Bear Down Wildcats

ASUHATER! wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:I mean I'm not saying he won't end up on campus. But who knows with kids these days. Ferguson left a hole in my heart. Along with all the other kids that change their mind well after their commitment.

Such a weird take and post. Do you need a hug? This isn't football recruiting, relax.

It's not a weird take at all. It's the simple truth if college recruiting in 2017.

No it's not. There's a very select few basketball recruits where your question would've been a valid concern. Keyword few. Shareef O'Neal is not one of them. You're just being a schmuck for the sake of it.

It is. It's the simple truth if college recruiting. Period.

Puerco wrote:Ebi, Jennings, Withey, Leaf, Ferguson just off the top of my head. I wouldn't say 'hater's concerns are invalid. Kids change their minds. All. The. Time.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Puerco wrote:Ebi, Jennings, Withey, Leaf, Ferguson just off the top of my head. I wouldn't say 'hater's concerns are invalid. Kids change their minds. All. The. Time.

Ebi? One of these things is not like the others...

Puerco wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Puerco wrote:Ebi, Jennings, Withey, Leaf, Ferguson just off the top of my head. I wouldn't say 'hater's concerns are invalid. Kids change their minds. All. The. Time.

Ebi? One of these things is not like the others...

Que?

Puerco wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Puerco wrote:Ebi, Jennings, Withey, Leaf, Ferguson just off the top of my head. I wouldn't say 'hater's concerns are invalid. Kids change their minds. All. The. Time.

Ebi? One of these things is not like the others...

Que?

gumby wrote:

Puerco wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Puerco wrote:Ebi, Jennings, Withey, Leaf, Ferguson just off the top of my head. I wouldn't say 'hater's concerns are invalid. Kids change their minds. All. The. Time.

Ebi? One of these things is not like the others...

Que?

Back when kids could go from high school right to the NBA.

Puerco wrote:Having a few concerns shouldn't keep us from enjoying something, right? Like if you were worried about some germs on your fork, would it keep you from enjoying that ribeye?

McKale Midwest wrote:What would be the ideal team for 2018?

Who are the players that come back? Randolph, Barcello, Lee, Smith. Anyone else?

You've got to assume we are going to add one-two more players this year, whether it be transfer or incoming freshman, that could be around for 2018.

Akot and O'Neal are already committed, who else would you like to add? Obviously Bagley would be target number 1. I'm hoping we add Brandon Williams and Bol Bol. If that is the case, who do you see as the starters, and do we need to add any more players?

My lineup would be:
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Bagley
Bol Bol

We would be extremely young, starting all under-classmen. Because of this, I think it is almost a necessity to add a guy this year like Cam Johnson or Chase Jeter (or both) that would be here in 2018.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:What would be the ideal team for 2018?

Who are the players that come back? Randolph, Barcello, Lee, Smith. Anyone else?

You've got to assume we are going to add one-two more players this year, whether it be transfer or incoming freshman, that could be around for 2018.

Akot and O'Neal are already committed, who else would you like to add? Obviously Bagley would be target number 1. I'm hoping we add Brandon Williams and Bol Bol. If that is the case, who do you see as the starters, and do we need to add any more players?

My lineup would be:
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Bagley
Bol Bol

We would be extremely young, starting all under-classmen. Because of this, I think it is almost a necessity to add a guy this year like Cam Johnson or Chase Jeter (or both) that would be here in 2018.

Ideal?

Duval
Alkins
Trier
Bagley
Ayton

Frontcourt bench: Comanche, Bol, Lee.

Perimeter bench: Randolph, Smith, Barcello, Brandon Williams.

McKale Midwest wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:What would be the ideal team for 2018?

Who are the players that come back? Randolph, Barcello, Lee, Smith. Anyone else?

You've got to assume we are going to add one-two more players this year, whether it be transfer or incoming freshman, that could be around for 2018.

Akot and O'Neal are already committed, who else would you like to add? Obviously Bagley would be target number 1. I'm hoping we add Brandon Williams and Bol Bol. If that is the case, who do you see as the starters, and do we need to add any more players?

My lineup would be:
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Bagley
Bol Bol

We would be extremely young, starting all under-classmen. Because of this, I think it is almost a necessity to add a guy this year like Cam Johnson or Chase Jeter (or both) that would be here in 2018.

Ideal?

Duval
Alkins
Trier
Bagley
Ayton

Frontcourt bench: Comanche, Bol, Lee.

Perimeter bench: Randolph, Smith, Barcello, Brandon Williams.

Maybe I should have used the word "realistic" instead of ideal.

But man, what a team that would be.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:What would be the ideal team for 2018?

Who are the players that come back? Randolph, Barcello, Lee, Smith. Anyone else?

You've got to assume we are going to add one-two more players this year, whether it be transfer or incoming freshman, that could be around for 2018.

