Bear Down Wildcats

Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:20 am I like the Terry/Walton comparison. Neither guy really scares defenses with their straight line drives. Walton used to angle his drives, stop, switch to a post-up and then hit turnaround 15ft jumpers. I’d love to see Terry add something like that to his game. If he can reliably create for himself, his passing will become even more effective because teams will have that uncertainty of whether he’s going to take the shot or if he’s setting up a cutter on the other side of the lane.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:29 amAnd Terry is much more athletic than Walton ever was.

Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:20 am I like the Terry/Walton comparison. Neither guy really scares defenses with their straight line drives. Walton used to angle his drives, stop, switch to a post-up and then hit turnaround 15ft jumpers. I’d love to see Terry add something like that to his game. If he can reliably create for himself, his passing will become even more effective because teams will have that uncertainty of whether he’s going to take the shot or if he’s setting up a cutter on the other side of the lane.

Chicat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:53 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:29 amAnd Terry is much more athletic than Walton ever was.

I mean, maybe a little. But Terry isn’t a guy who is jumping out of the gym blocking shots, nor is he exceptionally strong or fast. I think the athleticism gap between Terry and Mathurin is bigger than the gap between him and Walton.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:08 am Here's the thing about RJ. He took comparable numbers of threes as a freshman and sophomore and actually shot a significantly better % than Terry (36% as a freshman, 42% as a soph vs DT's 32% and 36%).

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:35 pm Re: the Bileass post.
Could someone explain how widening the lane affects the game?
Let’s exclude free throw situation.
During my regular game play it’s just arbitrary tape on floor.
I guess 3 second call but those are pretty rare.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:19 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:35 pm Re: the Bileass post.
Could someone explain how widening the lane affects the game?
Let’s exclude free throw situation.
During my regular game play it’s just arbitrary tape on floor.
I guess 3 second call but those are pretty rare.

The wider the lane, the more teams have to emphasize movement and sets that clear the lane. This in turn means emphasis on spread spacing and pulling bigger players away from the rim, which creates more driving lanes.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:58 pm Need to add defensive three seconds as well

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:11 am Spiff put it nicely: RJ was a dunk contest guy. He probably had a 40" vertical, or higher. Terry is very athletic too, but not as bouncy and explosive as RJ.

As far as shooting, RJ took a little while to get his shot, but once he did, he was off and running. He was a good long and mid range shooter in college and the pros. I haven't seen that kind of shooting versatility from Terry yet, but he's still quite young.

I like the comparisons of DT with Luke, and also with Iggy. These are Swiss army knife players: they can do almost anything.

MountainCat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:42 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:11 am Spiff put it nicely: RJ was a dunk contest guy. He probably had a 40" vertical, or higher. Terry is very athletic too, but not as bouncy and explosive as RJ.

As far as shooting, RJ took a little while to get his shot, but once he did, he was off and running. He was a good long and mid range shooter in college and the pros. I haven't seen that kind of shooting versatility from Terry yet, but he's still quite young.

I like the comparisons of DT with Luke, and also with Iggy. These are Swiss army knife players: they can do almost anything.

He had a 44 inch vertical

TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:32 amNick Johnson

KaibabKat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:42 am Gary Harrison - a guard from the Snowden years that jumped center to start games.

Chicat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:01 pm Never saw anyone jump like Hassan. He was listed at 6’4” and wasn’t close to that and yet he still played minutes at the PF in smaller lineups. Just an insane athlete.

84Cat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:21 pmChase Budinger

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:27 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:19 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:35 pm Re: the Bileass post.
Could someone explain how widening the lane affects the game?
Let’s exclude free throw situation.
During my regular game play it’s just arbitrary tape on floor.
I guess 3 second call but those are pretty rare.

The wider the lane, the more teams have to emphasize movement and sets that clear the lane. This in turn means emphasis on spread spacing and pulling bigger players away from the rim, which creates more driving lanes.

Sorry, still don’t get how the size of lane does this? Or is this based off of 3 second rule?

What stops you from doing this spacing and movement now?

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:27 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:19 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:35 pm Re: the Bileass post.
Could someone explain how widening the lane affects the game?
Let’s exclude free throw situation.
During my regular game play it’s just arbitrary tape on floor.
I guess 3 second call but those are pretty rare.

The wider the lane, the more teams have to emphasize movement and sets that clear the lane. This in turn means emphasis on spread spacing and pulling bigger players away from the rim, which creates more driving lanes.

Sorry, still don’t get how the size of lane does this? Or is this based off of 3 second rule?

What stops you from doing this spacing and movement now?

dmjcat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:00 am Key dates for declaring for the draft, withdrawing from the draft, etc.

And I presume that the NCAA/IARP will finally get their act together and whack us sometime before the season starts.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-draft-2022 ... 26703.html

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:03 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:00 am Key dates for declaring for the draft, withdrawing from the draft, etc.

And I presume that the NCAA/IARP will finally get their act together and whack us sometime before the season starts.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-draft-2022 ... 26703.html

Whatever whacking it may be, I don't expect any postseason ban, given what's happened with other equally egregious offenders, and given that we already self-imposed a ban in '21.

I expect scholarship reductions for a year or two.

Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 pm https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... gs-2022-23

This is another ranking that can fluctuate wildly in the coming weeks. For now, we're assuming Bennedict Mathurin is certainly gone, while Christian Koloko and Jalen Terry are also projected to be picked in ESPN's latest mock draft. If Tommy Lloyd loses all three players, this ranking might look a little high. If either Koloko or Terry returns, then we could see the Wildcats rise. Arizona was clearly not the same team without a fully healthy Kerr Kriisa, but he and Pelle Larsson should form a quality backcourt -- while Azuolas Tubelis and Oumar Ballo will continue to give Arizona a size advantage over most teams up front. The question is on the wing, where Adama Bal could be poised for a huge step forward.

