Pretty safe bet considering nobody has ever done itAlieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:33 pm The best part of filling out a bracket is knowing everybody is wrong
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Pretty safe bet considering nobody has ever done itAlieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:33 pm The best part of filling out a bracket is knowing everybody is wrong
Dunno, Xavier was just one game, and we would have played the highest seed possible in the other 3 games. I do agree I would have told you FSU was scary pre-tourney and I was happy to see them lose.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:17 pmI'd argue that Xavier year that lower half of the bracket opened up for us for a matchup with the zags for Sean's first f4 with the #3 FSU getting upset.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:53 pm We had almost comically bad luck with our region under Miller. In 2011, we played 4 seed, 1 seed, 3 seed. In 2013, we lost to a 2 seed. In 2014, we lost to a 2 seed as a 1. In 2015, we faced a 1 seed as a 2. In 2017, if we beat Xavier, we play a 1 seed to go to the Final Four.
The one time a region actually opened up was when Buffalo spanked us in the first round. Just about every other time, we just about literally got the toughest opponent we could when we went deep.
This year, much harder to predict. No team screams lights out in the South to me...other than us. Maybe we finally get a good draw.
I certainly remember everyone feeling very confident after Xavier got their upset and the matchup with the Zags was looming. The final four was in Glendale, perfect. #1 Villanova had also lost in the rd of 32 and that bracket (#2 Duke and #3 Baylor also lost in rd of 32) would've been the final four matchup (#7 seed south Carolina eventually).
Everything seemed like it was breaking Arizona's way and just had to get past Gonzaga and they'd be in the title game.
I used to spend summers near Longwood. My grandparents owned a place in Cumberland Court House, Virginia, and Farmville was the closest “big” town. It had the Walmart and the college. Jerome Kersey played there, and that was about it.RaisingArizona wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:31 pm The sophomoric side of me (which is every side) wants Longwood alive as long as possible. I'll root for Arizona over the dick joke of course but otherwise that's my team.
Btw, is Moorhead State in Longwood's conference? That would be quite the rivalry.
How is there no mention of ANY Wildcats in the Top Players section??97cats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:54 pm WEST REGION
No. 1 Arizona: The Wildcats won the Pac-12 regular season by three games over second-place UCLA and have lost once — by 16 points at Colorado — since Jan.25.
No. 2 Villanova: The Wildcats have won five Big East titles in eight years. They were the No.2 seed in the South in 2016 and won a national championship.
No. 3 Tennessee: The Volunteers are one of only three teams to beat Arizona this season, defeating the Wildcats 77-73 on Dec.22 in Knoxville.
No. 4 Illinois: Despite recent success in the Big Ten tournament, the Illini won a share of the conference’s regular-season title for the first time since 2005.
Cinderella search
Why not Chattanooga? The Mocs already have had a prayer answered this March. They secured their bid when guard David Jean-Baptiste hit a three-pointer at the overtime buzzer to beat Furman in the Southern Conference final.
Top players
Kofi Cockburn, center, Illinois: The 7-foot Cockburn is the only player in the country averaging at least 20 points (21.1) and 10 rebounds (10.6). Nationally, he ranks 11th and eighth, respectively, and is a finalist for the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar center of the year award.
David Roddy, forward, Colorado State: At 6-6 and 255 pounds, Roddy is thicker than most star players. He averages 19.4 points and 7.6 rebounds and was Mountain West Conference player of the year.
E.J. Liddell, forward, Ohio State: A junior, Liddell toyed with the idea of entering the NBA draft last year before deciding to remain in college. His improved play this season includes averaging 19.6 points, 7.9 rebounds and 2.6 blocks.
Rim shots
Bryant’s Peter Kiss leads the nation in scoring, averaging 25.1 points. A 6-5 senior guard, Kiss reached 30 points 10 times this season.
Delaware is 0-15 all time against Villanova, the most recent loss coming in 2019. Blue Hens coach Martin Ingelsby grew up rooting for the Wildcats, and his father, Tom, was a Villanova standout.
