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Men's Game 8: PENN (4-2) at #14/14 ARIZONA (7-0)
Date: Friday, Nov. 29
Time: 9:30 p.m. (MST)
Location: Anaheim, Calif. - Anaheim Arena (7,500)
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12 point favorites. I would assume they slow it down. Have to check the total number. I think we play well. 9:30 tip, hate the late starts. What is this, football
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So if we win, do we play at 10pm on Sunday? :lol:
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when I google the game tonight, google tells me it's on at 9pm mst.
but the game article and game notes and bball's twitter still list it as 930 so i'mma assume 930 is still correct
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Yeah they are early in the 2nd half of the Pepperdine game now.
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I hope our game is as boring as this Ok St./Ole Miss game.
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College basketball needs a mercy rule like softball has. Just an awful terrible game in front on no one.
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Why is Jeter still starting?
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Pepperdine was 5-24 from three in their loss today...

... tired teams miss jumpers
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Another slow start. Let's fucking go!
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Well if you're going to make stupid foul, at least he only shoots 64%
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AZCatGirl wrote:Why is Jeter still starting?
No reason...

.. except he’s 3-3 and has AZ’s only rebound.
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nnaji knocks down nico, and penn gets called for a foul?

lmfao refs suck
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Of course Jeter does better after I call him out. :lol:
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I'm 100% okay if Penn wants to just start chucking 3s.
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That guy Broder looking to grad transfer? We could use someone like him haha
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So Pepperdine lost to UCF 78-65. Just crazy. We must have worn them out. Right now we look bigger, more physical and much quicker than Penn
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The Penn coach subscribes to the Sean Miller style of calling timeouts
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Not a charge
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fucking refs are blind not seeing the guy who draws the "charge" is standing on the fucking restricted circle line
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I love having multiple good three-point shooters!!!
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Jeter taking advantage of the double team on Zeke.
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Penn taking advantage of Green
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We suck at fouling apparently
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Jeter out there yucking it up.
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This is like going to the dentist
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This is miserable.
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These refs are auditioning for PAC-12 jobs...
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WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
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Much better half. Let's put them away in the 2nd.
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There's not enough 3 point lines out there.
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pc in NM wrote:These refs are auditioning for PAC-12 jobs...
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Love how the Penn guy just blows past everyone for easy dunk
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I'll take an 8 point lead at the half givin our slow sections that half.
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WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many? There is a reason why Lee was out there for a lot of the first half.
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WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many?
Chase is faster than Gettings, but not by a ton. Brodeur is 3 for 10, so we're not doing too bad on him in aggregate.
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It’s just shocking how many catastrophic defensive breakdowns we have. I guess the upside is that they are brain problems more than body problems . . . so maybe this can be fixed? :?
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WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many? There is a reason why Lee was out there for a lot of the first half.
I agree that he, and a few others on this team so far, has defensive liabilities...

... but “out there yucking it up” is not accurate for his contributions so far tonite.
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pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many? There is a reason why Lee was out there for a lot of the first half.
I agree that he, and a few others on this team so far, has defensive liabilities...

... but “out there yucking it up” is not accurate for his contributions so far tonite.
Maybe he meant fucking it up.

Just trying to be helpful here. :lol:
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pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many? There is a reason why Lee was out there for a lot of the first half.
I agree that he, and a few others on this team so far, has defensive liabilities...

... but “out there yucking it up” is not accurate for his contributions so far tonite.
When he blows past Jeter, other players have to help, this leads to opportunities for the other players on Penn. Brodeur leads his team in assists. Oh well.
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Seems we've always been vulnerable to a drive across the top of the paint and down the far lane. Opponents seem to have a Stapley and we only occasionally have a Nick Johnson.
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If we can't hedge on screens against Penn and Pepperdine without giving up easy buckets....what the hell kind of chance do we have of making that work against the Oregons/Gonzagas of the world??

I think Miller needs to rethink parts of his defense.
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Yes, I would love to see Brodeur as a grad transfer. Penn is shit without him on the floor
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God, such beautiful offensive basketball. They look like pros out there.
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WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
WildcatStunner wrote:Jeter out there yucking it up.
He’s leading the team in points, is 4-4 and leads in rebounds...
He is also letting Brodeur blow past him on defense. So you tell me what is better, leading in points or surrendering just as many? There is a reason why Lee was out there for a lot of the first half.
I agree that he, and a few others on this team so far, has defensive liabilities...

... but “out there yucking it up” is not accurate for his contributions so far tonite.
When he blows past Jeter, other players have to help, this leads to opportunities for the other players on Penn. Brodeur leads his team in assists. Oh well.
Agreed - Brodeur is a smart player, and their offense runs through him...

... benched with four fouls, they should have major difficulty now.
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dmjcat wrote:If we can't hedge on screens against Penn and Pepperdine without giving up easy buckets....what the hell kind of chance do we have of making that work against the Oregons/Gonzagas of the world??

I think Miller needs to rethink parts of his defense.
Which part is bothering you more . . . The 37% fg percentage or the 17% 3pt percentage?
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The part where plays stops and there’s a commercial.
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phxcat23 wrote:The part where plays stops and there’s a commercial.
Bastards. Almost like they plan it that way.
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ByJoveByJingle wrote:
dmjcat wrote:If we can't hedge on screens against Penn and Pepperdine without giving up easy buckets....what the hell kind of chance do we have of making that work against the Oregons/Gonzagas of the world??

I think Miller needs to rethink parts of his defense.
Which part is bothering you more . . . The 37% fg percentage or the 17% 3pt percentage?
The out of position, lack of communication/anticipation, and easy buckets are concerning to me
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Frybry02 wrote:
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
dmjcat wrote:If we can't hedge on screens against Penn and Pepperdine without giving up easy buckets....what the hell kind of chance do we have of making that work against the Oregons/Gonzagas of the world??

I think Miller needs to rethink parts of his defense.
Which part is bothering you more . . . The 37% fg percentage or the 17% 3pt percentage?
The out of position, lack of communication/anticipation, and easy buckets are concerning to me
The catastrophic breakdowns are frustrating and concerning. But they still only count for 2 points despite drawing lots of attention to themselves. But that means they are playing good D when they don’t throw a shoe.
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