let's talk '20

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:37 pm

It is early. Does anyone with any inside insight know if AZ is in play for any top 25 guys?

Even if Miller suspects sanctions down the road, it does not explain why he would prefer to take an alternative path of focusing on 4 star guys when both Louisville and USC loaded up with highly ranked players during their periods of distress. Seriously, people are surprised at Arizona's incoming class, how about what Louisville did under more scrutiny and perhaps under the prospect of facing greater sanctions.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:46 pm

midnightx wrote:It is early. Does anyone with any inside insight know if AZ is in play for any top 25 guys?

Even if Miller suspects sanctions down the road, it does not explain why he would prefer to take an alternative path of focusing on 4 star guys when both Louisville and USC loaded up with highly ranked players during their periods of distress. Seriously, people are surprised at Arizona's incoming class, how about what Louisville did under more scrutiny and perhaps under the prospect of facing greater sanctions.

I am sure there are more....

Guys we seem to be in the mix with:
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:00 pm

midnightx wrote: Yeah, there have been a number of five-star and high ranked four-stars that have come through here that do not live up to the billing, not even close. Akot and Randolph are two recent players that come to mind.

Alex Barcello, 4 star, 17th ranked PG, top player in AZ, ranked 83rd nationally: https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Baske ... l&State=AZ" target="_blank

Although I thought Ayton was in the same class?

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:25 pm

So what is the deal with USC? What AAU/shoe relationship is landing them all their talent? Looks like they might have a commitment for the number one recruit in ‘20?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:34 pm

midnightx wrote:So what is the deal with USC? What AAU/shoe relationship is landing them all their talent? Looks like they might have a commitment for the number one recruit in ‘20?

The college positions itself with the influencers. If you're good with the influencers, you trust the remainder to work out, and do the the rest of the recruiting.

Who the influencers are is an individual question.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:11 am

midnightx wrote:So what is the deal with USC? What AAU/shoe relationship is landing them all their talent? Looks like they might have a commitment for the number one recruit in ‘20?

They hired his dad (Eric Mobley) as asst coach in 2018.
His son is 5★ - #1 overall recruit Evan Mobley in 2020. His other son is Isiah Mobley, 5★ - #17 overall recruit in 2019.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:18 am

baycat93 wrote:
midnightx wrote:It is early. Does anyone with any inside insight know if AZ is in play for any top 25 guys?

Even if Miller suspects sanctions down the road, it does not explain why he would prefer to take an alternative path of focusing on 4 star guys when both Louisville and USC loaded up with highly ranked players during their periods of distress. Seriously, people are surprised at Arizona's incoming class, how about what Louisville did under more scrutiny and perhaps under the prospect of facing greater sanctions.
I am sure there are more....

Guys we seem to be in the mix with:
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215

1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205 - Probably best point guard in the class, so every one will be on him, will be tough
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180 - Working from behind here, but we're putting in the effort
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170 - Battle to the death with UW
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180 - Stanford and UNC will be hard to top
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220 - Maybe we can make up ground, but we're not even in his top 10 or 15 or whatever at the moment

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200 - Probably ASU bound
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170 - Not gonna happen
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215 - Not gonna happen

2020 class will be much different than the 2019 class. More 3 and 4 stars than usual.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:24 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
midnightx wrote:So what is the deal with USC? What AAU/shoe relationship is landing them all their talent? Looks like they might have a commitment for the number one recruit in ‘20?
The college positions itself with the influencers. If you're good with the influencers, you trust the remainder to work out, and do the the rest of the recruiting.

Who the influencers are is an individual question.

Andy Enfield is a horrible coach, but a great recruiter. California Nike kids that want to stay local and either A. wanted nothing to do with Steve Alford or B. had Nike pushing them away from UnderArmour found comfort in USC.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:34 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:
I am sure there are more....

Guys we seem to be in the mix with:
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205 - Probably best point guard in the class, so every one will be on him, will be tough
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180 - Working from behind here, but we're putting in the effort
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170 - Battle to the death with UW
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180 - Stanford and UNC will be hard to top
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220 - Maybe we can make up ground, but we're not even in his top 10 or 15 or whatever at the moment

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200 - Probably ASU bound
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170 - Not gonna happen
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215 - Not gonna happen

2020 class will be much different than the 2019 class. More 3 and 4 stars than usual.

Yeah it looks rough early.

Really important Doutrieve returns this year and develops, Armstrong doesn't get Doutrieve'd like last year and develops. Lee comes back as a Sr. Williams hopefully stays 3 years, because he likely isn't NBA material.

Barcello Sr.
Lee Sr.
Koloko So.
Armstrong So.
Doutrieve Jr.
Williams Jr.

