Ban Bill Walton Petition

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:41 pm

I rarely watch any game without it being muted. Walton or not.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:44 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Nice to see him on multiple Arizona games. He is a national treasure and makes the games so much more fun
And I'll continue to mute every game that he calls which isn't a blowout in our favor.

I use the mute button with Bill, not always, but often. Truth be told, although I have little in common ideologically with Dave Pasch, no one deserves the Walton mute button more than that dude.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:46 pm

It's Dave, right?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:49 pm

He was especially bad last night bagging on Arizona.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:09 pm

I had the volume up off and on, but I assume it was Pasch ripping AZ? Walton is generally complimentary about AZ, the program, and its history. He is not always lucid, but he doesn’t usually do a hit job. One expects an imbecile like Pasch to follow the ESPN mandate on AZ.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:17 pm

midnightx wrote:I had the volume up off and on, but I assume it was Pasch ripping AZ? Walton is generally complimentary about AZ, the program, and its history. He is not always lucid, but he doesn’t usually do a hit job. One expects an imbecile like Pasch to follow the ESPN mandate on AZ.

No Pasch last night or tonight.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:40 pm

midnightx wrote:I had the volume up off and on, but I assume it was Pasch ripping AZ? Walton is generally complimentary about AZ, the program, and its history. He is not always lucid, but he doesn’t usually do a hit job. One expects an imbecile like Pasch to follow the ESPN mandate on AZ.

No it was an editorial decision from on high. They published a timeline graphic that was technically correct but used outright maliciously incomplete or irrelevant facts to paint a far uglier picture than should be painted. The most dramatic was listing Ayton’s family receiving payments, full stop, implying he was paid to come to Arizona when in fact if it happened it was Adidas associated people paying his family so he would go to Kansas. Just really shocking mis/disinformation attempting to paint the worst possible picture.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:14 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:It's Dave, right?

Dave is not in Hawaii, but he had people tweeting at him thinking he is. Some dumb schmuck got sent there to be abused by Bill

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:31 pm

He’s from Chicago and was last in Maui 3 years ago. And he’s not married.

He had no idea how to handle Walton

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:46 pm

prh wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:It's Dave, right?
Dave is not in Hawaii, but he had people tweeting at him thinking he is. Some dumb schmuck got sent there to be abused by Bill

I know he's not. I was recapitulating Walton's abuse of Pasch, who, for any reason that might resonate with you, deserves it. I hope I also made it obvious that Walton deserves abuse at the hands of anyone who thinks he deserves it for reasons beyond his ideological disagreements with Pasch.

It's a marketplace of fuck you. Both of these retailers take their dollars and move on to their next gig.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:16 pm

hey bill, who the fuck is the big red nation?

stfu and go pop some pain relief man

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:22 pm

All you Bill Walton lovers loving this tonight? Do you also enjoy zipping your pecker up into your fly?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:45 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:41 pm

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:38 pm

They tried waaaaaaay too hard with that tonight. It's not as fun when you mention it every 5 minutes.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:46 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:31 pm

I am the biggest Bill Walton hater you know ...... but tonight has been magic.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:25 am

Since some people are so angered by Bill Walton getting in the way of the game they're trying to watch, I propose a compromise:

Bill Walton doing color commentary for a contest of treading water.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:43 am

I'd like to see him calling the National Spelling Bee.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:20 pm

Now I know where he got his stuff:

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:45 am

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:32 am

I hope they asked him some probing questions. Not about Bill Walton.

terryarms · Post by **terryarms** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:51 am

UAEebs86 wrote:

Old uniforms still displayed on the walls : (

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:04 pm

I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:08 pm

Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.

How to be a pompous ass with zero sense of humor?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:10 pm

84Cat wrote:
Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.
How to be a pompous ass with zero sense of humor?

That jesus had a pet dinosaur.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:16 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.
How to be a pompous ass with zero sense of humor?
That jesus had a pet dinosaur.

I can learn that on the interwebs & Dave Pasch has nothing on Sarah P

https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/most-popul ... saurs.html" target="_blank

https://madmikesamerica.com/2010/09/oh- ... o-existed/" target="_blank

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:20 pm

84Cat wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.
How to be a pompous ass with zero sense of humor?
That jesus had a pet dinosaur.
I can learn that on the interwebs & Dave Pasch has nothing on Sarah P

https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/most-popul ... saurs.html" target="_blank

https://madmikesamerica.com/2010/09/oh- ... o-existed/" target="_blank

It's worse than that you know: everywhere the Hubble telescope is aimed.....all it sees is Satan.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:32 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.
How to be a pompous ass with zero sense of humor?
That jesus had a pet dinosaur.

