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Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm
by pc in NM
That fucking ref changed a foul call (an obvious foul!!) to a jump…

Johnson should have gone after the ref!!

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
God hates me.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:44 pm
by Beachcat97
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
God hates me.
The older I get, the more I know I'm going to treat our next Final Four like our last one. Ever.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:44 pm
by pc in NM
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
God hates me.
Damn you!!!

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:45 pm
by pc in NM
No center!!

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:45 pm
by dmjcat
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
Too many stupid turnovers
Too many missed bunnies
Too many missed FT's
Can't buy a 3 point shot
Playing crappy defense against the 3 point shot (we continue to stink against the high ball screen)

And most of all.....we are not playing with any intensity. Oregon State wants this game more than we do

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:46 pm
by Beachcat97
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:45 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
Too many stupid turnovers
Too many missed bunnies
Too many missed FT's
Can't buy a 3 point shot
Playing crappy defense against the 3 point shot (we continue to stink against the high ball screen)

And most of all.....we are not playing with any intensity. Oregon State wants this game more than we do
I'm not hearing any criticism of our coaches. Is that because our coaches are awesome but our players have checked out?

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:46 pm
by Merkin
The Athletic was right, this team is not going far in the tourney. Might even not win the last Pac tourney.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:47 pm
by Beachcat97
Merkin wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:46 pm The Athletic was right, this team is not going far in the tourney. Might even not win the last Pac tourney.
I was convinced we weren't winning the Pac tourney after the WSU loss.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm
by AZCatGirl
Do we really want to win the tourney?

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm
by KaibabKat
When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm
by 84Cat
Shit

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm
by dovecanyoncat
When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:52 pm
by Beachcat97
KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
I see that. I really didn't anticipate having major (potentially season-jeopardizing) PG issues by mid-season.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
by dmjcat
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
by 84Cat
KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
And he's our weakest defender

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
by dovecanyoncat
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
by pc in NM
AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm Do we really want to win the tourney?
That is not even in the discussion now. We’ve got issues.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:55 pm
by AzCatFan2
We might not win another game outside McKale. And OSU is another team shooting over 50% from 3. One team doing it is an anomaly. But I think this is the 3rd or 4th time against us so far this year. Our D is just bad.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:55 pm
by Beachcat97
84Cat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
And he's our weakest defender
He also had back to back games with 5 steals earlier this season. You just don't know what you're getting from night to night with him.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:55 pm
by dovecanyoncat
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.
Even with Ballo out of the play the dribble isn't stopped or the shooter is open on the perimeter.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:55 pm
by Merkin
53% 3 pt for the Beavs. UA had to be around 200th in 3 point defense

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:56 pm
by Lute4God
At least KJ and Love fearless...

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:58 pm
by dovecanyoncat
We break down into iso drives without good action setups.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:58 pm
by Beachcat97
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:58 pm We break down into iso drives without good action setups.
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a coaching issue.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:00 pm
by dmjcat
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.
You won't get any argument from me. We should switch every high ball screen......except when Ballo is on the screener when we should hedge it hard. The way we play it now is too passive. We let the shooter turn the corner and get a wide open look almost every time. This is one area that is on the coaches

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 pm
by pc in NM
Can’t stop that

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 pm
by Fishclamps
Sure Boswell just chuck up some 40 footers

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 pm
by SCCats
Comedy

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:02 pm
by 84Cat
Beavs raining 3s

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:02 pm
by Chicat
Why do I stay up this late to watch us play on the road? It’s like I enjoy torturing myself.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:02 pm
by AZCatGirl
Boswell shouldn't be playing the rest of the game.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm
by UAEebs86
What a joke

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm
by MrKyle
Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm
by dmjcat
Need to get Ballo out and go to small ball now.......let Keshad play center.

And get Boswell out. I would rather have Martinez on the floot.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm
by Postmaster
Fishclamps wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 pm Sure Boswell just chuck up some 40 footers
I posted last week, his range is at the arc, no further than that.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:04 pm
by AzCatFan2
Our 3 point D is the most pathetic I've ever seen. And we play dumb basketball on the road. Like I said before, wouldn't shock me if we don't win another game away from McKale this year. Including Vegas and the Big Dance. We're just too soft, too bad on D, and make brainless turnovers at the worst times.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:05 pm
by Fishclamps
Sure take Lewis out but leave Boswell in

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:05 pm
by MrKyle
Can’t buy a 3 for us…

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:05 pm
by AZCatGirl
I'm so confused what Tommy is thinking.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:06 pm
by Beachcat97
MrKyle wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3
This has been theme with our defense that precedes the Lloyd era.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:07 pm
by 84Cat
Sure fall away 3 over Ballo, all net

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:07 pm
by pc in NM
The Beavers are doing to us what we did to UCLA last week!

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:07 pm
by Beachcat97
We were 18.5 point favorites in this game.

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:07 pm
by dmjcat
We FINALLY hedged a screen on that last play..........it took Lloyd 18 minutes to make that decision

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:08 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Chicat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:02 pm Why do I stay up this late to watch us play on the road? It’s like I enjoy torturing myself.
Because bourbon taste best with a large splash of agony

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:09 pm
by MrKyle
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:06 pm
MrKyle wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3
This has been theme with our defense that precedes the Lloyd era.
Yea… lots of miller teams as well unfortunately

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:10 pm
by pc in NM
I’m outa here. Fuck this!

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:10 pm
by AZCatGirl
I wonder if any reporter will ask Tommy why he trusts the wrong players in crunch time. Why not play the guys who have been playing well?

Re: (M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:10 pm
by Fishclamps
Embarrassing to get baited into that foul