IDK how good that team is, but if they're all here that could be pretty good experienced team. If Nnaji decides he needs another year, well that's good. If Mannion does as well that's even better. Just need depth with PG, Wings & bigs.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:41 am

NYCat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:
I am sure there are more....

Guys we seem to be in the mix with:
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215
1 Daishan Nix 6'3" 205 - Probably best point guard in the class, so every one will be on him, will be tough
2/1 Nimari Burnett 6'3" 180 - Working from behind here, but we're putting in the effort
2 Marjon Beauchamp 6'6" 170 - Battle to the death with UW
3 Zaire Williams 6'7" 180 - Stanford and UNC will be hard to top
3 Julian Strawther 6'7" 220 - Maybe we can make up ground, but we're not even in his top 10 or 15 or whatever at the moment

Guys we have been mentioned w/ but seem like long shots:
2/1 Joshua Christopher 6'4" 200 - Probably ASU bound
2 Jalen Green 6'5" 170 - Not gonna happen
3 Jalen Johnson 6'8" 215 - Not gonna happen

2020 class will be much different than the 2019 class. More 3 and 4 stars than usual.
Yeah it looks rough early.

Really important Doutrieve returns this year and develops, Armstrong doesn't get Doutrieve'd like last year and develops. Lee comes back as a Sr. Williams hopefully stays 3 years, because he likely isn't NBA material.

Barcello Sr.
Lee Sr.
Koloko So.
Armstrong So.
Doutrieve Jr.
Williams Jr.

IDK how good that team is, but if they're all here that could be pretty good experienced team. If Nnaji decides he needs another year, well that's good. If Mannion does as well that's even better. Just need depth with PG, Wings & bigs.

Yeah the core pieces are certainly there, the only question would be center and overall depth. In theory I really like the starting 1-4.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:01 am

CCC,

If Randolph returns to come off the bench this year... what is the chance he plays his Sr year?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:08 am

baycat93 wrote:CCC,

If Randolph returns to come off the bench this year... what is the chance he plays his Sr year?

In a perfect world I imagine he'd start again as a senior, but that'll depend on his improvement as a player as well as who else we'd recruit for that following year.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:40 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:CCC,

If Randolph returns to come off the bench this year... what is the chance he plays his Sr year?
In a perfect world I imagine he'd start again as a senior, but that'll depend on his improvement as a player as well as who else we'd recruit for that following year.

Based on your post above it does not seem like we are likely to get an immediate impact type player in that recruiting cycle so the opportunity should be there.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 am

baycat93 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:CCC,

If Randolph returns to come off the bench this year... what is the chance he plays his Sr year?
In a perfect world I imagine he'd start again as a senior, but that'll depend on his improvement as a player as well as who else we'd recruit for that following year.
Based on your post above it does not seem like we are likely to get an immediate impact type player in that recruiting cycle so the opportunity should be there.

It's early, so we'll see what happens.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:51 pm

Arizona: "Coach Justin Gainey we had a previous relationship when he was at Marquette so just having that type of relationship with Coach Gainey and Coach (Sean) Miller, they've made it clear that they want me there. The class they have coming in is really good and I could see myself playing there. It was beautiful there and they have this thing called Phoenix Push where a lot of their big guards like Stanley Johnson and Aaron Gordon have pushed the ball and they compare me to that."

lol wut

I've never heard that term before

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:02 pm

"Phoenix Push" ?

Apparently it's not the same as "Go back to Phoenix"

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:04 pm

It’s what comes after that light night drunken taco bell run. Run for the border and do the Phoenix Push!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:54 pm

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:31 pm

Two Minnesota bigs.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:57 pm

Recruiting live period is starting, coaches will be likely be watching a ton of recruits

Arizona wants him to replace Mannion/Green - who they think are 1st rounders

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu May 02, 2019 11:47 am

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu May 02, 2019 12:22 pm

azgreg wrote:

Thank the Lord - I'll get to see my Cats in SoCal every year now.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu May 02, 2019 2:45 pm

azgreg wrote:

Can we finally set up a conference challenge with another conference, the Big 12 has two of them set up with the Big East and SEC! Even mid major conferences have them now.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu May 02, 2019 2:48 pm

NYCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Can we finally set up a conference challenge with another conference, the Big 12 has two of them set up with the Big East and SEC! Even mid major conferences have them now.

Our conference challenge is getting people to actually be able to see the games.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu May 02, 2019 2:49 pm

Chicat wrote:
NYCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Can we finally set up a conference challenge with another conference, the Big 12 has two of them set up with the Big East and SEC! Even mid major conferences have them now.
Our conference challenge is getting people to actually be able to see the games.