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:22 am This is a great lineup of teams. Very curious as to who will still be on the team as upperclassmen when this rolls around.

Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:50 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:18 pm

Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 pm https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... gs-2022-23

This is another ranking that can fluctuate wildly in the coming weeks. For now, we're assuming Bennedict Mathurin is certainly gone, while Christian Koloko and Jalen Terry are also projected to be picked in ESPN's latest mock draft. If Tommy Lloyd loses all three players, this ranking might look a little high. If either Koloko or Terry returns, then we could see the Wildcats rise. Arizona was clearly not the same team without a fully healthy Kerr Kriisa, but he and Pelle Larsson should form a quality backcourt -- while Azuolas Tubelis and Oumar Ballo will continue to give Arizona a size advantage over most teams up front. The question is on the wing, where Adama Bal could be poised for a huge step forward.

Wouldn't mind losing Jalen to the draft, been a black hole for this team the whole time.

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:02 pm

Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:50 pm

That's so dumb

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AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:03 am Latest draft projections all have Benn as a lottery pick. He's gone. This projection, from the NBA, has Koloko as the 1st pick in the 2nd round. (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/). If Koloko is at his peak draft position, then he's likely gone too, unless he wants to graduate. Maybe Koloko can work his way next year into a guaranteed first rounder? But maybe not, especially given he'll be 3 or 4 years older than many other guys in the draft. The more time goes by, it looks like Koloko entering the draft now is his best decision.

No mention of Terry anywhere I can find on mock draft boards. On his NBA draft profile, DT is listed as mid to late second round if he were to declare this year (https://nbadraftroom.com/dalen-terry/). But unlike Koloko, Terry absolutely can improve his draft stock with one more year. The biggest difference between DT and Benn is about 15 pounds of muscle. Benn already has a NBA body. DT still needs more if he is going to bang with the professionals. Benn also shot 38% from 3 this past year, and Terry 36%. Not much of a difference, but with Benn gone, there will be more shots available, and if Terry can hit 38% or better, and average 12 ppg, that makes Terry a potential lottery pick next year.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:18 am

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:03 am Latest draft projections all have Benn as a lottery pick. He's gone. This projection, from the NBA, has Koloko as the 1st pick in the 2nd round. (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/). If Koloko is at his peak draft position, then he's likely gone too, unless he wants to graduate. Maybe Koloko can work his way next year into a guaranteed first rounder? But maybe not, especially given he'll be 3 or 4 years older than many other guys in the draft. The more time goes by, it looks like Koloko entering the draft now is his best decision.

No mention of Terry anywhere I can find on mock draft boards. On his NBA draft profile, DT is listed as mid to late second round if he were to declare this year (https://nbadraftroom.com/dalen-terry/). But unlike Koloko, Terry absolutely can improve his draft stock with one more year. The biggest difference between DT and Benn is about 15 pounds of muscle. Benn already has a NBA body. DT still needs more if he is going to bang with the professionals. Benn also shot 38% from 3 this past year, and Terry 36%. Not much of a difference, but with Benn gone, there will be more shots available, and if Terry can hit 38% or better, and average 12 ppg, that makes Terry a potential lottery pick next year.

I don't see Dalen as a lottery guy ever. I'd tell him to model on Solomon Hill's skills and career path. If he has an NBA future, it's that role, for the same reasons I don't ever see him being lottery.

Benn has to go. Koloko should, not to dredge that argument up.

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:40 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:18 am

AzCatFan2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:03 am Latest draft projections all have Benn as a lottery pick. He's gone. This projection, from the NBA, has Koloko as the 1st pick in the 2nd round. (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/). If Koloko is at his peak draft position, then he's likely gone too, unless he wants to graduate. Maybe Koloko can work his way next year into a guaranteed first rounder? But maybe not, especially given he'll be 3 or 4 years older than many other guys in the draft. The more time goes by, it looks like Koloko entering the draft now is his best decision.

No mention of Terry anywhere I can find on mock draft boards. On his NBA draft profile, DT is listed as mid to late second round if he were to declare this year (https://nbadraftroom.com/dalen-terry/). But unlike Koloko, Terry absolutely can improve his draft stock with one more year. The biggest difference between DT and Benn is about 15 pounds of muscle. Benn already has a NBA body. DT still needs more if he is going to bang with the professionals. Benn also shot 38% from 3 this past year, and Terry 36%. Not much of a difference, but with Benn gone, there will be more shots available, and if Terry can hit 38% or better, and average 12 ppg, that makes Terry a potential lottery pick next year.

I don't see Dalen as a lottery guy ever. I'd tell him to model on Solomon Hill's skills and career path. If he has an NBA future, it's that role, for the same reasons I don't ever see him being lottery.

Benn has to go. Koloko should, not to dredge that argument up.

Both Solo and RHJ went in the 20s. But Iggy went 9th, and I see Dalen more like Igoudala than Hill or Hollis-Jefferson. Hill and RHJ don't have DT's length or quickness. And if DT can put on the muscle and look more like Iggy, who is listed at 6' 6" and 215, the interest in Terry will rise. Iggy only averaged 12.9 ppg his final year in Tucson, but his defense and length made him a lottery pick. Don't see Terry going top 10, but late lottery is a possibility if he adds more muscle, and 4-5 ppg while shooting close to 40% from the outside.

Agreed Koloko should go. The only thing that might hold him is a desire to get a degree. Which he can do on the road in the NBA just as easily as he can in Tucson.