let's talk '21

Moderators: UAdevil, JMarkJohns

Post Reply
User avatar
NYCat
Posts: 4167
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 1
Location: Scarsdale

let's talk '21

Post by NYCat »

User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 972
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Longhorned »

Another Italian? Ay! Conosciamo il tuo grand' amico che si asomiglia un brodino di carrota!
User avatar
U.P. Zona Fan
Posts: 2634
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:57 pm
Reputation: 405
Location: Big bay, MI

Re: let's talk '21

Post by U.P. Zona Fan »

LH, so You think he's gonna be as good as the ginja ninja? All I got out of that was good and carrot topped. But I'm just being silly.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
User avatar
NYCat
Posts: 4167
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 1
Location: Scarsdale

Re: let's talk '21

Post by NYCat »

User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18116
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 164
Location: tucson, az

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ASUHATER! »

The kids being recruited for this class were 1-2 year old toddlers when I started posting on goazcats. And weren't even alive for 9/11 and when Arizona went to the final 4 last. And were only like 4 when Lute coached his last game.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
NYCat
Posts: 4167
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 1
Location: Scarsdale

Re: let's talk '21

Post by NYCat »

Looks like 2021 will be the last one and done recruiting class.

2022 has Emoni Bates & LeBron's kid so those players will definitely go pro with the 2021 one and done class. Still think quite a bit of non top 15-20 kids will still go to play some college.
Spaceman Spiff
Posts: 14664
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:28 am
Reputation: 1150

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Spaceman Spiff »

NYCat wrote:Looks like 2021 will be the last one and done recruiting class.

2022 has Emoni Bates & LeBron's kid so those players will definitely go pro with the 2021 one and done class. Still think quite a bit of non top 15-20 kids will still go to play some college.
I watched Bates tape the other day. Good lord, he looks like a young Durant.
Image
User avatar
NYCat
Posts: 4167
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 1
Location: Scarsdale

Re: let's talk '21

Post by NYCat »

User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: let's talk '21

Post by YoDeFoe »

Arizona local DaRon Holmes, 2021 6'9" PF https://247sports.com/Player/DaRon-Holmes-46057181/
User avatar
UAEebs86
Posts: 28859
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm
Reputation: 1622
Location: Mohave Dorm Room 417 Buzz 2

Re: let's talk '21

Post by UAEebs86 »

We are the people our parents warned us about.
-JB
2022 Survival Pool Co-Champion
azcat49
Posts: 11047
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:33 pm
Reputation: 956
Location: Gilbert Az

Re: let's talk '21

Post by azcat49 »

Isn’t Askew going to reclassify to next years class?
Waiting at the Rose Bowl patiently for the cats to arrive
"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more wildcat sports"
2019 BDW Survivor Pool Champion
Beachcat97
Posts: 8505
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 454
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Beachcat97 »

Bittle is 6'10, 175. That's skinny!
User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: let's talk '21

Post by YoDeFoe »

Beachcat97 wrote:Bittle is 6'10, 175. That's skinny!
More like Nathan Brittle amirite?
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 972
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Longhorned »

Just no.
User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: let's talk '21

Post by YoDeFoe »

2021 SF Peyton Watson out of revered SoCal high school Long Beach Poly had a "great visit" this past weekend with the team in Tucson.
Nice write-up on his play and potential here. Would make a great follow-up to 2020 wing Dalen Terry - both similarly ranked do-it-all wings with size and length.

Watson used his first official visit to head down to Tucson. He'll be headed up to Washington next weekend. It was about 95-75 degrees in Tucson last weekend (pretty darn nice) and it's forecast to be 60 degrees and rainy next weekend in Seattle. Shoutout to the Sun God for having our back.
goslingswagg
Posts: 585
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 am
Reputation: 33

Re: let's talk '21

Post by goslingswagg »

Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: let's talk '21

Post by YoDeFoe »

goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
Hadn't heard of him, 6'5" SG out of Australia (via New Zealand)... whole family played D1 sports in the US at one point or another. Baylor and Arizona have visits scheduled. More here.
Spaceman Spiff
Posts: 14664
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:28 am
Reputation: 1150

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Spaceman Spiff »

goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
I'd feel better about landing his brother, Sonoran King.
Image
goslingswagg
Posts: 585
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 am
Reputation: 33

Re: let's talk '21

Post by goslingswagg »

YoDeFoe wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
Hadn't heard of him, 6'5" SG out of Australia (via New Zealand)... whole family played D1 sports in the US at one point or another. Baylor and Arizona have visits scheduled. More here.
he's a legitimate 5-star quality player btw...future NBA guy. would love if he re-classed to 2020 also.
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 972
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Longhorned »

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
I'd feel better about landing his brother, Sonoran King.
Congratulations!!!