Ah yes, the greatest of challenges.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu May 02, 2019 2:53 pm

Chicat wrote:
NYCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Can we finally set up a conference challenge with another conference, the Big 12 has two of them set up with the Big East and SEC! Even mid major conferences have them now.
Our conference challenge is getting people to actually be able to see the games.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Thu May 02, 2019 3:56 pm

Anyone with insight on how we are doing with marjon beauchamp?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu May 02, 2019 4:28 pm

baycat93 wrote:Anyone with insight on how we are doing with marjon beauchamp?

Top 2 at the moment.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu May 02, 2019 4:29 pm

Chicat wrote:
NYCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Can we finally set up a conference challenge with another conference, the Big 12 has two of them set up with the Big East and SEC! Even mid major conferences have them now.
Our conference challenge is getting people to actually be able to see the games.

Just thought about how our ESPN games will end up, literally every one will have to be Pasch/Walton and the FBI will be brought up every game, multiple times.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Thu May 02, 2019 4:43 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:Anyone with insight on how we are doing with marjon beauchamp?
Top 2 at the moment.

UW the competition?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu May 02, 2019 5:40 pm

baycat93 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
baycat93 wrote:Anyone with insight on how we are doing with marjon beauchamp?
Top 2 at the moment.
UW the competition?

The main competition, yes.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm

So Terry Armstrong deleted all his Arizona references from social media

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sat May 04, 2019 6:13 pm

Arizona - Duke - Kentucky - Wisconsin

Duke is the early heavy favorite and most likely the inevitable destination

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat May 04, 2019 7:30 pm

Any chance, Choo?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun May 05, 2019 5:13 am

Beachcat97 wrote:Any chance, Choo?

Nah.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed May 15, 2019 6:33 am

NYCat wrote:Two Minnesota bigs.

Hard to imagine Miller goes 2 for 2 in Minnesota

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed May 15, 2019 10:38 am

We got a crystal ball pick for Donovan Johnson (UNCs Cam Johnson's brother) from Brian Snow, who's pretty good with his picks

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution ... edictions/" target="_blank

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed May 15, 2019 12:29 pm

NYCat wrote:We got a crystal ball pick for Donovan Johnson (UNCs Cam Johnson's brother) from Brian Snow, who's pretty good with his picks

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution ... edictions/" target="_blank

Puff Johnson... love it. Gimme those three point shooters.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue May 28, 2019 6:06 pm

Arizona offers four star top 50 2020 PG Caleb Love.

https://247sports.com/Player/Caleb-Love-46049829/

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:39 pm

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:03 am

Beauchamp isn't visiting us, he's visiting his future school in Scottsdale. He'll eventually visit us though.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:32 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Beauchamp isn't visiting us, he's visiting his future school in Scottsdale. He'll eventually visit us though.

Not according to David Rosen, https://zonazealots.com/2019/06/17/ariz ... beauchamp/" target="_blank.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:09 am

Irish27 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Beauchamp isn't visiting us, he's visiting his future school in Scottsdale. He'll eventually visit us though.
Not according to David Rosen, https://zonazealots.com/2019/06/17/ariz ... beauchamp/" target="_blank.

Trust me.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

ChooChooCat wrote: 2020 class will be much different than the 2019 class. More 3 and 4 stars than usual.

Is it still looking that way or have things changed.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:05 am

NYCat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote: 2020 class will be much different than the 2019 class. More 3 and 4 stars than usual.
Is it still looking that way or have things changed.

Sean Miller is a bigger witch than I gave him credit for. Not sure he ultimately lands Ziaire, but pulling even with Furd & UNC is damn impressive.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:34 am

Well ESPIN and Schlongbach will say Miller is handing out 1000 bills up in Colorado

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:01 am

Big up to Robert Sarver for the recruiting assist, by taking a recruit's brother way over the slot he should've been drafted. At least Sarver does something right for once.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:15 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Big up to Robert Sarver for the recruiting assist, by taking a recruit's brother way over the slot he should've been drafted. At least Sarver does something right for once.

Reclassification candidate potentially?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:45 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Big up to Robert Sarver for the recruiting assist, by taking a recruit's brother way over the slot he should've been drafted. At least Sarver does something right for once.
Reclassification candidate potentially?

He's got a bit of work to do if he chooses to go that route. With Cam going to Phoenix now that will give the family even more of a reason than he already had to choose to go that route. Not a done deal yet though. Keep an eye on some movement coming soon (non-Puff related).

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:17 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Big up to Robert Sarver for the recruiting assist, by taking a recruit's brother way over the slot he should've been drafted. At least Sarver does something right for once.
Reclassification candidate potentially?
He's got a bit of work to do if he chooses to go that route. With Cam going to Phoenix now that will give the family even more of a reason than he already had to choose to go that route. Not a done deal yet though. Keep an eye on some movement coming soon (non-Puff related).

Love it. Would be absolutely thrilled to get Puff, I think he has the makings of a really good role player at worst.

Movement in? Or movement out? This is gonna be a wild offseason isn't it?

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