Akot and O'Neal are already committed, who else would you like to add? Obviously Bagley would be target number 1. I'm hoping we add Brandon Williams and Bol Bol. If that is the case, who do you see as the starters, and do we need to add any more players?

My lineup would be:
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Bagley
Bol Bol

We would be extremely young, starting all under-classmen. Because of this, I think it is almost a necessity to add a guy this year like Cam Johnson or Chase Jeter (or both) that would be here in 2018.

Ideal?

Duval
Alkins
Trier
Bagley
Ayton

Frontcourt bench: Comanche, Bol, Lee.

Perimeter bench: Randolph, Smith, Barcello, Brandon Williams.

Maybe I should have used the word "realistic" instead of ideal.

But man, what a team that would be.

Shoot, I even forgot Akot. Sub him for Smith.

If we're speaking realistically, I think you did a pretty good job.

McKale Midwest wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

McKale Midwest wrote:What would be the ideal team for 2018?

Who are the players that come back? Randolph, Barcello, Lee, Smith. Anyone else?

You've got to assume we are going to add one-two more players this year, whether it be transfer or incoming freshman, that could be around for 2018.

Akot and O'Neal are already committed, who else would you like to add? Obviously Bagley would be target number 1. I'm hoping we add Brandon Williams and Bol Bol. If that is the case, who do you see as the starters, and do we need to add any more players?

My lineup would be:
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Bagley
Bol Bol

We would be extremely young, starting all under-classmen. Because of this, I think it is almost a necessity to add a guy this year like Cam Johnson or Chase Jeter (or both) that would be here in 2018.

Ideal?

Duval
Alkins
Trier
Bagley
Ayton

Frontcourt bench: Comanche, Bol, Lee.

Perimeter bench: Randolph, Smith, Barcello, Brandon Williams.

Maybe I should have used the word "realistic" instead of ideal.

But man, what a team that would be.

Shoot, I even forgot Akot. Sub him for Smith.

If we're speaking realistically, I think you did a pretty good job.

What about Shareef? I would rather have him than Lee.

dmjcat wrote:5 Star Forward locked in on AZ & Oregon

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Puerco wrote:

dmjcat wrote:5 Star Forward locked in on AZ & Oregon

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/under-arm ... 50884.html" target="_blank

These Yahoo links never actually take me to the story people intend them to. Anyone else have this problem with Yahoo?

Longhorned wrote:

Puerco wrote:

dmjcat wrote:5 Star Forward locked in on AZ & Oregon

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/under-arm ... 50884.html" target="_blank

These Yahoo links never actually take me to the story people intend them to. Anyone else have this problem with Yahoo?

Your problem is that you're in 2017, and Yahoo is in 1997. Remember to downdate your browser settings periodically.

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dmjcat wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivals-ro ... 50133.html

EVANS: It might not be based solely on last year’s results but it is more about Sean Miller’s willingness to buy into the one-and-done idea that his recent teams have displayed. Arizona already sits with the best class in 2018 thanks to the commitments of five-star juniors Emmanuel Akot and Shareef O’Neal. Arizona can be seen as the favorite for Marvin Bagley, Brandon Williams and Gerald Liddell and an upcoming visit from grad-transfer wing Cameron Johnson should also not be forgotten.

PEEK: Arizona is a school I heard consistently during interviews this past weekend. Marvin Bagley, Cam Reddish, Miles Norris, Taeshon Cherry and Tre Jones all said they have Arizona in the mix. Not to mention the Wildcats already landed 2018 five-star Shareef O'Neal and are still in the running for top 2017 five-stars Brian Bowen and Trevon Duval. Also, Sean Miller's hire of Lorenzo Romar seems to be a good move for recruiting as well.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivals-ro ... 50133.html

EVANS: It might not be based solely on last year’s results but it is more about Sean Miller’s willingness to buy into the one-and-done idea that his recent teams have displayed. Arizona already sits with the best class in 2018 thanks to the commitments of five-star juniors Emmanuel Akot and Shareef O’Neal. Arizona can be seen as the favorite for Marvin Bagley, Brandon Williams and Gerald Liddell and an upcoming visit from grad-transfer wing Cameron Johnson should also not be forgotten.

PEEK: Arizona is a school I heard consistently during interviews this past weekend. Marvin Bagley, Cam Reddish, Miles Norris, Taeshon Cherry and Tre Jones all said they have Arizona in the mix. Not to mention the Wildcats already landed 2018 five-star Shareef O'Neal and are still in the running for top 2017 five-stars Brian Bowen and Trevon Duval. Also, Sean Miller's hire of Lorenzo Romar seems to be a good move for recruiting as well.

Arizona is not the favorite for Marvin Bagley at the moment.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivals-ro ... 50133.html

EVANS: It might not be based solely on last year’s results but it is more about Sean Miller’s willingness to buy into the one-and-done idea that his recent teams have displayed. Arizona already sits with the best class in 2018 thanks to the commitments of five-star juniors Emmanuel Akot and Shareef O’Neal. Arizona can be seen as the favorite for Marvin Bagley, Brandon Williams and Gerald Liddell and an upcoming visit from grad-transfer wing Cameron Johnson should also not be forgotten.

