Re: Who's staying? Who's going?
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:49 am
Seems like Chance even if he comes back will likely have grade issues. But get all those guys and lets do this thing in early 2018
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The NCAA did him a favor, they didnt screw him.Gilbertcat wrote:I really expected him to leave. I would because I would be sick of the NCAA. Dont know what he would have made but I bet he wouldnt be playing in sold out arenas next year like he is now. Get his hype up, get some players around him and lets win some games.
This post didn't age well.CalStateTempe wrote:Trier is such as dick.
Frankly he deserves the laughing emojis for how he fucked us in the tournament.
LolChicat wrote:This post didn't age well.CalStateTempe wrote:Trier is such as dick.
Frankly he deserves the laughing emojis for how he fucked us in the tournament.
Looking at the rosters of this years Final Four teams, I'll take Trier over Bowen 10 times out of 10.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
I'd rather have Alkins than Bowen. Not even close really.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
Junior Zo >>> Freshman Bowen. Not even a debate to me. 2018 will be a huge classMerkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
Trier will be an assassin next year. Bowen would be a highly talented player who has to adjust to the college level, struggle to fit in with the program's system, show some flashes of why his ceiling is high, and then get poked in the eye in the first half of an elimination tourney game and leave us with few clear memories of him in an Arizona uniform.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
lol people were losing their shit last nightbillk78 wrote:Im glad we got those 20 billion retweets for Trier.
I don't think a grad transfer PG is remotely in the cards any more, regardless how many debates you and I had about itPennZona20 wrote:I now think the realistic best case scenario is the 9 known players we have ..... get alkins back. Get chance back. Get cam Johnson. And go find a grad transfer senior for pg to compete w PJC.
I don't think Duval is realistic, nor Bowen, and I think I might rather have junior cam Johnson for two years as opposed to one and done Bowen for one to be honest. I'd probably rather have McCoy than chance but I think chance is more likely if he thinks in reality land instead of fantasy land. Just because he's missed some classes doesn't mean he's failing. A lot of stuff can be sumbmitted online. Wishful thinking maybe.
Alkins and Trier is the ticket.Beachcat97 wrote:I'd rather have Alkins than Bowen. Not even close really.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
ChooChooCat wrote:I don't think a grad transfer PG is remotely in the cards any more, regardless how many debates you and I had about itPennZona20 wrote:I now think the realistic best case scenario is the 9 known players we have ..... get alkins back. Get chance back. Get cam Johnson. And go find a grad transfer senior for pg to compete w PJC.
I don't think Duval is realistic, nor Bowen, and I think I might rather have junior cam Johnson for two years as opposed to one and done Bowen for one to be honest. I'd probably rather have McCoy than chance but I think chance is more likely if he thinks in reality land instead of fantasy land. Just because he's missed some classes doesn't mean he's failing. A lot of stuff can be sumbmitted online. Wishful thinking maybe.
Hell the guy hasn't even announced he's transferring, so kinda hard to move on a guy when that's the case. I think focus is primarily on Cam Johnson as the grad transfer, with the guy from Rice and Chase Jeter in the mix for the normal sit out transfer. I'm still holding out for a grad transfer PG, but yeah sounds like we're rolling with PJC and Barcello to my dismay.PennZona20 wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:I don't think a grad transfer PG is remotely in the cards any more, regardless how many debates you and I had about itPennZona20 wrote:I now think the realistic best case scenario is the 9 known players we have ..... get alkins back. Get chance back. Get cam Johnson. And go find a grad transfer senior for pg to compete w PJC.
I don't think Duval is realistic, nor Bowen, and I think I might rather have junior cam Johnson for two years as opposed to one and done Bowen for one to be honest. I'd probably rather have McCoy than chance but I think chance is more likely if he thinks in reality land instead of fantasy land. Just because he's missed some classes doesn't mean he's failing. A lot of stuff can be sumbmitted online. Wishful thinking maybe.
Wtf choo!!!! U finally get me to come around on the subject and now u tell me no go on it!
Have u heard anything about Rowan from ur sources ? I'm starting to think he's only an option if we don't get Cam. It would be a logjam at wing for next few years to get both.
Such a dick. So selfish.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
ChooChooCat wrote:Hell the guy hasn't even announced he's transferring, so kinda hard to move on a guy when that's the case. I think focus is primarily on Cam Johnson as the grad transfer, with the guy from Rice and Chase Jeter in the mix for the normal sit out transfer. I'm still holding out for a grad transfer PG, but yeah sounds like we're rolling with PJC and Barcello to my dismay.PennZona20 wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:I don't think a grad transfer PG is remotely in the cards any more, regardless how many debates you and I had about itPennZona20 wrote:I now think the realistic best case scenario is the 9 known players we have ..... get alkins back. Get chance back. Get cam Johnson. And go find a grad transfer senior for pg to compete w PJC.
