Re: Deandre Ayton
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:20 pm
Sorta think Pac-12 Network is one day gonna be remembered as the "New Coke" of sports cable. They tried it, it didn't work, it was gone within a few years.
1stNGrant Frys wrote:I think Derrick Williams has been skewed due to his terrible NBA career and the dopey persona that he didn't seem to have in college. Even if you could call them offensively equal, I guess Dwills defense was only hero-plays.Gladiator Cat wrote:Lando05 wrote:Best player in U of A history
Man I love me some Sean Elliot, but Ayton is on a whole different level. Best player in our proud history no doubt.
They barely have the score...it's not like they couldn't show that on the front page.Chicat wrote:Maybe they don’t get the Pac-12 Network.CatFanOneMil wrote:ESPN is definitely dissing on Ayton...not one highlight, not even a mention of our win over UCLA tonite...
Bear Down and one more thing...FUCK ESPN!
I remember someone on the old board linking to UNC, KU etc forums and they were all in absolute shock and joy.Merkin wrote:1stNGrant Frys wrote:I think Derrick Williams has been skewed due to his terrible NBA career and the dopey persona that he didn't seem to have in college. Even if you could call them offensively equal, I guess Dwills defense was only hero-plays.Gladiator Cat wrote:Lando05 wrote:Best player in U of A history
Man I love me some Sean Elliot, but Ayton is on a whole different level. Best player in our proud history no doubt.
Derrick Williams v. Duke is legendary.
32 points.
What a game.
Ayton is probably the best player the UA has ever had, but he isn't legendary.
Yet.
No one remembers PAC-12 tourney games.
Yeah. This is what I've been thinking for a while. The reason that Miles Simon is a name known by every AZ fan is because of what he and his teammates did in the spring of '97. Take that run away, and I'm not sure Miles is getting his jersey retired at McKale.Merkin wrote:Ayton is probably the best player the UA has ever had, but he isn't legendary.
Yet.
No one remembers PAC-12 tourney games.
Yeah, loved the sip of water at the end. Need a gif of that.YoDeFoe wrote:Magic was on the sideline giggling like a school girl after one of Ayton’s jumpers. He just looked so impressed.
indeedMerkin wrote:1stNGrant Frys wrote:I think Derrick Williams has been skewed due to his terrible NBA career and the dopey persona that he didn't seem to have in college. Even if you could call them offensively equal, I guess Dwills defense was only hero-plays.Gladiator Cat wrote:Lando05 wrote:Best player in U of A history
Man I love me some Sean Elliot, but Ayton is on a whole different level. Best player in our proud history no doubt.
Derrick Williams v. Duke is legendary.
32 points.
What a game.
Ayton is probably the best player the UA has ever had, but he isn't legendary.
Yet.
No one remembers PAC-12 tourney games.
Chicat wrote:“Start” talking about NPOY.
That’s the narrative.
My dude has been destroying teams all year, but only now people are starting to notice?
Larry Scott fucks us again. No one has seen the best player in the nation. He might as well have gone to Weber St. for all the exposure the “Conference of Champions” has afforded him.
I feel like there have been fewer opportunities for me to watch games this year (Thanks Larry) which is sad since this was the year we had the Dire Wolf on our team. (They are more rare than unicorns and more baddazz)Chicat wrote:“Start” talking about NPOY.
That’s the narrative.
My dude has been destroying teams all year, but only now people are starting to notice?
Larry Scott fucks us again. No one has seen the best player in the nation. He might as well have gone to Weber St. for all the exposure the “Conference of Champions” has afforded him.
Any team passing on Deandre will live to regret it.Catintheheat wrote:Almost any other year Deandre would be easily the #1 pick. But this year he will be one of the top 3 picks with William Bagley Jr and Luka Doncic.
That’s the shit that gets GMs run out of town by fans and the media.EastCoastCat wrote:Any team passing on Deandre will live to regret it.Catintheheat wrote:Almost any other year Deandre would be easily the #1 pick. But this year he will be one of the top 3 picks with William Bagley Jr and Luka Doncic.
Its been made up since November. There are definitely some scenarios where teams could be looking at Doncic (see the 76ers), but Ayton is clearly the #1 pick, and has been on my board since Game 1.YoDeFoe wrote:Somebody said it but I can't remember who...
All of the NBA guys are saying it's Ayton without a question. Like full stop, no doubt, Deandre is the number one pick.
