Bear Down Wildcats

azgreg wrote:I think next years team, if there is a next years team will prove to be not as talented but more coachable then this years team.

I think a number of fans thought the same thing with the post-Ayton roster, which ended up producing mostly underwhelming and disastrous results. Who knows what happens, but it is not going to a be a particularly deep or experienced roster. As a fan, it isn't exactly something to look forward to. And frankly, who has confidence in Miller at this point that he can take a less talented roster and get them to play their hearts out?

azgreg wrote:I think next years team, if there is a next years team will prove to be not as talented but more coachable then this years team.

I don't think this team, especially the freshmen, were uncoachable. I think they are all really good kids, and hard workers...especially for the OAD stereotype. There were just too many of them learning about this level on the court in key roles. Zeke thrived. Nico seemed physically worn down/hurt at times...we saw a different Nico before that Baylor week, before his injury. Josh showed everything he has, but the shooting was likely hampered by the shoulder (had the same surgery at almost the same time and it still hurts to sleep on that side, and I don't do anything but play some baseball, and yeah...my throw is not the same even now), and it wasn't his strength to begin with. But those three were thrown into leadership roles on the court and with mixed results. We looked like a team with talented freshmen...we would play well, then lose the plot, then play good enough to almost win, and so on. By the end of the year, losing Hazzard and, essentially losing Jeter to further aches and a loss of focus, we were depending on a 4th freshman for some pretty important minutes...and he proved to be flawed but impactful, and coachable.

We were just too damn unbalanced. Too dependent on Freshmen. It was still light years better than where we were the year before. But this team really could have used BWill.

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Expected returning starters;

None.

Expected returning reserves;

Koloko,
Baker,
Lee.

Did not play last year;

B Williams (status unsure)
Brown.

New to program.

Terry,
Mathurin,
Akinjo.

Rest of roster;

9. Open
10. Open
11. Open
12. Open
13. Open.

Odd, not being on any early top 25 lists.

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

Anyone willing to bet money we'll even have a season next year?

Barring something unexpected, my campus is anticipating being closed at least through Fall '20.

enfuego wrote:

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Expected returning starters;

None.

Expected returning reserves;

Koloko,
Baker,
Lee.

Did not play last year;

B Williams (status unsure)
Brown.

New to program.

Terry,
Mathurin,
Akinjo.

Rest of roster;

9. Open
10. Open
11. Open
12. Open
13. Open.

Odd, not being on any early top 25 lists.

Dumb shit, stupid take, insipid opinion, yadda yadda, etc

You should probably take this opportunity to social distance yourself away from our community.

Beachcat97 wrote:

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

Anyone willing to bet money we'll even have a season next year?

Barring something unexpected, my campus is anticipating being closed at least through Fall '20.

Cal Poly SLO, my employer, plans to continue the requirement that new students come to campus for summer orientation programs starting July 2020. Thousands of students will be on campus doing group activities.

Merkin wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

Anyone willing to bet money we'll even have a season next year?

Barring something unexpected, my campus is anticipating being closed at least through Fall '20.

Cal Poly SLO, my employer, plans to continue the requirement that new students come to campus for summer orientation programs starting July 2020. Thousands of students will be on campus doing group activities.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions!" - My father

well my family cant live in good intentions, Marge! oh, your families out of control, but we cant blame you, because you have goooooood intentions!

Beachcat97 wrote:

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

Anyone willing to bet money we'll even have a season next year?

Barring something unexpected, my campus is anticipating being closed at least through Fall '20.

My guess is college sports don't happen, can't risk having unpaid labor out there getting sick/getting sick care. Plus I doubt colleges themselves will be opened.

Pro sports will try but will ultimately not be completed. All it takes is one positive test and derails the whole thing.

Well if we still don't have testing, we won't know who is sick. If we actually have widespread testing in place, then you can easily still have pro and college sports playing, albeit most likely without fans in the stands. Just test all the players weekly for covid and quarantine any that ever test positive.

