead... but no one seems to have an answer for that.
They don't want to stay just to stay, if they want to be semi close the 4 corner schools will play with big exposure for them.
Arizona was always more competitive for California's 2nd and 3rd tier recruits and that won't change because there are so many of them for the taking, and yes, where will they go instead? I don't expect Arizona's recruiting efforts or results to change when it comes to California.
Thank Jeebus
Hard pass on UConnCatintheheat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:37 pm Gonzaga and UConn. Wow! The Cats could have a top 10 team and still be close to .500 in the league. Glad we have ASU, Utah, and Colorado close by. They will be the break between very competitive basketball games with the rest of the conference. We would be loaded with blue blood or close to blue blood teams.
Whew.
This is a very easy thing to say when you're jumping in at this point. But as the situation was evolving with many potentialities it wasn't so clear.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:00 pm
And reading back through this thread today to catch myself up, there are plenty of instances of posters advocating that we stay in the PAC. Only an idiot would try to claim otherwise. And y’all are dumb as rocks. Riding it out in the Pac to maybe get an SEC or B1G invite seven years from now was and remains a monumentally stupid idea.
We were never getting an invite to those conferences idiots, ever.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:03 pmThis is a very easy thing to say when you're jumping in at this point. But as the situation was evolving with many potentialities it wasn't so clear.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:00 pm
And reading back through this thread today to catch myself up, there are plenty of instances of posters advocating that we stay in the PAC. Only an idiot would try to claim otherwise. And y’all are dumb as rocks. Riding it out in the Pac to maybe get an SEC or B1G invite seven years from now was and remains a monumentally stupid idea.
Seems like there were plenty of posters who had no problem saying the same thing as the situation was evolving. Nice try though.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:03 pmThis is a very easy thing to say when you're jumping in at this point. But as the situation was evolving with many potentialities it wasn't so clear.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:00 pm
And reading back through this thread today to catch myself up, there are plenty of instances of posters advocating that we stay in the PAC. Only an idiot would try to claim otherwise. And y’all are dumb as rocks. Riding it out in the Pac to maybe get an SEC or B1G invite seven years from now was and remains a monumentally stupid idea.
In all natural systems, whether social or socio-economic, diversity is fundamentally virtuous and healthy. Plurality cannot be considered bad in principle.
Literally contradicts everything you've said but okay.
I dont think you got what I wss trying to say. Waiting to get a SEC or a B1G invite was a different nuance than the argument for staying in the PAC. The sensibility of staying in the Pac changed as the circumstances evolved.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:18 pmSeems like there were plenty of posters who had no problem saying the same thing as the situation was evolving. Nice try though.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:03 pmThis is a very easy thing to say when you're jumping in at this point. But as the situation was evolving with many potentialities it wasn't so clear.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:00 pm
And reading back through this thread today to catch myself up, there are plenty of instances of posters advocating that we stay in the PAC. Only an idiot would try to claim otherwise. And y’all are dumb as rocks. Riding it out in the Pac to maybe get an SEC or B1G invite seven years from now was and remains a monumentally stupid idea.
Yes, I honestly feel for their fans because they're getting screwed and there's not a damn thing they can do. Wouldn't be opposed if the Big 12 brings them along, but I hope they can land on their feet somewhere. It sucks, but sadly when things like this happens some schools just end up being causalities.azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:22 pm It is a very sad day but one filled with hope. No way to cut it but to say it’s tough when you lost the last 45 years of brotherhood due to leadership that was inept.
While I am happy we found financial footing, I am terribly sad we left behind WAZZU and Oregon St. It really feels like it should have been that no brother should have been left behind but in today’s money grab, to each its own.
I really hope the remaining schools in the PAC can salvage the conference and thrive going forward
In response to CST saying “Fuck we got a good deal. But stay with the pac some of us said…” Machina said “No one said that but okay whatever makes you feel better cupcake.” My response was to the idea no one said stay with the PAC so I don’t know what you’re babbling about.Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:34 pm I dont think you got what I wss trying to say. Waiting to get a SEC or a B1G invite was a different nuance than the argument for staying in the PAC. The sensibility of staying in the Pac changed as the circumstances evolved.
Just wait until day 3. I’ll be comparing people who say obviously stupid untrue shit to fence posts. It’ll be a real humdinger of a day. Stay tuned!Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:34 pmBut don't let that stop.you from calling others dumb as rocks on your second day back. So nice to see you here again.
He was dealt a shitty hand, but he tried to pretend that 2/6 off-suit was a full house.U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:42 pm I kind of feel bad for George K. Could have poached the Big 12 a couple years ago and didn't, tried to ally with acc and big 12 and the B1G only to just get just robbed by 2 of the 3.
I'll do that, good to see you back. Stick around for a while.Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:04 pmHe was dealt a shitty hand, but he tried to pretend that 2/6 off-suit was a full house.U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:42 pm I kind of feel bad for George K. Could have poached the Big 12 a couple years ago and didn't, tried to ally with acc and big 12 and the B1G only to just get just robbed by 2 of the 3.
He should have added Baylor and TCU. He should have taken the Big12 up on their partnership idea. But he was in way over his head and probably should have never taken the job in the first place. I don’t feel bad for him at all. He did nothing to put the conference on the right track to staying relevant and strong. He fucked up, and there are a ton of conference employees who will bear the brunt of his mistakes. Feel bad for them.
For you? Sure!
Hell yes. Indy this year for the Purdue game, Madison next year. And whenever we play Iowa State and Cincy. Can’t wait!U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:02 pmYou going to Madison for the game next year in November?
Sweet, looking forward to it!!Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:06 pmFor you? Sure!
Hell yes. Indy this year for the Purdue game, Madison next year. And whenever we play Iowa State and Cincy. Can’t wait!U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:02 pmYou going to Madison for the game next year in November?
Oh Daddy! The dithering negligence I could accomplish for $10k per day! Somebody give me the opportunity to show you.
Heh heh heh, you know it was the main reason why we kept your barstool pristine with its "Reserved" sign freshly maintained. Seriously, it was tough last season, but we knew that BDW corporate jet perk would tempt you back!