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7 months until practices start. Hopefully Zeke will be back!
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jajoyce wrote:7 months until practices start. Hopefully Zeke will be back!
He really needs to work on his jump shot to make it in the league as a stretch 4.
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Every Sr in college b-ball, on both the men’s and women’s side need to be able to come back. Expand the tourney next year to include this years qualifiers
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azcat49 wrote:Every Sr in college b-ball, on both the men’s and women’s side need to be able to come back. Expand the tourney next year to include this years qualifiers
Yes, a 96 team tournament. That would be the perfect.
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Well so many mid major teams might miss it because they lose players as well. Give them another year but also an suit invite regardless of record. For one year be flexible and have as many as needed to realize their dreams of participation
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Its hard to get excited for another year of complete roster turnover. I guess now is a good time for a mental break from this team.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Every Sr in college b-ball, on both the men’s and women’s side need to be able to come back. Expand the tourney next year to include this years qualifiers
Yes, a 96 team tournament. That would be the perfect.
ASSu would still be in the play-in game.
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Serious question: do all these converging bizarre circumstances make it more likely our freshmen stay?
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azgreg wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Every Sr in college b-ball, on both the men’s and women’s side need to be able to come back. Expand the tourney next year to include this years qualifiers
Yes, a 96 team tournament. That would be the perfect.
ASSu would still be in the play-in game.

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azgreg wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Every Sr in college b-ball, on both the men’s and women’s side need to be able to come back. Expand the tourney next year to include this years qualifiers
Yes, a 96 team tournament. That would be the perfect.
ASSu would still be in the play-in game.
Fucking perfect!!!
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Softball, baseball, beach, even if you let the seniors come back what do you do with the incoming recruits.?
Huge rosters?
JV squads?
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So, our roster is looking like this:
90% or more likely:
PG: Akinjo
Wing: Baker, Terry, Mathurin
Bigs: Brown, Lee, Koloko

Greater than 25% likelihood:
Bigs: Nnaji
Coach: Miller

Less than 25% liklihood:
PG: Williams, Nico
Wings: Green, Ziaire, Walton

That's a lot of openings. Any predictions on our final roster come next season? I would say at a minimum we need one more impactful wing as well as another big and wing (With Baker backing up the point) or PG to eat up minutes to even have a chance at the tournament.
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gronk4heisman wrote:So, our roster is looking like this:
90% or more likely:
PG: Akinjo
Wing: Baker, Terry, Mathurin
Bigs: Brown, Lee, Koloko

Greater than 25% likelihood:
Bigs: Nnaji
Coach: Miller

Less than 25% liklihood:
PG: Williams, Nico
Wings: Green, Ziaire, Walton

That's a lot of openings. Any predictions on our final roster come?
It's March 12. I'm focused on where we'll be slotted on Selection Sunday.
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I’m assuming everyone will be dead.
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Beachcat97 wrote:Serious question: do all these converging bizarre circumstances make it more likely our freshmen stay?
Very doubtful. Nnaji seems to be a remote possibility.
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Dosia wrote:Its hard to get excited for another year of complete roster turnover. I guess now is a good time for a mental break from this team.
Agreed. It really isn't very fun anymore, is it?
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Jordan Brown. How good is he gonna be for us?
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zonagrad wrote:Jordan Brown. How good is he gonna be for us?
My guess: better than Jeter, not as good as Nnaji.
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Beachcat97 wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Jordan Brown. How good is he gonna be for us?
My guess: better than Jeter, not as good as Nnaji.
Clear as mud.
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Musselman didn’t like him, at least as a freshman over seasoned Sr twins
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Returners
I. Lee- 6’8”- Big- Senior
J. Baker- 6’4”- Guard- RS Junior
**B. Williams- 6’2”- Guard- RS Sophomore
C. Koloko- 7’0”- Big- Sophomore
**N. Mannion- 6’3”- Guard- Sophomore
**J. Green- 6’6”- Wing- Sophomore
**Z. Nnaji- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore

Transfers
J. Brown- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore
J. Akinjo- 6’1”- Guard-Sophomore
(Spring unless granted Waiver for Fall)

Freshmen
D. Terry- 6’6”- Guard- Freshman
B. Mathurin- 6’6”- Wing- Freshman

Still Recruiting
Z. Williams- 6-7”- Wing- Freshman
K. Walton- 6’5”- Wing- Freshman

**Likely to leave early or not play

Did I miss anyone?
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IndianaZonaFan wrote:Returners
I. Lee- 6’8”- Big- Senior
J. Baker- 6’4”- Guard- RS Junior
**B. Williams- 6’2”- Guard- RS Sophomore
C. Koloko- 7’0”- Big- Sophomore
**N. Mannion- 6’3”- Guard- Sophomore
**J. Green- 6’6”- Wing- Sophomore
**Z. Nnaji- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore

Transfers
J. Brown- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore
J. Akinjo- 6’1”- Guard-Sophomore
(Spring unless granted Waiver for Fall)