Every issue we're facing with this virus medically and economically and socially can be solved by simply testing everyone.

Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

ChooChooCat wrote:Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

How had he been as a recruiter? I don't specifically remember him landing anyone? Any replacements in mind? Why has Cohen from Stanford not left yet?

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

How had he been as a recruiter? I don't specifically remember him landing anyone? Any replacements in mind? Why has Cohen from Stanford not left yet?

He was very big in rebuilding the Compton Magic relationship. Cohen is not going to come join a sinking ship at Arizona.

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

How had he been as a recruiter? I don't specifically remember him landing anyone? Any replacements in mind? Why has Cohen from Stanford not left yet?

He was very big in rebuilding the Compton Magic relationship. Cohen is not going to come join a sinking ship at Arizona.

I guess that makes sense, although I don't think Stanford is in a great position moving forward either. Haase/Stanford's ship has been at the bottom of the ocean for awhile now haha

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

How had he been as a recruiter? I don't specifically remember him landing anyone? Any replacements in mind? Why has Cohen from Stanford not left yet?

He was very big in rebuilding the Compton Magic relationship. Cohen is not going to come join a sinking ship at Arizona.

I guess that makes sense, although I don't think Stanford is in a great position moving forward either. Haase/Stanford's ship has been at the bottom of the ocean for awhile now haha

Well he wouldn't leave one sinking ship for another especially when he wouldn't be getting a promotion.

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Justin Gainey is leaving to be the new associate head coach at Marquette.

How had he been as a recruiter? I don't specifically remember him landing anyone? Any replacements in mind? Why has Cohen from Stanford not left yet?

He was very big in rebuilding the Compton Magic relationship. Cohen is not going to come join a sinking ship at Arizona.

I guess that makes sense, although I don't think Stanford is in a great position moving forward either. Haase/Stanford's ship has been at the bottom of the ocean for awhile now haha

Well he wouldn't leave one sinking ship for another especially when he wouldn't be getting a promotion.

Makes sense. This feels like an important hire for Miller's job security. Honestly might be smart to go after someone with a strong relationship with Ziaire to try to lock down his commitment. Miller can't be playing for the future here, and I'm sure he knows that.

By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Chicat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Sorry my man.

If it makes you feel better the guys we're likely to land didn't have Gainey as their primary recruiter.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Sorry my man.

If it makes you feel better the guys we're likely to land didn't have Gainey as their primary recruiter.

haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Sorry my man.

If it makes you feel better the guys we're likely to land didn't have Gainey as their primary recruiter.

haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

I think we land Walton, an international guy, and a transfer wing. Any thing else I don't have a good enough read on like Ziaire.

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:
haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

I think we land Walton, an international guy, and a transfer wing. Any thing else I don't have a good enough read on like Ziaire.

Makes sense...I'll be very interested to see how good the international and transfer wing guys will be. If it's, for example, Kerri Kriisa and Trey Murphy III, I would be cautiously optimistic about next year. But not holding my breath on them being that high-quality of adds.

goslingswagg wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:
haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

I think we land Walton, an international guy, and a transfer wing. Any thing else I don't have a good enough read on like Ziaire.

Makes sense...I'll be very interested to see how good the international and transfer wing guys will be. If it's, for example, Kerri Kriisa and Trey Murphy III, I would be cautiously optimistic about next year. But not holding my breath on them being that high-quality of adds.

Gainey was the lead on Murphy, so I wouldn't count on that.

ASUHATER! wrote:Well if we still don't have testing, we won't know who is sick. If we actually have widespread testing in place, then you can easily still have pro and college sports playing, albeit most likely without fans in the stands. Just test all the players weekly for covid and quarantine any that ever test positive.

Every issue we're facing with this virus medically and economically and socially can be solved by simply testing everyone.

or we don’t test anyone and don’t worry about it.