I don't think Duval is realistic, nor Bowen, and I think I might rather have junior cam Johnson for two years as opposed to one and done Bowen for one to be honest. I'd probably rather have McCoy than chance but I think chance is more likely if he thinks in reality land instead of fantasy land. Just because he's missed some classes doesn't mean he's failing. A lot of stuff can be sumbmitted online. Wishful thinking maybe.
Wtf choo!!!! U finally get me to come around on the subject and now u tell me no go on it!
Have u heard anything about Rowan from ur sources ? I'm starting to think he's only an option if we don't get Cam. It would be a logjam at wing for next few years to get both.
I don't know if Ayton will demand the ball in the interior...he might be more likely to have his hand up calling for a perimeter pass. Hopefully he gains post play skills as the season progresses. But I think the dynamic will be different, Trier will be more settled having played all year (not rushing to catch up), and we should have some better options on the wings (especially if we have a 2nd year Rawle), so Trier won't need to force as much. As bad as Xavier was, no one else took shots during that time and we were running low in the shot clock a LOT. I feel like most that Trier was too assertive in the Xavier game, but no one exactly took the ball and made a statement, and after he had 15 straight points, I think most of us were like "OK...shoot again." Other than Xavier and times vs SMC, I thought Zo did a perfectly fine job of being the aggressor/alpha scorer without going what we old timers used to call "going Terry DeHare" (Seton Hall guard among national leaders in scoring, seemingly on 7 - 23 shooting every night).PennZona20 wrote:2.5 years for Trier lol. Not sure he stays if he plays all ear last year.
I'm, for one, freaking stoked to get Trier back. He will only get better and he will be preseason AA next year. He's gonna be great. If it costs us Bowen so be it.
Ayton has more alpha in him than Lauri. I'm pretty sure he will demand the ball more on the interior and there won't be a game where he goes 12 min in crunch time without a FGA where he's on the floor. That kid is going to EAT all day in the post at the college level.
I think that Bowen could still fit in.....especially if Alkins leaves. Triers best spot would be shooting guard and Bowen is really a small forward. If both Alkins/Trier return then we would certainly have a logjam.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
Let's just hope Junior 5 star Trier can take us where we want to go and it won't matter if we get a senior TrierJefe wrote:Wow I did not see Trier coming back. Great news.
Too soon to start talking about 5 star senior Trier? Ya, too soon
dmjcat wrote:I think that Bowen could still fit in.....especially if Alkins leaves. Triers best spot would be shooting guard and Bowen is really a small forward. If both Alkins/Trier return then we would certainly have a logjam.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
Bowen only fits without Alkins. If Rawle returns, he and Zo are both going to hog the wing minutes.dmjcat wrote:I think that Bowen could still fit in.....especially if Alkins leaves. Triers best spot would be shooting guard and Bowen is really a small forward. If both Alkins/Trier return then we would certainly have a logjam.Merkin wrote:Scheer tweeted that Bowen probably won't come now but I'll take Trier.
Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.
Depends on Comanche. I'd like another PF option if Comanche isn't back.YoDeFoe wrote:I only want Johnson or Bowen if we don't get Alkins back.
Johnson is just a very tall SG - he rebounds about as well a Kadeem Allen did last year. Rawle has better rebounding and block numbers. His 2.7 fouls drawn per 40 would be the lowest on the 2016-17 team (lower than PJC).
Really don't see him making it as a PF. This Cam kid isn't east coast tough.
Trier returning means no Bowen, so I'm trying to live in the now.YoDeFoe wrote:Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.
This interests me. Why?ChooChooCat wrote:Trier returning means no Bowen, so I'm trying to live in the now.YoDeFoe wrote:Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.
Spaceman Spiff wrote:This interests me. Why?ChooChooCat wrote:Trier returning means no Bowen, so I'm trying to live in the now.YoDeFoe wrote:Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.
I was born a premie. Does that qualify?UAEebs86 wrote:Spaceman Spiff wrote:This interests me. Why?ChooChooCat wrote:Trier returning means no Bowen, so I'm trying to live in the now.YoDeFoe wrote:Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.
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To be honest I don't know, but I've always been told Trier's departure was the key to Bowen's commitment, hell our recruitment of him was built around the fact that we never thought we'd have Zo back next season. I get that he could play along side Zo as they are different positions, but I don't think he wants to. You can come to your own conclusions there.Spaceman Spiff wrote:This interests me. Why?ChooChooCat wrote:Trier returning means no Bowen, so I'm trying to live in the now.YoDeFoe wrote:Bowen just as easily fits multiple positions as Rawle or Johnson (the two or three).ChooChooCat wrote:I'd take Rawle and Johnson. Both fit numerous positions.