Freshmen
D. Terry- 6’6”- Guard- Freshman
B. Mathurin- 6’6”- Wing- Freshman

Still Recruiting
Z. Williams- 6-7”- Wing- Freshman
K. Walton- 6’5”- Wing- Freshman

**Likely to leave early or not play

Did I miss anyone?
Is Williams likely not to play? That sounds a little presumptive. Is his situation 50/50? 60/40? Does anyone really know?
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I thought I saw a Miller quote recently that said Williams was looking good and he was optimistic
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zonagrad wrote:
IndianaZonaFan wrote:Returners
I. Lee- 6’8”- Big- Senior
J. Baker- 6’4”- Guard- RS Junior
**B. Williams- 6’2”- Guard- RS Sophomore
C. Koloko- 7’0”- Big- Sophomore
**N. Mannion- 6’3”- Guard- Sophomore
**J. Green- 6’6”- Wing- Sophomore
**Z. Nnaji- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore

Transfers
J. Brown- 6’11”- Big- Sophomore
J. Akinjo- 6’1”- Guard-Sophomore
(Spring unless granted Waiver for Fall)

Freshmen
D. Terry- 6’6”- Guard- Freshman
B. Mathurin- 6’6”- Wing- Freshman

Still Recruiting
Z. Williams- 6-7”- Wing- Freshman
K. Walton- 6’5”- Wing- Freshman

**Likely to leave early or not play

Did I miss anyone?
Is Williams likely not to play? That sounds a little presumptive. Is his situation 50/50? 60/40? Does anyone really know?
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Has anyone ever played sports at a high level after 2 OCD surgeries?

Ray Smith had a different congenital knee issue, but he and his family decided that he would rather walk without pain for decades that play basketball again. He did play a bit with the team when he was manager or whatever position he had in practice.
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Merkin wrote:Has anyone ever played sports at a high level after 2 OCD surgeries?

Ray Smith had a different congenital knee issue, but he and his family decided that he would rather walk without pain for decades that play basketball again. He did play a bit with the team when he was manager or whatever position he had in practice.
I feel like you can't actually compete at a high level even with the injuries you and I had, and that we never even noticed because we didn't have talent anyway.
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Merkin wrote:Has anyone ever played sports at a high level after 2 OCD surgeries?

Ray Smith had a different congenital knee issue, but he and his family decided that he would rather walk without pain for decades that play basketball again. He did play a bit with the team when he was manager or whatever position he had in practice.
Even if Williams is back, there's no way you can count on him for 30+ minutes a game.

Probably like 20 mins a game would be the realistic ceiling for him, and that's if he's able to play.
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If he can't come back (safely) all the way, he won't come back at all. Doesn't make any financial sense if he can't move to the next level and make $$$
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Merkin wrote:Has anyone ever played sports at a high level after 2 OCD surgeries?
Does foosball count?
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azgreg wrote:
Merkin wrote:Has anyone ever played sports at a high level after 2 OCD surgeries?
Does foosball count?
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Who wants more Dylan???

I'm guessing they have some more details to work through, but will grant relief to winter as well.
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I've never thought for a moment that Tres Tinkle was ever going to go away.
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Longhorned wrote:I've never thought for a moment that Tres Tinkle was ever going to go away.
I can’t wait to see an improved Dylan Smith
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prh wrote: Who wants more Dylan???

I'm guessing they have some more details to work through, but will grant relief to winter as well.
Please no. Please.
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More Dylan! More Chase! More Max! What more could you ask for?
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gronk4heisman wrote:More Dylan! More Chase! More Max! What more could you ask for?
More wins?
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Actually, weren't we looking at bringing in a couple of transfers for next season? I'd rather have Dylan and Gettings over a couple of transfers.
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and the hits just keep on coming
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So the people that wouldn’t want Dylan would rather have Baker? Baker may not turn the ball over but he rarely added anything of note.
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DrWildcat wrote:So the people that wouldn’t want Dylan would rather have Baker? Baker may not turn the ball over but he rarely added anything of note.
Depends if any freshmen come back, Brandon Williams’ health and the remainder of our recruiting class.
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5 years of Pritchard?
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Dave wrote:5 years of Pritchard?
Sure, if we get Nico, Josh and Zeke another year, plus Brandon Williams, Jordan Brown(no Jeter), and Zaire.
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Dave wrote:5 years of Pritchard?
That’ll be how this has to go, doesn’t it??

All our freshmen leave and Prichard stays.
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We would get hosed on the deal without a doubt.
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My prediction is one of the 3 freshman (besides Koloko) will be back.
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Anyone seen these Wichita St guys we are looking at?

Stevenson looks like the better player, but appears to have an entitlement mentality that may not clash well with Sean Miller.
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Maybe it will be telling to see which guard/wings jump on board or if it’s a tough spot to fill. Playing with Akinjo and his rep might be telling
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