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:
haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

I think we land Walton, an international guy, and a transfer wing. Any thing else I don't have a good enough read on like Ziaire.

Makes sense...I'll be very interested to see how good the international and transfer wing guys will be. If it's, for example, Kerri Kriisa and Trey Murphy III, I would be cautiously optimistic about next year. But not holding my breath on them being that high-quality of adds.

Gainey was the lead on Murphy, so I wouldn't count on that.

Interesting...I would like Alan Griffin if we can swing that but not super hopeful. Juzang feels somewhat similar to Baker in his lack of success at UK and may be a low ceiling player but I guess I wouldn't hate him either.

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:
haha I agree Chi, we definitely need something positive in our lives. Choo - any guys in particular that you think we potentially land?

I think we land Walton, an international guy, and a transfer wing. Any thing else I don't have a good enough read on like Ziaire.

Makes sense...I'll be very interested to see how good the international and transfer wing guys will be. If it's, for example, Kerri Kriisa and Trey Murphy III, I would be cautiously optimistic about next year. But not holding my breath on them being that high-quality of adds.

Gainey was the lead on Murphy, so I wouldn't count on that.

Interesting...I would like Alan Griffin if we can swing that but not super hopeful. Juzang feels somewhat similar to Baker in his lack of success at UK and may be a low ceiling player but I guess I wouldn't hate him either.

Juzang is infinitely a better prospect than Baker.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Juzang is infinitely a better prospect than Baker.[/quote]

Ok good...just worried he's got the same slow feet issues defensively, and isn't much of a creator. Feels like a shooting specialist to me, but I'm glad you like him a lot more.

How are we doing with Ivan Rabb? Thought we were leading for him.

RondaeShimmy wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:

Yikes! That's not even a top 25 team in the Pac-12.

It looks bleak now. We'll see what Miller can do with the last 5 spots. With most of the top 100 gone, gonna be a challenge.

Anyone willing to bet money we'll even have a season next year?

Barring something unexpected, my campus is anticipating being closed at least through Fall '20.

My guess is college sports don't happen, can't risk having unpaid labor out there getting sick/getting sick care. Plus I doubt colleges themselves will be opened.

Pro sports will try but will ultimately not be completed. All it takes is one positive test and derails the whole thing.

Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Beachcat97 wrote:How are we doing with Ivan Rabb? Thought we were leading for him.

Seems like it's also past time for 97Cats to update us on Ray Bolger's status.

Dosia wrote: Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Same here. With schools not starting until Fall 2020 at the earliest, with no summer coaching or pickup games, the Red Blue game is going to go on in September?

Merkin wrote:

Dosia wrote: Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Same here. With schools not starting until Fall 2020 at the earliest, with no summer coaching or pickup games, the Red Blue game is going to go on in September?

Schools? Red Blue game? We’ll be lucky to be chasing neighbors’ house pets with a sharpened broomstick in the fall.

catgrad97 wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:How are we doing with Ivan Rabb? Thought we were leading for him.

Seems like it's also past time for 97Cats to update us on Ray Bolger's status.

I hear he isn’t too intelligent

Merkin wrote:

Dosia wrote: Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Same here. With schools not starting until Fall 2020 at the earliest, with no summer coaching or pickup games, the Red Blue game is going to go on in September?

Been thinking about this. Curious your thoughts Merkin. Will schools open in the fall?

Had a conversation with a University administrator yesterday who likened (via a doctor advising the university) dorm rooms to land based cruise ships. He said, how can we bring kids back to campus under that scenario. If there are no students on campus how can you have football this summer/fall. Basketball not far behind chronologically.

If there’s no season next year then it leads to the thought: has Sean already coached his last game for us?

SCCats wrote:If there’s no season next year then it leads to the thought: has Sean already coached his last game for us?

I am starting to think that could be a real possibility. If we are thinking it.... so is CSM and the rest of the coaching community.

baycat93 wrote:

Merkin wrote:

Dosia wrote: Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Same here. With schools not starting until Fall 2020 at the earliest, with no summer coaching or pickup games, the Red Blue game is going to go on in September?