That was what I was thinking. Maybe there are some very specific things he can enlighten young people about, but Pasch definitely needs a tighter leash than Bill Walton.

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:23 pm

Chicat wrote:I’m struggling to figure out what they could have possibly learned from Pasch.

Pasch has done his time in the trenches to get to where he is as a broadcaster, regardless of his belief system, he seems to be a solid guy and rarely wanders to far off of target (which working with Bill Walton requires super human stamina and persistence)...

I think he might have some insight to offer the guys on how to approach sports journalists and how to give a decent interview, maybe some wisdom on avoiding social media "gotcha's"...

Pasch if nothing else is a clean broadcaster...clean in todays culture is starting to be rarer than Jesus Dinosaurs...

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:15 pm

Notwithstanding my kneejerk snarkyness, I doubt Pasch would have even brought it up if not for Bill being stone deaf and stuck-on-transmit. I don't get the impression Pasch is an in-your-face evangelical, in fact he's probably the same measured guy whether he's alone with you or in a room full of people or in front of a nation wide camera broadcast. Bill, on the other hand, may be a regular, fun, and interesting guy all by himself, but in front of the bullhorn audience and he's a yammering rudderless runaway train of thought that makes all stops on the way to nowhere.

Of all the relentlessly enumerated fractures Walton has touted I have repressed whether one of them was his mandible. If I was Pasch, Walton would have had one more and I'd be out of a job and on parole.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:32 pm

Pasch is an exceptional broadcaster. I very much enjoy his preparedness and professionalism.

We may not share a lot of beliefs about fossils or climate change or the book of revelations, but I trust him to opine on matters of broadcasting and media relations. Hopefully the players gained from the talk.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:31 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Pasch is an exceptional broadcaster. I very much enjoy his preparedness and professionalism.

We may not share a lot of beliefs about fossils or climate change or the book of revelations, but I trust him to opine on matters of broadcasting and media relations. Hopefully the players gained from the talk.

I'm in total agreement. But I'm agreeing to a bizarre combination that says a lot about how we negotiate today's world.

It's like your mother visiting you from St. Paul, and being taken aback when she realizes that your neighborhood ice cream man who hands treats to your kids is the same guy she saw in your local supermarket parking lot wearing just a pair of tighty whities. And you say, "He may wander around parking lots in his tighty whities, but I trust him to hand treats to my children."

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:13 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Pasch is an exceptional broadcaster. I very much enjoy his preparedness and professionalism.

We may not share a lot of beliefs about fossils or climate change or the book of revelations, but I trust him to opine on matters of broadcasting and media relations. Hopefully the players gained from the talk.

As someone who hailed from the basic same paradigm world that Dave resides in I can vouch for the mixture that seems contrarian to those who espouse a more academic approach to life...

Consider our current climate of "fake news" or even better look at all the ways science of diet has changed its tune in the last many years...science in general makes adjustments on a regular basis, things once thought certain shift.

We are ALL skeptics in one form or another, some (most nowadays) are skeptical of religious/myth/etc...and those who are in the religious/myth/etc community are skeptical of science and shifting data...

"Coffee is bad for you" becomes "Coffee has health benefits"

"Fat is bad for you" use Canola oil becomes "Seed oils are making us all obese"

"Carbs are essential" now its "To many carbs not enough red meat cause insulin resistance" (See PD Mangan for the best reviews here)...

My point being that science by nature has moving data points and there has been a hostility to people of faith (competition for money or something I dunno)...

People of faith are skeptical of sciences intentions...mainly because when science paints people of faith it uses a broad brush to imply they are ALL people of dumb...which is not even remotely true...there are many sound scientist who ARE people of faith as well...science cannot explain everything yet.

As far as evolution and dinosaurs and faith THAT particular argument hangs on carbon dating for people of faith...(incorrectly so but nonetheless)...add to that skepticism that science has a long history of correcting itself and you are more concerned with your close knit family and community of support than you are for things far away (like the forest in Brazil) and its not hard to imagine why Dave might come across as skeptical of Bills rants regarding him destroying the future for his kids...Bill pushes science, but he might be the worst spokesperson for that debate on the planet.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:27 am

Many of your examples above are because industry knows how to get the scientific results they want. Fats are still the primary driver of insulin resistance, not carbs although processed carbs are never good for you in any circumstance(check out the Harvard Nutrition site: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritions ... ull-story/" target="_blank). Industry learned from the cigarette industry how to get their story out before the science does.