Image

You're ready for it!
User avatar
U.P. Zona Fan
Posts: 2634
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:57 pm
Reputation: 405
Location: Big bay, MI

Re: let's talk '21

Post by U.P. Zona Fan »

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
I'd feel better about landing his brother, Sonoran King.
Maybe his brother Hawaiian King can set up a food truck with some great pulled pork sandwiches on his signature rolls!
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
luteformayor2
Posts: 280
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:56 am
Reputation: 0

Re: let's talk '21

Post by luteformayor2 »

Does Bibby at Hillcrest Prep help us now with any of their 5 star players?
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

luteformayor2 wrote:Does Bibby at Hillcrest Prep help us now with any of their 5 star players?
Bibby doesn't help recruiting in the slightest. If his presence at Hillcrest amounts to a net zero it'd be the best case scenario.
User avatar
Alieberman
Posts: 13372
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:50 am
Reputation: 2541
Location: I can't find my pants

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Alieberman »

ChooChooCat wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:Does Bibby at Hillcrest Prep help us now with any of their 5 star players?
Bibby doesn't help recruiting in the slightest. If his presence at Hillcrest amounts to a net zero it'd be the best case scenario.
Can you explain this? Is he on the outs with the UofA?
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:Does Bibby at Hillcrest Prep help us now with any of their 5 star players?
Bibby doesn't help recruiting in the slightest. If his presence at Hillcrest amounts to a net zero it'd be the best case scenario.
Can you explain this? Is he on the outs with the UofA?
More of a neutral relationship. Bibby is also a colossal asshole, so he may not be the type of guy you want pushing for your school anyways. In general he very likely won't be involved with recruiting on any level.
SunnyAZ
Posts: 1024
Joined: Sun May 28, 2017 1:07 am
Reputation: 30

Re: let's talk '21

Post by SunnyAZ »

askew is announcing tomorrow
User avatar
A1RZONA
Posts: 204
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:48 pm
Reputation: 13

Re: let's talk '21

Post by A1RZONA »

SunnyAZ wrote:askew is announcing tomorrow
i think choo last mentioned our chances are around 0 unfortunately lol
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

Kentucky
goslingswagg
Posts: 585
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 am
Reputation: 33

Re: let's talk '21

Post by goslingswagg »

Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
gronk4heisman
Posts: 1627
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:01 pm
Reputation: 313

Re: let's talk '21

Post by gronk4heisman »

goslingswagg wrote:Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
Hoping Daishen Nix saw Nico play and realizes we have a lot of minutes at the 1 next year at the best basketball program on the west coast. Preferably before he signs that paper.
User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: let's talk '21

Post by YoDeFoe »

gronk4heisman wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
Hoping Daishen Nix saw Nico play and realizes we have a lot of minutes at the 1 next year at the best basketball program on the west coast. Preferably before he signs that paper.
UCLA is desperate for ball handlers but he sure would have more fun playing amid the McKale Magic rather than in an empty Pauley.
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

gronk4heisman wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
Hoping Daishen Nix saw Nico play and realizes we have a lot of minutes at the 1 next year at the best basketball program on the west coast. Preferably before he signs that paper.
That's a shoe company recruitment, we never had a chance and still don't.
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

goslingswagg wrote:Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
We're going mining down under for our 2021 class that's for sure.
goslingswagg
Posts: 585
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 am
Reputation: 33

Re: let's talk '21

Post by goslingswagg »

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Hoping Mojave saw that Josh Green performance and saw just how good an Australian can be here...
We're going mining down under for our 2021 class that's for sure.
Mojave and Giddey would be beautiful
User avatar
Jefe
Posts: 4932
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
Reputation: 154

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Jefe »

ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

Jefe wrote:
Put it on the 2020 thread Jefe, he'd be part of that class.
User avatar
Jefe
Posts: 4932
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
Reputation: 154

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Jefe »

Oh yeah this is 2019 still huh? haha
dmjcat
Posts: 5340
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 pm
Reputation: 447

Re: let's talk '21

Post by dmjcat »

dmjcat
Posts: 5340
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 pm
Reputation: 447

Re: let's talk '21

Post by dmjcat »

AZ offers top 90 california guard
User avatar
pc in NM
Posts: 4920
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 am
Reputation: 576
Location: Roswell, NM

Re: let's talk '21

Post by pc in NM »

Another bunch of strangers will all that "potential". eh???
“If you have the choice between humble and cocky, go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later, once you've been proven horrendously, irrevocably wrong.”

