Myles Jack

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:38 am

This student-athlete says "buh-bye, college!" Then again, he was from a football factory.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/high ... loma-mill/" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:13 am

The NFL Scouting Combine is usually in February, so can't imagine he will be ready for it if he is out the whole football year.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:12 pm

That's a stupid article

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:19 pm

I wish we had better emoticons so I could just put some fussy crying baby after every Bug post.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:29 pm

emoji! we need emoji here. i promise not to overuse the poop character

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:42 pm

There is also, a poop emoji on fire, for when the CATS really get curb stomped by ntOSU.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:54 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:I wish we had better emoticons so I could just put some fussy crying baby after every Bug post.

You still mad?

Lol

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:14 pm

MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article

Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:19 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:I wish we had better emoticons so I could just put some fussy crying baby after every Bug post.
You still mad?

Lol

I mean...that is your schtick...to be a fussy whiny bitchy always offended about everything wine and cheese snobby bruin fan.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:41 pm

Another hot take. Thanks! Ironically complaining and bitching about something without actually having a take.

Does this mean you'll both tag team me like you do salty Machina or any other person you hate on the political board? Just let me know so I can plan accordingly!

But at least you stopped complaining about how LA doesn't have traffic! I'll score that as a win for common sense!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:45 pm

gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article
Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.

Not at all. It's an article about a school that name drops Myles Jack. It basically infers Myles didn't do any work while he was there. Unless you want to argue that ucla is easier than a high school. Well, not only easier but to the point where yes makes the Dean's list at ucla but wouldn't become eligible at a normal high school.

Myles testimony is, or at least was, on the testimony section for the school.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:53 pm

so sensitive. and hey, it isn't basketball season yet so the traffic argument isn't valid till november right? people don't show up to ucla football games just because.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:58 pm

I've mobilized the twin defense system.

Oops

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:43 pm

MrBug708 wrote:I've mobilized the twin defense system.

Oops

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh said the whiny ucla fan.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:19 pm

You guys are batting 0-fer the thread in regards to Myles Jack related posts. Maybe the next one won't be Bug themed but actually on topic? I mean, you guys are my biggest fans and resist me, but let's just stop with the ironic posts about whining

I'm surprised you guys haven't quit yet. Isn't that how it goes during anything ucla-arizona?

But this thread is yours. If you want to speak about myles jack, I'm game. If you want to continue your obsession with me, I have nothing more to say here to you. The last word is yours and bases on the pattern, it's going to be scum

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:23 pm

MrBug708 wrote:You guys are batting 0-fer the thread in regards to Myles Jack related posts. Maybe the next one won't be Bug themed but actually on topic? I mean, you guys are my biggest fans and resist me, but let's just stop with the ironic posts about whining

I'm surprised you guys haven't quit yet. Isn't that how it goes during anything ucla-arizona?

But this thread is yours. If you want to speak about myles jack, I'm game. If you want to continue your obsession with me, I have nothing more to say here to you. The last word is yours and bases on the pattern, it's going to be scum

What are your thoughts on Mora's comments? I don't really understand why he said anything, and to criticize the decision comes off as kind of pedestrian. (I generally like Mora, for what it's worth).

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:37 pm

MrBug708 wrote:You guys are batting 0-fer the thread in regards to Myles Jack related posts. Maybe the next one won't be Bug themed but actually on topic? I mean, you guys are my biggest fans and resist me, but let's just stop with the ironic posts about whining

I'm surprised you guys haven't quit yet. Isn't that how it goes during anything ucla-arizona?

But this thread is yours. If you want to speak about myles jack, I'm game. If you want to continue your obsession with me, I have nothing more to say here to you. The last word is yours and bases on the pattern, it's going to be scum

Now this is a whiny post.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:46 pm

Mora's honestly is refreshing, but it does create unncessary talking points. Mora and Jack have known each other since Mora was in Seattle in 2007, I doubt there is anything that Jack would take negatively. I'll link the press conference words at the bottom of this post. Feel free to scan it. Mora states that he's behind him and will support him either way. I think Mora could have worded it differently. He's yet to embrace the ABR. Always be Recruiting. His sound bytes would have traveled across the country today and he could have talked about how prepared Myles will be for the draft after spending time at UCLA (et al). Mora expressed some concerns, but I didn't see the arrogance and dismissiveness that Carroll displayed at Sanchez's PC. Carroll was visibly irritated, almost like he felt affronted by Sanchez ignoring his advice.

But I think this press conference is more about Eddie Vanderdoes, who has the same decision to think through and isn't quite the first round lock that Jack will be. And this does hurt the APR as Jack doesnt finish the quarter in good standing, which sucks because he's been on the Dean's List at UCLA.

Jack is going to kill it at the combine though, provided his knee holds up
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Jim Mora on Myles Jack.

What was your reaction?

My focus right now is on this football team and the guys that are playing. I don’t have much reaction to it. I had a feeling it might be coming. I’ve talked to his mom a lot, she’s very influential with him, and I think they’ve thought it over as a family and feel like that’s the best thing. But other than that I don’t really have a reaction other than making sure he knows that I’ve always been there to support him and I care about him very much.