PEEK: Arizona is a school I heard consistently during interviews this past weekend. Marvin Bagley, Cam Reddish, Miles Norris, Taeshon Cherry and Tre Jones all said they have Arizona in the mix. Not to mention the Wildcats already landed 2018 five-star Shareef O'Neal and are still in the running for top 2017 five-stars Brian Bowen and Trevon Duval. Also, Sean Miller's hire of Lorenzo Romar seems to be a good move for recruiting as well.

Arizona is not the favorite for Marvin Bagley at the moment.

Is anyone? Everything I see about Bagley tends to be in the "your guess is as good as mine" vein.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/rivals-ro ... 50133.html

EVANS: It might not be based solely on last year’s results but it is more about Sean Miller’s willingness to buy into the one-and-done idea that his recent teams have displayed. Arizona already sits with the best class in 2018 thanks to the commitments of five-star juniors Emmanuel Akot and Shareef O’Neal. Arizona can be seen as the favorite for Marvin Bagley, Brandon Williams and Gerald Liddell and an upcoming visit from grad-transfer wing Cameron Johnson should also not be forgotten.

PEEK: Arizona is a school I heard consistently during interviews this past weekend. Marvin Bagley, Cam Reddish, Miles Norris, Taeshon Cherry and Tre Jones all said they have Arizona in the mix. Not to mention the Wildcats already landed 2018 five-star Shareef O'Neal and are still in the running for top 2017 five-stars Brian Bowen and Trevon Duval. Also, Sean Miller's hire of Lorenzo Romar seems to be a good move for recruiting as well.

Arizona is not the favorite for Marvin Bagley at the moment.

Is anyone? Everything I see about Bagley tends to be in the "your guess is as good as mine" vein.

UCLA.

CalStateTempe wrote:So what's seniors deal? Must be a real asshole if his rep precedes him this much.

Any good/bad stories?

PennZona20 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:So what's seniors deal? Must be a real asshole if his rep precedes him this much.

Any good/bad stories?

I don't know much as I'm an east coaster. But I've heard comparisons to Lavar Ball thrown around minus the incredibly stupid diarrhea of the mouth that Lavar has. By all accounts he's a helicopter dad living vicariously through his kid though. And there's the yanking his kid out of schools for not meeting his demands on getting MB3 the necessary exposure w big time TV games v powerhouse prep schools, etc.

Lavar Ball is worse , but just like he is worth dealing w to get Lonzo, sr is worth dealing w to get jr. And at least in this situation u don't have to deal w him for 2 other marginally talented kids as well.

The problem is getting sr to realize Arizona is best for his kids development for 1 year before he goes #1 in draft, which he will.

Also, at the end of the day, Miller isn't going to let any parent tell him how to coach, substitute , or run his team, and sr may find a coach like Alford w less of a backbone more appealing to his wishes.

gumby wrote:

PennZona20 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:So what's seniors deal? Must be a real asshole if his rep precedes him this much.

Any good/bad stories?

I don't know much as I'm an east coaster. But I've heard comparisons to Lavar Ball thrown around minus the incredibly stupid diarrhea of the mouth that Lavar has. By all accounts he's a helicopter dad living vicariously through his kid though. And there's the yanking his kid out of schools for not meeting his demands on getting MB3 the necessary exposure w big time TV games v powerhouse prep schools, etc.

Lavar Ball is worse , but just like he is worth dealing w to get Lonzo, sr is worth dealing w to get jr. And at least in this situation u don't have to deal w him for 2 other marginally talented kids as well.

The problem is getting sr to realize Arizona is best for his kids development for 1 year before he goes #1 in draft, which he will.

Also, at the end of the day, Miller isn't going to let any parent tell him how to coach, substitute , or run his team, and sr may find a coach like Alford w less of a backbone more appealing to his wishes.

So then it wasn't true!

Some reason the overly involved dads like UCLA?

ChooChooCat wrote:That's a cute quote. From what I understand here's the order:

1. Overseas
2. UCLA
3. Arizona

Beachcat97 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:That's a cute quote. From what I understand here's the order:

1. Overseas
2. UCLA
3. Arizona

Based on...?? Think it's all rumors at this point. He's got UK and Duke in the mix, so even though he's a west coast guy, I would say his recruitment is far from settled. No clear leader at this point. If anything, I'd give AZ a slight edge for reasons noted upthread.

A1RZONA wrote:

anyone know about this? if i remember correctly he visited az?

ChooChooCat wrote:

A1RZONA wrote:

anyone know about this? if i remember correctly he visited az?

I don't believe he did. Rumor has been that he's reclassifying to 2017, but if he does then Syracuse is the likely spot.