Something along the lines of "all those guys are special but he's the most special."
While the media and fans may keep up chatter about who goes where, the NBA guys all have their minds made up. Thinking this was on the Bill Simmons podcast... can't recall.
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_ ... rs-top-100" target="_blankDominant Deandre Ayton
While other freshmen have hit a wall, Ayton has steamrolled right through it -- carrying Arizona on his back to a Pac-12 tournament championship and putting up video game numbers in the process.
Watching the film, the biggest takeaway from this weekend is the fact that Ayton is finally fully embracing being a dominant interior-oriented big man. Prone to floating earlier in his career, quick to describe himself as a power forward and never all that eager about doing all the little things that go along with being the biggest, strongest player on the floor, Ayton has put all of that aside over the past few months and turned into an absolute monster. Besides Marvin Bagley, we haven't seen a player put up these type of numbers (24 points and 13 rebounds per 40 minutes while shooting better than 63 percent) at this level since Blake Griffin at Oklahoma in 2009.
While the Pac-12 isn't quite as strong as it normally is, he wasn't doing it against a bunch of nobodies either. Seeing him back down and push around a 6-11, 230-pound potential first-round pick in Chimezie Metu was quite impressive. He established deep post position for easy catches and finishes almost whenever he wanted, putting on an aerial exhibition for the Las Vegas crowd with a series of powerful above-the-rim slams. Not only using power and explosiveness, Ayton also demonstrated all kinds of finesse as well, with incredible body control, footwork and touch around the rim, using both hands creatively. In the rare times he would miss, Ayton would usually grab his own rebound and then put it back calmly.
Ayton also showed a high skill-level stepping outside of the paint, using fall-away jumpers from the baseline and stepping out to the mid-range to knock down 15-18 footers. He made a handful of nice reads and passes, showing the ability to play alongside another 7-footer in Dusan Ristic more cohesively than we had seen in the past.
Most encouraging to see was the amount of energy Ayton expended despite playing three games (and 104 total minutes) in three nights, seemingly not getting the least bit tired down the stretch. His physical gifts were on full display in overtime of the semifinals against UCLA, as we saw him sprinting the floor in a game that he almost single-handedly won for Arizona with 18 second-half points.
Defensively, Ayton had his fair share of lapses over the weekend, despite playing with a fairly strong energy level throughout. He tends to get lost at times off the ball and in pick-and-roll coverages, and he doesn't do a good enough job of making a second effort to reinsert himself back into plays. He had a few nice possessions over the course of the weekend staying in front of drivers from the perimeter thanks to his exceptional combination of strength, quickness and length. Still, you can't help but feel like he has a lot more to offer on this end of the floor, as he's still hampered by his poor awareness and fundamentals.
March is the time for college prospects to shine, and Ayton is taking full advantage of the spotlight he's being given, with a huge contingent of NBA execs following his every move. A very challenging NCAA tournament draw will now give him even more opportunity to showcase himself in front of a national audience and NBA scouts alike, and we'll see how far he can carry Arizona. -- Givony
The article mentioned in the quote from GivonyNBA draft stock watch: Biggest risers, new No. 1 in Top 100
Deandre Ayton | Arizona
7-0 | Fr. | C
Overall ranking: No. 1
All the turmoil around Arizona seems only to have lit a fire underneath Ayton, and he has responded with arguably the best two games of his season in the last 10 days.
After canvassing most of the league in recent weeks, there seems to be somewhat of a consensus forming around Ayton as the "safe pick" at No. 1. Which team ends up getting the pick will obviously play a role, but Ayton's sheer productivity combined with his freakish physical tools are making it increasingly difficult to keep Luka Doncic up top, especially after a somewhat lackluster month of February by his standards.
For a more detailed look at Ayton's strengths, weaknesses, background and more, make sure you check out our deep dive on the Bahamas native from two weeks ago. --Jonathan Givony
Pssh. I said this before the season. Bilas needs to get on my level.TatetheGreat wrote:Bilas: Ayton is a 'Hall of Fame talent'
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=22733066
Whatever Bagley and Ayton are doing below the cutoff in that picture, Ayton is enjoying it more.Main Event wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I'd need to double-check, but I'm 99% sure we've not had a Naismith winner.
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Has Ayton declared yet????
Gonna have to get sister Jean on it.
Yes, yes he will, should have been more specific when I talked to sister Jean.PennZona20 wrote:I love this kid. He will be the best pro UA has ever produced.