To get back to the Pasch story, I will admit that he comes prepared but he brings no insight to the game for me. The paring of Walton/Pasch is idiotic in my view. Their run together has run its course and it's time for fresh voices.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:41 am

I'm not saying anyone is dumb. I'm saying the belief that world is 5,000 years old is bonkers, and it's good to remember how Pasch doubled down on that idea during an actual broadcast. Sure, maybe he has some very useful advice for player interactions with the media, and that's an important thing. But there's a lot of freshmen in that room, and they're listening, so hopefully he stays on track for 30 minutes.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:46 am

84Cat wrote:The paring of Walton/Pasch is idiotic in my view. Their run together has run its course and it's time for fresh voices.

It's like so many things in Larry Scott's PAC-12: You take a good idea, or even a bad idea... and either way, you ignore the limitations, and protract it until you make it hard on everyone involved. This is Division 1 college sports. It's supposed to be fun, and make money for the athletic programs.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:40 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Pasch is an exceptional broadcaster. I very much enjoy his preparedness and professionalism.

We may not share a lot of beliefs about fossils or climate change or the book of revelations, but I trust him to opine on matters of broadcasting and media relations. Hopefully the players gained from the talk.

This.

Why the original post about Pasch talking to the team has gone this many posts is beyond me. I mean do you guys honestly think he was spouting off about climate change or jesus to the team? Not every thing has to be political in 2019.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:00 pm

In broadcasting, media, entertainment, etc...it's very simple: "They love you. Until they don't love you anymore."

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:33 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Pasch is an exceptional broadcaster. I very much enjoy his preparedness and professionalism.

We may not share a lot of beliefs about fossils or climate change or the book of revelations, but I trust him to opine on matters of broadcasting and media relations. Hopefully the players gained from the talk.
This.

Why the original post about Pasch talking to the team has gone this many posts is beyond me. I mean do you guys honestly think he was spouting off about climate change or jesus to the team? Not every thing has to be political in 2019.

That's not what anybody said, and it wasn't political. I think we all agree he has valuable things to say in spite of his absurd statements on a live television broadcast while kids are watching a sporting event. Just because we can't all agree on the value of Walton, it doesn't mean Pasch is off the hook.

prh · Post by **prh** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:35 pm

I recently heard Pasch doing a broadcast of not-basketball, also not-Walton, and was pleasantly surprised. I think he'd have a much different broadcast career if he wasn't stuck babysitting Walton, which prevents him from appearing to have any sort of talent.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:35 pm

zonagrad wrote:In broadcasting, media, entertainment, etc...it's very simple: "They love you. Until they don't love you anymore."

This doesn't apply to Charles Barkley, though.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:17 pm

Longhorned wrote:I'm not saying anyone is dumb. I'm saying the belief that world is 5,000 years old is bonkers, and it's good to remember how Pasch doubled down on that idea during an actual broadcast. Sure, maybe he has some very useful advice for player interactions with the media, and that's an important thing. But there's a lot of freshmen in that room, and they're listening, so hopefully he stays on track for 30 minutes.

6, 000+ years, we aren't that crazy to think it's only 5,000 years old, that's ridiculous.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:30 pm

prh wrote:I recently heard Pasch doing a broadcast of not-basketball, also not-Walton, and was pleasantly surprised. I think he'd have a much different broadcast career if he wasn't stuck babysitting Walton, which prevents him from appearing to have any sort of talent.

I've heard him do college football (I think?) or some other sport and it was jarring. He's just really good at his job - especially if he's around other professionals.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:59 am

YoDeFoe wrote:
prh wrote:I recently heard Pasch doing a broadcast of not-basketball, also not-Walton, and was pleasantly surprised. I think he'd have a much different broadcast career if he wasn't stuck babysitting Walton, which prevents him from appearing to have any sort of talent.
I've heard him do college football (I think?) or some other sport and it was jarring. He's just really good at his job - especially if he's around other professionals.

Yes, he does college football.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:01 am

Longhorned wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
prh wrote:I recently heard Pasch doing a broadcast of not-basketball, also not-Walton, and was pleasantly surprised. I think he'd have a much different broadcast career if he wasn't stuck babysitting Walton, which prevents him from appearing to have any sort of talent.
I've heard him do college football (I think?) or some other sport and it was jarring. He's just really good at his job - especially if he's around other professionals.
Yes, he does college football.

He's also the radio guy for the Arizona Cardinals.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:25 pm

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:32 pm

hero

“I love cougars here in Maui”

Bill Walton

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:05 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:38 pm

My buddy who is helping me renovate my basement* just said, “I tried to watch that USC game last night but had to turn it off. Walton is unlistenable.”

*For you west coasters, a basement is an area under your house where you hide from tornadoes and your family

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