Did you solicit any information for him from your NFL contacts at any point?

No. My personal opinion is I think he’s a tremendous football player and a tremendous athlete. I think it’s very risky to do this. Having been on that side, there’s going to be a lot of speculation as to what position he plays and where he fits. And as I told Myles on Sunday, NFL teams are very, very conservative, and if there’s any question whatsoever, they’ll pass on you in a hearbeat. They’re going to take the sure thing. I explained that to him but I feel like they’d already made their decision. And so like I said, I hope it works out best for him. But as a guy that’s spent half of my life in the NFL, I would move with great caution. And I would tell that to all our players.

Did you think he’d leave this year anyway?

If he played all year I was thinking that we wouldn’t (have him for next year). But when you only play in three games, and that’s all the tape they have on you for your junior year, you know I’ve been in 25 draft rooms and I’ve never seen a guy taken off of that. So I worry about that for him. Because like I said I have a very personal relationship with Myles and his family and his mom and his little brother. We’ve very close. Obviously I want the best for him and I hope it all works out in a way that he plans for it to work out, I really do. And I think that he’ll get himself in great shape and get ready and get rehab and perform well at the combine and perform well in his individual workouts. It’s just a matter of: Do the scouts have enough game film to go off of? And they may, they may not. I mean that’s their decision, not mine. I just know that I’ve never seen it, so it’s kind of a new role for me. Pro coaches and pro scouts want to see tape. They want to see football. Myles, his talent is without question. He’s extremely talented, incredible athlete, plays with great energy and great passion, and great emotion, and can do so many different things. I hope that he’s put enough out there that they can get a true evaluation, because if they can’t, they’re not going to take you. They’re just not, they don’t take on speculation in the first round. Maybe in later rounds, you can take a flyer on a guy, but there’s no such thing as an NFL GM who takes a flyer on a first rounder. I’ve never heard that.

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:11 pm

^ not nearly as controversial when seen/heard in its entirety. Thanks

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:17 pm

Myles also took out a 5 million dollar policy before this past season. It's a first round guarantee policy so if he falls out of the first round, he can collect. So coming back really doesnt do anything for him

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:07 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Myles also took out a 5 million dollar policy before this past season. It's a first round guarantee policy so if he falls out of the first round, he can collect. So coming back really doesn't do anything for him

Bug, I don't blame Myles Jack for looking out for # 1. All of these kids in all sports are just pieces of meat to the universities to make millions.

Additionally most fans still cling to the nonsense that any modern day college sports, especially football and basketball are still amateur in nature.

I just laugh at that shallow nonsense.

Myles Jack looking out for Myles Jack is precisely what he should be doing.

Modern day universities are just like the military. When your time is done or your body is broken and used up, you become invisible and unknown to them.

F**k the schools APR too, football and basketball star athletes don't owe the schools anything with everyone getting rich with million dollar contracts on the backs of kids.

Gronk was right in doing what he did and I hope Scooby looks out for himself as well because Scooby is much more of a tweener and not a sure fire NFL'r as much as some think.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:11 pm

Good take. I dont have a problem with him leaving. He was going to leave anyways at the end of the season

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:20 pm

Bug my basic point was this kid at the age of 19-20 years old has already damaged his body and the school and coaches made millions while he was wearing their colors. Granted he did it doing something he loves to do, but this will effect him when he gets older for sure.

Guys like Mora and all the rest of these massively paid coaches don't get any tears from me.

Myles Jack bank account probably has $20 dollars in it while an asshat like Mora's likely has $20 Million in it.

So Mora may have an APR issue.........deal with it!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:22 pm

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:24 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Ok

Bug I'm not picking on UCLA. This applies across the board for me.

You can plug in any school name you want.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:32 pm

I know. None of this is groundbreaking and I agree with it all

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:48 pm

So Jack gets 5M if he drops out of the first round but can still get drafted and make decent bank. Sounds like the perfect decision to me. I think I would love to be a second round pick in his situation. Win both ways

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:47 am

http://gojoebruin.com/2015/10/06/myles- ... the-press/" target="_blank

Pretty good read on the whole Mora/Jack thing. Mora probably could use some prep time before speaking to see how he could spin things when speaking. He's never going to live down the Olindo Mare thing. You reap what you sow I suppose

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:28 am

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:29 am

MrBug708 wrote:
gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article
Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.
Not at all. It's an article about a school that name drops Myles Jack. It basically infers Myles didn't do any work while he was there. Unless you want to argue that ucla is easier than a high school. Well, not only easier but to the point where yes makes the Dean's list at ucla but wouldn't become eligible at a normal high school.

Myles testimony is, or at least was, on the testimony section for the school.

He's a dropout.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:55 am

At the end of the day UCLA is no different than ASSU or the UofA. They will do anything to key the high profile key players alive and well and eligible on paper.