― Kinky Friedman
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 40948
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1312
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Merkin »

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
I'd feel better about landing his brother, Sonoran King.
UA passed on his brother Sofa though. Bill Walton was very disappointed.
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 44889
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3248
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: let's talk '21

Post by Chicat »

pc in NM wrote:Another bunch of strangers will all that "potential". eh???
Are we supposed to recruit kids with no potential that are somehow already familiar to people like yourself? :?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
User avatar
pc in NM
Posts: 4920
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 am
Reputation: 576
Location: Roswell, NM

Re: let's talk '21

Post by pc in NM »

Chicat wrote:
pc in NM wrote:Another bunch of strangers will all that "potential". eh???
Are we supposed to recruit kids with no potential that are somehow already familiar to people like yourself? :?
Ooh!! I've been scolded!!! :roll: :lol:

There has been a lot of criticism this past season on these boards of CSM's team composition and overall recruiting strategies - I'm responding that threads like this seem to be endorsing exactly those practices and priorities.

That's all....

And I guess I'm bored this week, too....
“If you have the choice between humble and cocky, go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later, once you've been proven horrendously, irrevocably wrong.”

― Kinky Friedman
User avatar
zonagrad
Posts: 1983
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:49 am
Reputation: 167

Re: let's talk '21

Post by zonagrad »

pc in NM wrote:Another bunch of strangers will all that "potential". eh???
This might be the worst post of the week. However, it’s only Tuesday and Captain Obvious still has time. We’ll call you the clubhouse leader for now.
User avatar
UAEebs86
Posts: 28859
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm
Reputation: 1622
Location: Mohave Dorm Room 417 Buzz 2

Re: let's talk '21

Post by UAEebs86 »

zonagrad wrote:
pc in NM wrote:Another bunch of strangers will all that "potential". eh???
This might be the worst post of the week. However, it’s only Tuesday and Captain Obvious still has time. We’ll call you the clubhouse leader for now.

Can I get a piece of that action?

Signed,
enfuego
We are the people our parents warned us about.
-JB
2022 Survival Pool Co-Champion
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 25736
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1326

Re: let's talk '21

Post by azgreg »

RondaeShimmy
Posts: 2637
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:35 pm
Reputation: 432

Re: let's talk '21

Post by RondaeShimmy »

goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
saw on premium he's going pro

it's early but it seems like recruiting in 2021 is going to be tough, don't really lead with anyone early
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

RondaeShimmy wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
saw on premium he's going pro

it's early but it seems like recruiting in 2021 is going to be tough, don't really lead with anyone early
Recruiting is a very fickle thing. How many people had heard of Dalen Terry and Ben Mathurin this time last year?
RondaeShimmy
Posts: 2637
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:35 pm
Reputation: 432

Re: let's talk '21

Post by RondaeShimmy »

ChooChooCat wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
saw on premium he's going pro

it's early but it seems like recruiting in 2021 is going to be tough, don't really lead with anyone early
Recruiting is a very fickle thing. How many people had heard of Dalen Terry and Ben Mathurin this time last year?
i get that but overall it feels like Miller is on shakier/less stable ground this time around, so pretty easy to negatively recruit against

not to mention the fact that the ncaa handing out it's punishment would almost likely effect the players if it's a post season penalty almost immediately

doesn't seem very stable, add to that the fact that this year with a couple top kids didn't really go as well
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8563
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1054

Re: let's talk '21

Post by ChooChooCat »

RondaeShimmy wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Mojave King visiting October 8th-11th...would be a huge get.
saw on premium he's going pro

it's early but it seems like recruiting in 2021 is going to be tough, don't really lead with anyone early
Recruiting is a very fickle thing. How many people had heard of Dalen Terry and Ben Mathurin this time last year?
i get that but overall it feels like Miller is on shakier/less stable ground this time around, so pretty easy to negatively recruit against

not to mention the fact that the ncaa handing out it's punishment would almost likely effect the players if it's a post season penalty almost immediately

doesn't seem very stable, add to that the fact that this year with a couple top kids didn't really go as well
I feel you. Arizona will still land commitments for sure, but honestly they're gonna be nothing to celebrate until they make it on campus.
Post Reply