Been thinking about this. Curious your thoughts Merkin. Will schools open in the fall?

Had a conversation with a University administrator yesterday who likened (via a doctor advising the university) dorm rooms to land based cruise ships. He said, how can we bring kids back to campus under that scenario. If there are no students on campus how can you have football this summer/fall. Basketball not far behind chronologically.

I have no insights, just an employee, but I would expect them too if a quick accurate test becomes readily available.

In addition to the test for COVID-19, we also need the antibody test so we know who is already immune.

oh ya, what have they ever done for you? when was the last time Barbara Streisand ever cleaned out your garage? and when its time to do the dishes, where's Raaay Bolger? i'll tell ya, Ray Bolger is looking out for Ray Bolger!!

In the early 1990s I actually got a massage from Natalie Merchant wearing a one-piece swimsuit with hairy armpits and I’m just going to leave that right here even though it isn’t true.

Chicat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Yes I'm sure the assistants we are looking at don't have any relationships with any players Mr Doom is at it again. At one time he said he was through and was leaving.

baycat93 wrote:

Merkin wrote:

Dosia wrote: Yep. I cant even begin to start caring about basketball news until I know we will actually have a season. At this point I dont see it happening.

Same here. With schools not starting until Fall 2020 at the earliest, with no summer coaching or pickup games, the Red Blue game is going to go on in September?

Been thinking about this. Curious your thoughts Merkin. Will schools open in the fall?

Had a conversation with a University administrator yesterday who likened (via a doctor advising the university) dorm rooms to land based cruise ships. He said, how can we bring kids back to campus under that scenario. If there are no students on campus how can you have football this summer/fall. Basketball not far behind chronologically.

I think there is likely to be a vaccine in the next year but there is no guarantee. AIDS, Ebola and other virus's don't have a vaccine but have developed pretty effective treatments.

You are going to hear some pretty startling statements about a major company in Seattle returning to work next week. Startling with the progress they have made and the stay at home order just signed by the governor. They have the weekend to change their mind.

UAEebs86 wrote:In addition to the test for COVID-19, we also need the antibody test so we know who is already immune.

Oh, this administration will get right on it. /s

TheCat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:By the time this hire is made Ziaire will have long made his commitment. Whoever gets hired will have zero impact on 2020 recruiting.

Welp that's just great then.

Whenever I think all this global pandemic news has me doing just a little too much dancing on the sunny side of the street I like to check out a few ChooChoo posts to bring me down again.

Yes I'm sure the assistants we are looking at don't have any relationships with any players Mr Doom is at it again. At one time he said he was through and was leaving.

I meant that the hire would impact 2021 players and not 2020.

FWIW you and your tiny hard on for me can go screw yourself.

FWIW to every body else you're really going to like the new hire (as long as it happens). I may want to walk back in regards to the original timeline of the hire though. Probably gonna happen quicker than I originally thought.

Longhorned wrote:In the early 1990s I actually got a massage from Natalie Merchant wearing a one-piece swimsuit with hairy armpits and I’m just going to leave that right here even though it isn’t true.

I’d wear a one piece swimsuit, too, for a massage from 1990s Natalie. Not gonna stop waxing my pits, though. That’s just a bridge too far.

On a more serious note, plans are in place for distance learning to continue into the fall. So I wouldn’t expect football and basketball.

Hey Choo, are you hearing anything more on Nico’s decision. I know he is expected to leave but it sounds like maybe the family is taking a hard look at it?

Oh and thx for that news on the asst. We need any kind of good news these days

azcat49 wrote:Hey Choo, are you hearing anything more on Nico’s decision. I know he is expected to leave but it sounds like maybe the family is taking a hard look at it?

Oh and thx for that news on the asst. We need any kind of good news these days

He's gone brother.

OK thx. Akinjo show now. Hoping for some good news in this asst