Remember this is not amateur athletics. Major college sports is semi-professional entertainment in every way. And the millions that flow to the schools must be protected at all costs.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:18 am

Gladiator Cat wrote:At the end of the day UCLA is no different than ASSU or the UofA. They will do anything to key the high profile key players alive and well and eligible on paper.

Remember this is not amateur athletics. Major college sports is semi-professional entertainment in every way. And the millions that flow to the schools must be protected at all costs.

Yup....and it is cute when the bruin fans think that it is somehow special or different with them... as they talk about UCLA with their noses up in the air.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:27 am

gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article
Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.
Not at all. It's an article about a school that name drops Myles Jack. It basically infers Myles didn't do any work while he was there. Unless you want to argue that ucla is easier than a high school. Well, not only easier but to the point where yes makes the Dean's list at ucla but wouldn't become eligible at a normal high school.

Myles testimony is, or at least was, on the testimony section for the school.
He's a dropout.

College? Ya. He was on Mike and Mike this morning and said the crutches made it hard to get to all his classes. He also said he was going to rehab and train in Arizona

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:27 am

gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article
Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.
Not at all. It's an article about a school that name drops Myles Jack. It basically infers Myles didn't do any work while he was there. Unless you want to argue that ucla is easier than a high school. Well, not only easier but to the point where yes makes the Dean's list at ucla but wouldn't become eligible at a normal high school.

Myles testimony is, or at least was, on the testimony section for the school.
He's a dropout.

College? Ya. He was on Mike and Mike this morning and said the crutches made it hard to get to all his classes. He also said he was going to rehab and train in Arizona

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:28 am

Gladiator Cat wrote:At the end of the day UCLA is no different than ASSU or the UofA. They will do anything to key the high profile key players alive and well and eligible on paper.

Remember this is not amateur athletics. Major college sports is semi-professional entertainment in every way. And the millions that flow to the schools must be protected at all costs.

Ucla did a crappy job on keeping players healthy and eligible this season

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:13 am

MrBug708 wrote:
gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
gumby wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's a stupid article
Another "media is against us" post. You are consistent.
Not at all. It's an article about a school that name drops Myles Jack. It basically infers Myles didn't do any work while he was there. Unless you want to argue that ucla is easier than a high school. Well, not only easier but to the point where yes makes the Dean's list at ucla but wouldn't become eligible at a normal high school.

Myles testimony is, or at least was, on the testimony section for the school.
He's a dropout.
College? Ya. He was on Mike and Mike this morning and said the crutches made it hard to get to all his classes. He also said he was going to rehab and train in Arizona

Come on, Bug, is this the student-athlete version of "there's too much traffic to get to Pauley on time"?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:35 am

You're right. Let me track down Myles Jack and let him know he's full of shit and to come up with more reasons.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:41 am

MrBug708 wrote:You're right. Let me track down Myles Jack and let him know he's full of shit and to come up with more reasons.

Shouldn't be tough. The crutches apparently render him incapable of leaving his home.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:04 am

I was on crutches for three months of my Junior year, I was able to make it to class just fine. Arizona's campus must be more handicap accessible, seems like an ADA issue in Westwood.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:14 am

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:38 am

MrBug708 wrote:You're right. Let me track down Myles Jack and let him know he's full of shit and to come up with more reasons.

Actually, I was being nice asking a question and not pulling the predictable snark like most of the other posters.

I wasn't trying to be "right" or "wrong" about anything, so you went there instead of just sharing what you thought about the situation.

I just find it hard to believe you and other UCLA fans would accept that as an excuse for any player dropping out of school before getting his diploma. Maybe I'm giving you guys too much credit, though.

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:08 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:You're right. Let me track down Myles Jack and let him know he's full of shit and to come up with more reasons.
Actually, I was being nice asking a question and not pulling the predictable snark like most of the other posters.

I wasn't trying to be "right" or "wrong" about anything, so you went there instead of just sharing what you thought about the situation.

I just find it hard to believe you and other UCLA fans would accept that as an excuse for any player dropping out of school before getting his diploma. Maybe I'm giving you guys too much credit, though.

What does it matter if UCLA fans accept it? The kid is going pro. There are plenty of reasons for him to make this move. Whether fans accept it or not is a irrelevant. The kid gave them 2+ years of lights out football, and attracted tons of positive attention to the program. Where is the controversy?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:52 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:You're right. Let me track down Myles Jack and let him know he's full of shit and to come up with more reasons.
Actually, I was being nice asking a question and not pulling the predictable snark like most of the other posters.

I wasn't trying to be "right" or "wrong" about anything, so you went there instead of just sharing what you thought about the situation.

I just find it hard to believe you and other UCLA fans would accept that as an excuse for any player dropping out of school before getting his diploma. Maybe I'm giving you guys too much credit, though.

It doesn't bother me that he left school. He wasn't coming back this season and he was never staying for his 4th year. The only thing that changes is the effect on APR and he'll be in the stands instead of the sideline

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:06 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:30 pm

Cant imagine he'll be back.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:23 pm

I don't see anything wrong with that Jack decided to do. He was gone after this year anyways, so why not spend every waking hour trying get better and in football shape for the draft?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:31 am

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