Re: let's talk '19
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:48 am
Has to be a good thing that Arizona always gets mentioned first right?
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If it is 2020 rosters... he would be our starting center. Unless he is focused on being only a 4.terryarms wrote:I don't think the order listed in the tweets means anything, but I've heard over the last week or so that it's down to UK and AZ with him leaning to UK depending on how rosters are expected to shape up for the 2020 season.
My opinion is that his dad is a UK lean, he didn't seem to care for AZ during the recruitment process.
I know we have a lot of turnover, but I feel like we have a much more secure spot than UK in 2020. UK has had complete overhauls to surprising returners and 10 man rotations. Predicting our roster isn't exact, but it is easier than predicting theirs.terryarms wrote:I don't think the order listed in the tweets means anything, but I've heard over the last week or so that it's down to UK and AZ with him leaning to UK depending on how rosters are expected to shape up for the 2020 season.
My opinion is that his dad is a UK lean, he didn't seem to care for AZ during the recruitment process.
Marcus Lee 2.0 if he chooses Kentucky. If he seriously goes that route he will be the crowned king of moronic recruitments with 2 vastly idiotic decisions in back to back years.terryarms wrote:I don't think the order listed in the tweets means anything, but I've heard over the last week or so that it's down to UK and AZ with him leaning to UK depending on how rosters are expected to shape up for the 2020 season.
My opinion is that his dad is a UK lean, he didn't seem to care for AZ during the recruitment process.
I actually don't think the week has been that bad for us? I think there's light at the end of the tunnel now, and nothing new + substantial has really come out (it's really just been a continuation of having our name in the news which obviously isn't ideal but still).Beachcat97 wrote:JB would be a sweet addition. Would also bring a little sunshine to a week that’s been otherwise drenched in shitstorm.
My recollection is that he wanted to showcase himself as a four when he went through recruiting last time. As a college player, he's a much better fit at the five however.baycat93 wrote:If it is 2020 rosters... he would be our starting center. Unless he is focused on being only a 4.
That scouts take... kind of sounds like Brandon Randolph13) Stanley Umude, 6-6, 210, SG, Soph., South Dakota
Stats: 14.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg
Scout’s take: “Very good athlete, bouncy, slasher, strong handle, good mid-range game and can make 3s. Has the tools and athleticism to play at a very high level.”
Schools: Seton Hall, Texas, Buffalo, Arizona, Cal, Kansas, Washington State, Utah State, Arkansas, Kansas State, Western Kentucky
Actually, I sort of feel last week went about as well as it was going to. No direct evidence vs Miller in terms of paying players, just that he handled Ayton himself.Beachcat97 wrote:JB would be a sweet addition. Would also bring a little sunshine to a week that’s been otherwise drenched in shitstorm.
More shitstorm today.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Actually, I sort of feel last week went about as well as it was going to. No direct evidence vs Miller in terms of paying players, just that he handled Ayton himself.Beachcat97 wrote:JB would be a sweet addition. Would also bring a little sunshine to a week that’s been otherwise drenched in shitstorm.
Plus the general testimony that all major programs have money flowing through them...it was a pretty accurate week that didn't change anything for Arizona.
Clean things up? In week 1 of trial, the same people as this week said UNC, Duke, Kentucky and Kansas do this. ASU was trying to do this, but not good enough.Beachcat97 wrote:More shitstorm today.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Actually, I sort of feel last week went about as well as it was going to. No direct evidence vs Miller in terms of paying players, just that he handled Ayton himself.Beachcat97 wrote:JB would be a sweet addition. Would also bring a little sunshine to a week that’s been otherwise drenched in shitstorm.
Plus the general testimony that all major programs have money flowing through them...it was a pretty accurate week that didn't change anything for Arizona.
Look, I’m still in the “Miller’s hands remain clean” camp, as naive as that may make me look. But the media is having a fucking field day with this, ripping into Miller and AZ, and more and more I’m thinking Miller doesn’t survive this. Not because he’s done anything wrong but because there’s going to be mounting pressure on university admins and the ABOT to clean things up.
