Bear Down Wildcats

Been running amuck in Chicago for about 6 days now, resurfacing.

Any updates on TF or JJ recruitment?

I guess TF is announcing tonight if this is to be believed?

CalStateTempe wrote:Been running amuck in Chicago for about 6 days now, resurfacing.

Any updates on TF or JJ recruitment?

I guess TF is announcing tonight if this is to be believed?

JJ went to Kansas. TF is probably commiting here tonight.

Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Beachcat97 wrote:Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Athleticism. Like NBA dunk contest winning athleticism.

Edited for reference:

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Beachcat97 wrote:Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Defense.

He's been hyped up as a 3 and D guy, which works great for this team.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Defense.

He's been hyped up as a 3 and D guy, which works great for this team.

He's good at that end, but IMO needs to get stronger to be a really good college defender. That's my only criticism of his game, that he's really skinny. He's a decent ballhandler and has ok court sense. Adding strength is the big thing for him in college.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Defense.

He's been hyped up as a 3 and D guy, which works great for this team.

He's good at that end, but IMO needs to get stronger to be a really good college defender. That's my only criticism of his game, that he's really skinny. He's a decent ballhandler and has ok court sense. Adding strength is the big thing for him in college.

Agreed. He won't have a problem staying in front of his guy though, being outmuscled down low if he's ever in that position on the other hand...

His fakes are legendary.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ter ... son-71464/" target="_blank

Mike Schmitz
Strengths
-Good size for a wing at 6' 7”. Decent length – 6' 9.5” wingspan.
-Big-time leaper in transition. Best off of one foot.
-Can really get going from the perimeter with his feet set. Excellent when he's able to step into it in transition. Catches on the hop. Gets his feet set quickly. Nice elevation. Can run off of screens a little bit. Solid rotation and wrist action.
-Can make a one-dribble pull up.
-Capable of attacking a closeout.
-Outstanding feet on defense. Tremendous on ball defender when he digs in. Does a great job keeping the ball contained. Has the size and length to recover and contest.

Weaknesses
-Doesn't have a great frame – 186 lbs.
-Super bouncy but doesn't quite know how to use his athleticism in the half court. Very rigid ball handler. Offensive game is a little vanilla. Right-hand dominant.
-Can improve his ability to get to his jump shot vs a set defense.
-Dangerous when he gets going but can be very streaky as a shooter.
-Not much of a playmaker.
-Has some lapses as an off ball defender.

Outlook Ferguson had an up and down week of practices before exploding in the game for 21 points on seven threes. He plays with a lot of confidence and proved how he can change a game when he gets going from three. There's not a whole lot to Ferguson's game but with his size, shot-making ability, and on-ball defense, there's most certainly a role for him at the NBA level in time.

Jonathan Givony
Strengths:
-6-7 in shoes
-Incredibly explosive leaper. Elevates high above the rim in warmups with amazing ease
-Very good potential as an outside shooter. Makes catch and shoot jumpers regularly. Very confident in it (six attempts per game in just 22 minutes at the U19s)
-Can come off screens. Creates separation well thanks to tremendous athleticism
-Competitive defensively
-Only turned 17 a few months ago. Over two years younger than many of the players in attendance

Weaknesses:
-Only 183 pounds. Frame is somewhat frail, especially in the lower body, and will take time to fill out.
-Wingspan is average, measured between 6-8 and 6-9.
-Poor ball-handler. Struggles to create his own shot off the dribble in the half-court. Rarely gets to free throw line
-Shooting mechanics are not consistent. Sometimes shoots with a very low release. Often off-balance. Tends to jump too high and shoot on the way down
-Doesn't have any real in-between game. Shooting 3s in the half-court and running the floor in transition are his two main sources of production
-Awareness, feel for the game still a work in progress

Outlook: Freakishly athletic shooting guard with great size and good potential as an outside shooter. Draws comparisons to the likes of Jeremy Lamb and Gerald Green, but seems to have better competitiveness and overall potential defensively. Didn't have an amazing showing (7.9 PER), but still held his own in Crete despite being one of the youngest players in attendance.

Height (w/ shoes): 6-7
Weight: 186
Wingspan: 6'9.5
Standing Reach: 8'7

Terrance Ferguson's measurements line up well with those we've seen in the past. He has terrific height for a two-guard at any level, but lacks a degree of length and bulk. As a result, he doesn't have too many ideal comparisons among previous NBA draft picks, with the closest match being Gerald Green who measured 6'7.25 in shoes with a 192-pound frame and a 6'9.75 wingspan at the 2005 NBA Pre-Draft Camp

ChooChooCat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:Besides 3 point shooting, what are TF's other strengths?

Defense.

He's been hyped up as a 3 and D guy, which works great for this team.

(DANG! NYCAT has a browser, too. BeachCat should get one. I hear they're free.)

From Draft Express.

