PHXCATS wrote:EVCat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:yeah with all of Miller's final fours no need to adjust anything
Yeah...with Miller averaging a farther run into each tournament than Lute Olson and only 49 years old, there IS NO FUCKING NEED TO ADJUST ANYTHING ABOUT PLAYING MAN.
But you get hard over a marketing slogan. Fair enough.
This is Miller's 14th year as a college coach. Lute made the final four in his 7th and 14th years coaching in college. Age has nothing to do with it. But FYI Lute was 46 when he made his first final four
Again adjustments is not solely moving to a zone. Teach a few different things and mix it up. Make the adjustments needed to put your team in the best position to win every game, especially the NCAA Tournament games.
It is one game. In a one and done format.
How many times did Lute lose in the first round? Were you shouting at him from the parking lot that he needed to change his style of play because 86, 87, 92, 93? Get more Pete Eisenrich's and less Chris Mills'?
He is putting his team in the best position to win NCAA games, something he has done every year more than the venerable Lute Olson. And, BTW...don't pretend this is a knock on Lute. Because there were assholes just like you are acting right now shouting this kind of shit at Lute through talk radio (no message boards) in '92 and '93 and '95, and '99.
Have you ever seen Miller get slaughtered by double digit seeds as a top seed? I mean, if you want to compare. Did Lute not "mix things up enough and teach different (I don't know what other than that zone thing R&F says so zone and other...stuff...TEACH OTHER STUFFFF!!!) things those years?
The fact is Miller IS preparing his team to win in the post season, and has a philosophy that this defense works best by year's end and throwing in zone is to introduce bad practices on defense and in rebounding, and he isn't the only coach to have that philosophy, but he is one of the most successful, because he has been one of the most successful in his era of the game. Wisconsin X2....not one of those games gets won by zoning. UConn...nope. The fouling stuff...no, no, no...you bury problems in zones. It would be interesting if he adds one occasionally, and if you can do so and not lose something, then do it, but he clearly has not been convinced that his teams up to this point gained enough by doing so.
But you think YOU know that it would help? Over Sean Miller? Please...enlighten us on why I should trust you. Please tell me why you know that we wouldn't have lost in the 2nd round instead of Wisconsin if we zoned?
You can't because you can't, and you have latched on to this idea like some kind of panacea for a problem that really isn't a problem, but you want to go round and round about it. Except you don't have one fucking clue if it isn't actually something that would hurt. Because you don't have one fucking clue.
But, yeah...Lute made it at 7 and 14...and would have been DESTROYED by idiots like you if message boards existed in the numerous years he lost in the first round, because people like you don't consider how hard it is to be perfect in one and done tournaments.
but, yeah...Miller has still been far more successful season in and out. You just love the Final Four. If it was baseball, the final 8 make the CWS, so EIGHT, EIGHT!!!! would be your chant. Fans obsession with a banner and a t-shirt that is still short of a title is all this is. Come back if you want to talk "Title or bust" because at least that makes some sense. Final Four is just 4 rounds instead of 3 in a 6 round tournament, and to desire 4 wins once time surrounded by a litany of one and done runs over multiple runs into the 2nd weekend is ludicrous if you remove the marketing campaign of Final Four.
To review...
Lute went to the final four. He also lost a bunch in the first round.
Miller has been more successful in average finish in the tournament
You would have talked trash about Lute losing in the first round 5 times in 10 years around those first 2 final fours...and you would have been wrong then, too.
Miller does, in fact, teach a few things and mixes it up. He just doesn't play zone...and that's the only thing you know.
You wouldn't actually know if we were in a zone, but you have decided he needs to "mix things up" and doesn't do just that...because you don't know the game.
You don' t have a clue if a zone would help or hurt
You have decided it would help and that Miller is a bad coach because he is not...agreeing with your coaching analysis
That last line shows how fucking stupid this is.