Beachcat97 wrote:More shitstorm today.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Actually, I sort of feel last week went about as well as it was going to. No direct evidence vs Miller in terms of paying players, just that he handled Ayton himself.Beachcat97 wrote:JB would be a sweet addition. Would also bring a little sunshine to a week that’s been otherwise drenched in shitstorm.
Plus the general testimony that all major programs have money flowing through them...it was a pretty accurate week that didn't change anything for Arizona.
Look, I’m still in the “Miller’s hands remain clean” camp, as naive as that may make me look. But the media is having a fucking field day with this, ripping into Miller and AZ, and more and more I’m thinking Miller doesn’t survive this. Not because he’s done anything wrong but because there’s going to be mounting pressure on university admins and the ABOT to clean things up.
The only reason I cared about a #1 next to our class was because it gave me something to point to when people said Sean needed to pay players to come to Arizona. That being said, I still feel our class is pretty much right there with the Duke and the possible Memphis class.NYCat wrote:RJ Hampton reclassified and so it looks like Memphis. They'll probably also get Precious Achiuwa and Lester Quinones (already have #1 overall James Wiseman), a class which probably will surpass Arizona and Duke. Arizona would end with the #3 class.
Dude was promised the PG spot and then Tre Jones came back. Then he was promised a Brandon Williams type situation and then Duke offered Cassius Stanley and took him. He was misled twice, he saw the writing on the wall, and good for him.NYCat wrote:I guess he found out about the California-Duke thing. If goes to Memphis with RJ Hampton that's even dumber than going to Duke.
UCLA? I actually think UVA makes sense for him too, he could get a ton of minutes for them right away considering their guard depth.ChooChooCat wrote:Dude was promised the PG spot and then Tre Jones came back. Then he was promised a Brandon Williams type situation and then Duke offered Cassius Stanley and took him. He was misled twice, he saw the writing on the wall, and good for him.NYCat wrote:I guess he found out about the California-Duke thing. If goes to Memphis with RJ Hampton that's even dumber than going to Duke.
I guess the number of transfers we’re going after was a sign that we may have known he would be up in the air...still would not be happy if he’s not on next year’s roster, but let’s see how Miller fills that scholly I guess. Wish Boogie felt a little bit more practical but our guard depth can’t be what he’s looking for.ChooChooCat wrote:So....Terry Armstrong...
Chicat wrote:Didn’t see any references to UA on his twitter but did see this...
The former is the issue not the latter.DrWildcat wrote:If it is over the concern of playing time, so be it. If it is related to the media circus around the program, just add it to the frustrating list of disappointments. I guess either way we all know what the media headline will be if he officially decommits.
Boogie has nothing to do with this and we are most certainly in no world for sure landing Boogie. If anything watch Memphis for him. Boogie's sole tie into this situation would be if Armstrong decommitted it would be for the same reason Boogie did at Duke.NYCat wrote:Are we even for sure landing Boogie or is the mere act of pursuing Boogie what did this
Of course I hope he stays committed, but I can live with that reason. No sense in coming if you are going to be unhappy with your role.ChooChooCat wrote:The former is the issue not the latter.DrWildcat wrote:If it is over the concern of playing time, so be it. If it is related to the media circus around the program, just add it to the frustrating list of disappointments. I guess either way we all know what the media headline will be if he officially decommits.
If he does leave then I'm hoping Randolph comes back, I feel like a year with him coming in of the bench will be good for this team and help develop his game more naturally than last year. That or stock up on an extra transfer that has to sit out a year. You have the pieces for this year, now is the time to keep planning for 2020 and on.ChooChooCat wrote:The former is the issue not the latter.DrWildcat wrote:If it is over the concern of playing time, so be it. If it is related to the media circus around the program, just add it to the frustrating list of disappointments. I guess either way we all know what the media headline will be if he officially decommits.