Strengths

-Good size for a wing at 6' 7”. Decent length – 6' 9.5” wingspan.
-Big-time leaper in transition. Best off of one foot.
-Can really get going from the perimeter with his feet set. Excellent when he's able to step into it in transition. Catches on the hop. Gets his feet set quickly. Nice elevation. Can run off of screens a little bit. Solid rotation and wrist action.
-Can make a one-dribble pull up.
-Capable of attacking a closeout.
-Outstanding feet on defense. Tremendous on ball defender when he digs in. Does a great job keeping the ball contained. Has the size and length to recover and contest.

Weaknesses

-Doesn't have a great frame – 186 lbs.
-Super bouncy but doesn't quite know how to use his athleticism in the half court. Very rigid ball handler. Offensive game is a little vanilla. Right-hand dominant.
-Can improve his ability to get to his jump shot vs a set defense.
-Dangerous when he gets going but can be very streaky as a shooter.
-Not much of a playmaker.
-Has some lapses as an off ball defender.

Was trying to think of a comparison. Jeremy Lamb looks like a good one.

I don't like the Gerald Green comparison. I prefer a slightly bigger (and hopefully higher basketball IQ) Zach Lavine. Ferguson is a better shooter than Green right now. Lavine shot 37% from 3 his only year at UCLA, and that is a legit comparison for TFerg. Lamb, eh, Ferguson is light years more athletic.

I do have to laugh at some of the Crystal Ball stuff. This guy had three predictions before April 3rd and they were all wrong. Added Ferguson to AZ and Jackson to KU long after the bandwagon was at full speed. Not that there aren't some reliable sources on there, but guys like this are joke.

We having fun yet???

84Cat wrote:We having fun yet???

What channel is this signing special on?

ESPN U, but his mom said he's announcung in the evening, so probably not worth watching

Man TF is enjoying all of this!

Why would he committed tonight? Seems to live the attention and between Kobe and GS, seems like a better day to announce poor decisions like bad AD hires, then having your own signing special

Chicat wrote:I'm calling it now......

PointGuardU will tweet out that their sources have confirmed that TF will be an Arizona Wildcat, and then if that doesn't happen they'll just delete the tweet like it never happened.

Not one, not two, not three, four
Ferguson put up all of these hash tags and then deleted them. This kid loves the attention!

Bug avidly following the TF thread on an AZ fansite. Priceless.

HEH!

Yeah buddy!

When he actually announces, half of me will still be waiting for him to double back and say it was all a joke.

Thomas Jefferson birthday Fools joke!

Spaceman Spiff wrote:When he actually announces, half of me will still be waiting for him to double back and say it was all a joke.

Or to actually commit to UNC or something

another tweet deleted, he asked if he should do a live periscope for his decision

Off the plane. JJ to Kansas? What a fool.

Eat

Sleep

Tweet

Delete

Repeat

Hell yes!

Yes bro, welcome to Arizona!

He is on periscope too

# 3 class, CSM is a witch!

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball ... es-arizona" target="_blank

Bear Down young gun! Get ready to make some noise.

UAEebs86 wrote:

enfuego wrote:You aren't getting JJ or Ferguson. You're done on the perimeter. JJ or Ferguson will end up in Kansas. We'll also likely land Allen or Maker for the post. And we'll be better than Arizona again next year, just like this year. JJ made Alkins look like a fool in NY over the summer.

Bump

Sounds like Terrance has known both Rawle and Kobi since they were freshmen. Been talking about doing this for a while?? Very cool is so

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

We're gonna be fun to watch next year.

Damn it's hard to believe and the leaf decommitment we were hoping for JJ, Andrew Jones, some kid from Seattle I can't remember and Markus Howard and then to end up with 4 5 star kids and very athletic kids. Wow Miller is witch

3goggles wrote:Damn it's hard to believe and the leaf decommitment we were hoping for JJ, Andrew Jones, some kid from Seattle I can't remember and Markus Howard and then to end up with 4 5 star kids and very athletic kids. Wow Miller is witch

All credit to the fans. Without the fall meltdown and the resultant pressure applied to Miller, he would've played golf all year instead.

Welcome Terrance. Can we call you Trey?

3goggles wrote:Damn it's hard to believe and the leaf decommitment we were hoping for JJ, Andrew Jones, some kid from Seattle I can't remember and Markus Howard and then to end up with 4 5 star kids and very athletic kids. Wow Miller is witch

No kidding....crazy recruiting year even for these crazy times. CSM is a real witch! Great class Coach. Bear Down.

Welcome aboard Ferguson!

Simmons, Alkins and Ferguson is a ridiculous haul on the perimeter. We're gonna be able to do some things from the outside and in transition next year.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Welcome aboard Ferguson!

Simmons, Alkins and Ferguson is a ridiculous haul on the perimeter. We're gonna be able to do some things from the outside and in transition next year.

Add Trier to the mix and we will be crazy good.

Looks like he'll fit in great with Trier, Alkins, Simmons.

I believe the correct term is warlock.

So...safe to say best freshman class Miller has ever had? At least on paper?

We are going to be nasty next year. Wow.