Loyola Chicago is coached by Drew Valentine, who took over the program last year at age 29. As a player, he was part of the Oakland program that made back-to-back NCAA appearances starting in 2010.
— Jeff Miller
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All we had to do is take care of a double digit seed Xavier.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:54 pmDunno, Xavier was just one game, and we would have played the highest seed possible in the other 3 games. I do agree I would have told you FSU was scary pre-tourney and I was happy to see them lose.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:17 pmI'd argue that Xavier year that lower half of the bracket opened up for us for a matchup with the zags for Sean's first f4 with the #3 FSU getting upset.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:53 pm We had almost comically bad luck with our region under Miller. In 2011, we played 4 seed, 1 seed, 3 seed. In 2013, we lost to a 2 seed. In 2014, we lost to a 2 seed as a 1. In 2015, we faced a 1 seed as a 2. In 2017, if we beat Xavier, we play a 1 seed to go to the Final Four.
The one time a region actually opened up was when Buffalo spanked us in the first round. Just about every other time, we just about literally got the toughest opponent we could when we went deep.
This year, much harder to predict. No team screams lights out in the South to me...other than us. Maybe we finally get a good draw.
I certainly remember everyone feeling very confident after Xavier got their upset and the matchup with the Zags was looming. The final four was in Glendale, perfect. #1 Villanova had also lost in the rd of 32 and that bracket (#2 Duke and #3 Baylor also lost in rd of 32) would've been the final four matchup (#7 seed south Carolina eventually).
Everything seemed like it was breaking Arizona's way and just had to get past Gonzaga and they'd be in the title game.
In 2018, the South had a Sweet 16 matching a 5 seed vs 9 seed and a 7 seed vs an 11 seed. Eventually, the 11 seed won it. If Buffalo hadn't have whipped us...I mean, that team was very flawed so we still probably would have lost, just had more of a chance.
Our size combined with our pace eventually wears out teams. They can maybe hang for a bit, but eventually it sets in.Longhorned wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:53 pmYeah, after experiencing Stanford and Colorado, my fears about lesser teams shooting the lights out are more than little diffused.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:47 pm To be concerned about a team, you have to think if they can matchup with our size, our size that can guard guards outside of the paint.
Arizona is elite in 2pt% offensively and defensively. That's how they're going to beat you. As we saw this conference tournament, it doesn't even matter if you hit record amount of 3s.
Who the fruck gets TruTV?EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:06 pm Looks like Friday's game is scheduled for 7:27pm EST on truTV.
I dunno I don't think Kerr fully blossomed until after his 2 game streak where he was shooting 0-19. He hasn't been the same since in a good way
to me its the single biggest factor in the development of Arizona since the middle of January - the defensive versatility and overall coverage and ability it gives Lloyd is beyond impressive.
97cats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:26 pmto me its the single biggest factor in the development of Arizona since the middle of January - the defensive versatility and overall coverage and ability it gives Lloyd is beyond impressive.
its been gelling for a while and now Koloko has taken it to another level - taking on the opponents best player and dominating.
having Ballo man the paint behind him has suffocated tired opponents who often cant even get off a shot attempt at the end of games.
i would lean to that then remember often times teams hitting record number of threes against us this season and AZ winning by like a dozen...i think it just happened??Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:30 pm
It really seems like the only way to beat us is to shoot and hit a crazy amount of 3s
I didn't say it would work... just it might be their best chance... unless our Bigs get in foul trouble....97cats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:34 pmi would lean to that then remember often times teams hitting record number of threes against us this season and AZ winning by like a dozen...i think it just happened??Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:30 pm
It really seems like the only way to beat us is to shoot and hit a crazy amount of 3s
oh it could work for sure in conjunction with somebody able and willing to push them around.Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:37 pm I didn't say it would work... just it might be their best chance... unless our Bigs get in foul trouble....