I guess this makes more sense in retrospect. Both would likely get no playing time (one because of sitting out the year). He'll start his visit Monday.NYCat wrote:Traditional sit out transfer
Goodman has him as the 13th best sit out (non grad) transfer
13) Stanley Umude, 6-6, 210, SG, Soph., South Dakota
Stats: 14.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg
Scout’s take: “Very good athlete, bouncy, slasher, strong handle, good mid-range game and can make 3s. Has the tools and athleticism to play at a very high level.”
Schools: Seton Hall, Texas, Buffalo, Arizona, Cal, Kansas, Washington State, Utah State, Arkansas, Kansas State, Western Kentucky
It's why we weren't even in his final 5 when before Nico's commitment we were the leader.Chicat wrote:I know we reached out, but I'm not even sure where Boogie would play. He's probably not supplanting Nico or BWill.
Ummm that's up for debate.NYCat wrote:
I guess this makes more sense in retrospect. Both would likely get no playing time (one because of sitting out the year). He'll start his visit Monday.
Brown isn't the only transfer we're after and I'm not referring to Umude, although maybe this Armstrong stuff changes things, I honestly don't know the route we'll take at the moment. Also Armstrong may have academic issues due to the numerous amounts of high schools he has attended, so that risk may make for an easier decision on our end.NYCat wrote:Ok so I guess Dylan Smith is staying and getting major minutes lol. Don't need to make room if Brown comes to Arizona because Armstrong is bouncing
Are you allowed to say who the other transfer is that we're going after?ChooChooCat wrote:Brown isn't the only transfer we're after and I'm not referring to Umude, although maybe this Armstrong stuff changes things, I honestly don't know the route we'll take at the moment. Also Armstrong may have academic issues due to the numerous amounts of high schools he has attended, so that risk may make for an easier decision on our end.NYCat wrote:Ok so I guess Dylan Smith is staying and getting major minutes lol. Don't need to make room if Brown comes to Arizona because Armstrong is bouncing
Can we still pull back Randolph and keep DD? I'd much rather that.NYCat wrote:Ok so I guess Dylan Smith is staying and getting major minutes lol. Don't need to make room if Brown comes to Arizona because Armstrong is bouncing
You'll know soon.goslingswagg wrote:Are you allowed to say who the other transfer is that we're going after?ChooChooCat wrote:Brown isn't the only transfer we're after and I'm not referring to Umude, although maybe this Armstrong stuff changes things, I honestly don't know the route we'll take at the moment. Also Armstrong may have academic issues due to the numerous amounts of high schools he has attended, so that risk may make for an easier decision on our end.NYCat wrote:Ok so I guess Dylan Smith is staying and getting major minutes lol. Don't need to make room if Brown comes to Arizona because Armstrong is bouncing
Sit a year guy.NYCat wrote:Choo, is it a grad transfer or traditional transfer?
I totally agree. Really liked what Armstrong had potential to be. However, if I had to choose b/w Armstrong and DD, I choose DD. So hopefully this means DD is bought in.NYCat wrote:Boogie is a better PG than anyone we can land in 2020, and Williams seems to favor playing off ball. He could backup both Nico & Williams this year and get plenty of minutes being the main backup to both. I know it's likely he doesn't come here but he's better fit long term. Both Hazzard & Barcello would have to go tho.
So Josh Green & RHJ are the last two SFs that Arizona has gotten? (Ray Smith unfortunately didn't play due to injuries) This is like when Miller had only landed Turner & PJC in like a 5-6 year stretch. I still have nightmares of Blueitt + JP sleeves killing us on the wings. Rawle was like 6'4, Trier 6'5 and both were not gifted defenders (not saying Armstrong is or will be) but that size above 6'6-6'7 that plays ln the wings have killed us.
This sucks
If it is who I think it is I would say the trade off upside is a net negative, although not necessarily by much. I liked Armstrong's measurable's and athleticism.ChooChooCat wrote:Sit a year guy.NYCat wrote:Choo, is it a grad transfer or traditional transfer?