Bear Down Wildcats

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:57 pm I thought for sure this thread bump was going to be about Trout’s check swing homer. Dude’s triceps could stop a bullet.

it was a quarter swing triple last night - my son said as he lumbered around the bases:

"he sure doesnt run like hes 22 anymore, dad"

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realistic players Mike Trout could pass this year in his age 30 season if he stays injury free for the first time since the 2016 season (already passed Ozzie Smith this year) in Wins Above Replacement (WAR) all-time:

32. Chipper Jones - 85.3
33. George Davis - 84.9
34. Charlie Gehringer - 84.8
35. Roger Connor - 84.3
36. Ken Griffey Jr. - 83.8
37. Rod Carew - 81.2
38. Jeff Bagwell - 79.9
39. Dan Brouthers - 79.8
40. Pete Rose - 79.6
41. Joe DiMaggio - 79.2
42. Brooks Robinson - 78.5
43. Arky Vaughan - 78.0
44. Luke Appling - 77.6
45. Robin Yount - 77.4
44. Mike Trout - 77.1
45. Ozzie Smith - 76.9

That is crazy considering he is only 30 years old and missed essentially the 75% of the last two seasons due to injury and Covid season shortening.

Monday Update (5/2/22)

32. Chipper Jones - 85.3
33. George Davis - 84.9
34. Charlie Gehringer - 84.8
35. Roger Connor - 84.3
36. Ken Griffey Jr. - 83.8
37. Rod Carew - 81.2
38. Jeff Bagwell - 79.9
39. Dan Brouthers - 79.8
40. Pete Rose - 79.6
41. Joe DiMaggio - 79.2
42. Brooks Robinson - 78.5
43. Mike Trout - 78.0
43. Arky Vaughan - 78.0
45. Luke Appling - 77.6
46. Robin Yount - 77.4
47. Ozzie Smith - 76.9
48. Paul Molitor - 75.6

worst stretch at the plate ive ever seen for Trout since he broke in to the bigs.

he was first in everything on May 23 and the team was flying high.....then he went six for his next forty-six!!! including hitless in his last twenty-six at bats (till he broke out last night) to drop from a .323avg to .274.

his every precious and unstoppable WAR stat (this season) went down from 3.0 to 2.5 - an almost unthinkable occurrence

for the first time in his career hes being slowed by something other than an injury.

Are we sure it’s not an injury? Something small & nagging?

I thought he looked uncomfortable as fuck both at the plate and in the field against the Yankees. Like he was trying to play through a stiff back or oblique strain. But I’m not a doctor…

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:30 pm Are we sure it’s not an injury? Something small & nagging?

I thought he looked uncomfortable as fuck both at the plate and in the field against the Yankees. Like he was trying to play through a stiff back or oblique strain. But I’m not a doctor…

i am not a doc either so maybe but to me at this stage if it is an injury then i will be very disappointed. he by all accounts has been healthy and in tip-top shape.

word from the Angels to the fans was that he coulda come back last year but they held him back to make sure and give him a full off-season to heal. if he has a calf or a hip or a butt cheek or whatever i will be pretty bummed, he hasnt played more than 150 games since 2016 and thats a terrible stat.

he did play last night and looked fine physically.. .i felt like his timing was off a bit during that stretch and he was late often but admittedly i didnt anticipate him losing his timing for almost fifty plate appearances.

leader in WAR today is 3.3 - Trout had a 3.0 WAR on May 21st - the oddity of it is what strikes me, it hasnt happened before to him, he doesnt slump.

its insane that last stat to put into context but i hope he snaps back - baseball is the most humbling sport on the planet and we are seeing a live snap of that to arguably one of the greatest ever.

fascinating

97cats wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:49 pm
word from the Angels to the fans was that he coulda come back last year but they held him back to make sure and give him a full off-season to heal. if he has a calf or a hip or a butt cheek or whatever i will be pretty bummed, he hasnt played more than 150 games since 2016 and thats a terrible stat.

and there it is......

oddly, his WAR climbed back up to 2.8 after going 2-2 with a HR&2B last night putting him just 0.4 behind the MLB leader had he had a normal trajectory and cut out the 6-46 his WAR would be north of 4 for the season so far...

and yet here we are again, now with a hurt crotch

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97cats wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:03 am
and yet here we are again, now with a hurt crotch

I think that's the same injury Deshaun Watson claims to have every time he goes for a massage.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:05 am
I think that's the same injury Deshaun Watson claims to have every time he goes for a massage.

Mia Khalifa is not being paged

I would really really like the world to see Trout and Ohtani play in mid-October. And I thought this would be the season it happened.

good time to check back in and revisit that all-time WAR list.

the interesting thing to me in this run is that Trout surpassed the all time leader in WAR in the the fewest years played (Joe DiMaggio #42 All-Time) who posted an all time WAR of 79.2 in the fewest seasons, thirteen, and was a first ballot Hall of Famer while playing 1,736 games - Trout is currently inside his 12th season and has played 1,345 games.

for context - Pete Rose sits one slot ahead of DiMaggio at #41 All-Time (79.6) - Rose played 3,562 games over 24 seasons (more than double the 'Yankee Clipper') and had a whopping 8,218 more plate appearances than DiMaggio to amass essentially the same career.

Trout has passed them both

just thirty years old, Trout has 1,777 less plate appearances than DiMaggio did in his career and 9,995 less than Rose all while playing a combined 3,953 less games than the aforementioned.

Wins Above Replacement (WAR) ALL-Time

32. Chipper Jones - 85.3
33. George Davis - 84.9
34. Charlie Gehringer - 84.8
35. Roger Connor - 84.3
36. Ken Griffey Jr. - 83.8
37. Rod Carew - 81.2
38. Jeff Bagwell - 79.9
39. Dan Brouthers - 79.8
40. Mike Trout - 79.7
41. Pete Rose - 79.6
42. Joe DiMaggio - 79.2
43. Brooks Robinson - 78.5
44. Arky Vaughan - 78.0
45. Luke Appling - 77.6
46. Robin Yount - 77.4
47. Ozzie Smith - 76.9
48. Paul Molitor - 75.6

He just has to avoid injuries and make sure that this year's prolonged slump was just an anomaly.