I meant the highest round 1 seed for a #2 to play is #15, the highest seed for a #2 seed in round 2 is #7 and the highest possible seed in the EE is a #1.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:05 pmAll we had to do is take care of a double digit seed Xavier.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:54 pmDunno, Xavier was just one game, and we would have played the highest seed possible in the other 3 games. I do agree I would have told you FSU was scary pre-tourney and I was happy to see them lose.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:17 pmI'd argue that Xavier year that lower half of the bracket opened up for us for a matchup with the zags for Sean's first f4 with the #3 FSU getting upset.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:53 pm We had almost comically bad luck with our region under Miller. In 2011, we played 4 seed, 1 seed, 3 seed. In 2013, we lost to a 2 seed. In 2014, we lost to a 2 seed as a 1. In 2015, we faced a 1 seed as a 2. In 2017, if we beat Xavier, we play a 1 seed to go to the Final Four.
The one time a region actually opened up was when Buffalo spanked us in the first round. Just about every other time, we just about literally got the toughest opponent we could when we went deep.
This year, much harder to predict. No team screams lights out in the South to me...other than us. Maybe we finally get a good draw.
I certainly remember everyone feeling very confident after Xavier got their upset and the matchup with the Zags was looming. The final four was in Glendale, perfect. #1 Villanova had also lost in the rd of 32 and that bracket (#2 Duke and #3 Baylor also lost in rd of 32) would've been the final four matchup (#7 seed south Carolina eventually).
Everything seemed like it was breaking Arizona's way and just had to get past Gonzaga and they'd be in the title game.
In 2018, the South had a Sweet 16 matching a 5 seed vs 9 seed and a 7 seed vs an 11 seed. Eventually, the 11 seed won it. If Buffalo hadn't have whipped us...I mean, that team was very flawed so we still probably would have lost, just had more of a chance.
Gonzaga was essentially the final four game in the elite eight. If we won that we would've a cake walk to the national championship game. (Don't recall anyone being scared of that Gonzaga team).
I honestly don't know what you mean by the bolded part.
I'd go with hoping we miss shots and/or turn the ball over. In losses we average .392 from the field and 16 to's. Normally, we are .496 and 13.2.Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:30 pm97cats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:26 pmto me its the single biggest factor in the development of Arizona since the middle of January - the defensive versatility and overall coverage and ability it gives Lloyd is beyond impressive.
its been gelling for a while and now Koloko has taken it to another level - taking on the opponents best player and dominating.
having Ballo man the paint behind him has suffocated tired opponents who often cant even get off a shot attempt at the end of games.
It really seems like the only way to beat us is to shoot and hit a crazy amount of 3s
Well Jay Bilas said that Duke has 3 lottery picks and two more first rounders, so, you know he's right.CatFanOneMil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:35 pm If you look at our side of the bracket, there are arguably MORE NBA player draft pics on our team than all the other teams combined...I mean who have the others got? Kofi? We already know how to beat him and he's just one guy, we can throw three guys at him and he will fold.
Gonzaga leads with the most lottery picks, Kentucky is probably next...Baylor has some...but I'm picking my brackets based on how close to the actual NBA the teams look...thats why the 16th seeds never win...how many lottery picks have come out of 16 seeds?
It doesn't mean that NBA players don't arise out of 16 seeds, eventually...but those teams don't win National Championships without high lottery picks...it just doesn't happen anymore.
Yeah I'm not sure what the hell is going on at Duke...I think Coach K's retirement has taken a LOT of attention away from the players and NO ONE GOES TO DUKE THAT IS NOT AN ATTENTION WHORE...its a complete circle jerk there, so K taking all the thunder has made his players kinda "meh"...U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:15 pmWell Jay Bilas said that Duke has 3 lottery picks and two more first rounders, so, you know he's right.CatFanOneMil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:35 pm If you look at our side of the bracket, there are arguably MORE NBA player draft pics on our team than all the other teams combined...I mean who have the others got? Kofi? We already know how to beat him and he's just one guy, we can throw three guys at him and he will fold.
Gonzaga leads with the most lottery picks, Kentucky is probably next...Baylor has some...but I'm picking my brackets based on how close to the actual NBA the teams look...thats why the 16th seeds never win...how many lottery picks have come out of 16 seeds?
It doesn't mean that NBA players don't arise out of 16 seeds, eventually...but those teams don't win National Championships without high lottery picks...it just doesn't happen anymore.
None of that is obvious to me Captain. First I do think TCU beats Seton Hall who we pounded as a 1 seed in 87-88 when everyone like you was picking them to upset the cats.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm The winner of TCU/Seton Hall scares me if we win our first game. I could see us having problems with either of those teams. TCU is long and physical and held their own against Kansas twice this year. Seton Hall has just seemed to have our number in the NCAA tournament. We've been eliminated twice by them. As much as I love this team I just see Villanova winning the South. There's a lot of people picking Arizona to win it all but historically we always fall short in those years unfortunately. My guess is we lose in the second round or the Sweet 16. We always seem to run into a buzz saw like Utah in 98 or more recently the Buffalo blowout and we had the number one overall draft pick on that team. I want so badly to pick us to the FF but I just don't see it happening. For now I've got the Zags, UCLA, Nova, and Kansas in my Final Four with the Zags winning the title.
Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm The winner of TCU/Seton Hall scares me if we win our first game. I could see us having problems with either of those teams. TCU is long and physical and held their own against Kansas twice this year. Seton Hall has just seemed to have our number in the NCAA tournament. We've been eliminated twice by them. As much as I love this team I just see Villanova winning the South. There's a lot of people picking Arizona to win it all but historically we always fall short in those years unfortunately. My guess is we lose in the second round or the Sweet 16. We always seem to run into a buzz saw like Utah in 98 or more recently the Buffalo blowout and we had the number one overall draft pick on that team. I want so badly to pick us to the FF but I just don't see it happening. For now I've got the Zags, UCLA, Nova, and Kansas in my Final Four with the Zags winning the title.
We did get a #1 seed, but you don't have to travel to Chicago. 1/2 isn't bad for you.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm The winner of TCU/Seton Hall scares me if we win our first game. I could see us having problems with either of those teams. TCU is long and physical and held their own against Kansas twice this year. Seton Hall has just seemed to have our number in the NCAA tournament. We've been eliminated twice by them. As much as I love this team I just see Villanova winning the South. There's a lot of people picking Arizona to win it all but historically we always fall short in those years unfortunately. My guess is we lose in the second round or the Sweet 16. We always seem to run into a buzz saw like Utah in 98 or more recently the Buffalo blowout and we had the number one overall draft pick on that team. I want so badly to pick us to the FF but I just don't see it happening. For now I've got the Zags, UCLA, Nova, and Kansas in my Final Four with the Zags winning the title.
Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm The winner of TCU/Seton Hall scares me if we win our first game. I could see us having problems with either of those teams. TCU is long and physical and held their own against Kansas twice this year. Seton Hall has just seemed to have our number in the NCAA tournament. We've been eliminated twice by them. As much as I love this team I just see Villanova winning the South. There's a lot of people picking Arizona to win it all but historically we always fall short in those years unfortunately. My guess is we lose in the second round or the Sweet 16. We always seem to run into a buzz saw like Utah in 98 or more recently the Buffalo blowout and we had the number one overall draft pick on that team. I want so badly to pick us to the FF but I just don't see it happening. For now I've got the Zags, UCLA, Nova, and Kansas in my Final Four with the Zags winning the title.
Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:59 am These are the only teams I'm worried about in the South Region:
Bryant
Wright State
Colorado State
Michigan
Tennessee
Longwood
Ohio State
Loyola Chicago
Villanova
Delaware
Illinois
Chattanooga
Houston
UAB
Seton Hall
TCU
Wait, what?EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:02 amMaybe since no team ever beating 3 #1's in route to a Natty?Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:58 amThis would be one of the least likely, most epic championship games of all time.
A first-year coach vs. his boss of 20 years?
Can't think of anything close to this ever happening.
Oregon State’s school charter should be revoked due to that travesty.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:55 amAlso, Oregon State's run is going to be retroactively vacated after their performance this year.