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Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:42 am
by Merkin
Everything but Ballo in this thread!
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:54 am The only way to do that is to double team him which leaves someone open and exposes the defense for a much easier final shot. Not all coaches would do that.
"The only thing that prevent defense prevents in winning" - Bill Walton, probably from Lou Holtz.

When UA went on their late run, they pressured the ball from the second it was thrown in. Now let's change what we are doing and let Pope dribble the ball down court with no pressure until about the NBA 3 point range.

My preference would have been to double him in the backcourt, and get the ball out of his hands. Cats let the hottest player in the game keep the ball the last 11 seconds. Pressure the ball right away, and the Beavs have to take longer to get the ball downcourt and have someone else shoot.

Good defense by Lewis, no problem there, and an outstanding shot by Pope. Maybe 90% of the time that shot does not go in and you go to overtime.

"Playing not to lose (something)" - Bill Walton

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:58 pm
by Fishclamps
I would have honestly just fouled him on the inbounds, let him shoot his FTs, then let one of our guys have a crack at last shot

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:42 pm
by Postmaster
Fishclamps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:58 pm I would have honestly just fouled him on the inbounds, let him shoot his FTs, then let one of our guys have a crack at last shot
That’s a tough call in a tie game.

I would have put someone on my inbounds, then done something to force Pope (or whomever) to at least have to move sideways or at least at an angle. Make him uncomfortable dribbling and make him worry about the clock. I don’t mean trying to steal ball just closer than Lewis played.
It was a great shot but I would have liked someone else have taken it.

Agree that it shou never have been that close.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:24 pm
by Fishclamps
Oh for sure, I just kinda figured they'd hit some stupid shot to win, so if you forced them into only getting 2 points we'd at least have the ball back with a chance to win or tie

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:01 pm
by AZCatGirl
Not sure if Ballo can keep his double double streak up in LA next week, but 9 in a row is fucking insane.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:06 pm
by Merkin
Probably 50 years before we see it again.

What makes it even more impressive he is not really that quick or athletic, compared to other UA centers.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:11 pm
by Chicat
Merkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:06 pm Probably 50 years before we see it again.
Next year I bet Krivas comes close.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:13 pm
by EastCoastCat
Merkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:06 pm Probably 50 years before we see it again.

What makes it even more impressive he is not really that quick or athletic, compared to other UA centers.
But what he is is strong and powerful as shit. and his hands are pretty impressive for a man that size.

He’s a beast down low and almost impossible to push around. When he gets the ball on lobs and slip passes it’s easy buckets for us.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:23 pm
by Merkin
He can also get high when he wants to, as that goaltend call v. ASU when the ball wasn't even close to the rim.

Reminds me of Sean Rooks, but even as a senior Rooks only averaged 6.9 boards a game. But still ended up with a very long NBA career, although the game has changed since then.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:05 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:01 pm Not sure if Ballo can keep his double double streak up in LA next week, but 9 in a row is fucking insane.
Bet he gets one at USC!

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:54 am
by AZCatGirl

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:01 am
by pc in NM
AZCatGirl wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:54 am
I think Oumar has improved the most of any player on the team during this season. Looks like he's lost some weight, which I had been concerned about during the exhibition games pre-season. He's been a terror on the boards!

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:09 am
by TheCat
This kid has done more than I ever expected and I just hope the rest of his life he finds joy and success. He has been a great ambassador for the university and is always well spoken. He has made the most of his abilities and not many players or people can make that claim. I respect and admire him.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:31 am
by gouacats
He's definitely been the most consistent player on the team this year, especially the 2nd half.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:00 pm
by 84Cat

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
He needs a couple more this year I think!

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:06 am
by azcat49
Just amazed how there is no room in the league for guys like him. Now unless a 5 can put it on the deck and drive as well as stretch the floor from three and guard the switch, they don’t want you.

Love to have him back for our first year in the Big 12

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:35 am
by CalStateTempe
I want him to feast tonight….

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:44 am
by pc in NM
CalStateTempe wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:35 am I want him to feast tonight….
... Krivas, too!!

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:47 am
by Fishclamps

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:49 am
by Beachcat97
Woah. Transferring?? Didn't see this coming.

Where is he going to have a better opportunity than starting at AZ?

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:51 am
by Fishclamps

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:52 am
by Fishclamps
He will have 0 problems finding any number of big programs to start at, not worried in the slightest about that.

I'm guessing this is a keeping Krivas thing, unfortunately for Ballo

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:54 am
by Beachcat97
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:52 am He will have 0 problems finding any number of big programs to start at, not worried in the slightest about that.

I'm guessing this is a keeping Krivas thing, unfortunately for Ballo
Why is Krivas a better option at the 5 than Ballo next season?

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:58 am
by Fishclamps
Because he was only a freshman this year and Tommy thinks he's gonna develop into something great.

You already know Ballo is good but he's only got 1 year left and if he stayed Krivas is gonna bounce to some other school who would have him start.

This sounds pretty mutual, Ballo gets another year and hopefully a good NIL deal, and we get a couple more years with Krivas assuming he actually will become something great.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:03 am
by 84Cat
Could also lose Anderson too. I think Ballo thinks he can make more playing college than going the Euro route. We are seeing this more & more

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:09 am
by Beachcat97
I like Krivas, but he's not as ferocious as Ballo. I'm also not sure if Krivas is an upgrade on defense.

But I'll trust Tommy on this one. Ballo and Tommy have a long-standing relationship going back to before they were at Gonzaga together. I thought Ballo would want to finish with the guy who helped him get started.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:10 am
by Chicat
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:54 am
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:52 am He will have 0 problems finding any number of big programs to start at, not worried in the slightest about that.

I'm guessing this is a keeping Krivas thing, unfortunately for Ballo
Why is Krivas a better option at the 5 than Ballo next season?
Lateral quickness on defense immediately comes to mind along with the ability to guard smaller 5s on the perimeter.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:10 am
by Fishclamps
84Cat wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:03 am Could also lose Anderson too. I think Ballo thinks he can make more playing college than going the Euro route. We are seeing this more & more
Oh this is absolutely about keeping multiple bigs instead of 1 and then having to hunt down a couple backups in the portal.

And yeah he's gonna have to play overseas at some point but if you can squeeze 1 more year of big NIL from a program looking for an incredibly reliable center, you do it.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:12 am
by Beachcat97
Chicat wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:10 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:54 am
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:52 am He will have 0 problems finding any number of big programs to start at, not worried in the slightest about that.

I'm guessing this is a keeping Krivas thing, unfortunately for Ballo
Why is Krivas a better option at the 5 than Ballo next season?
Lateral quickness on defense immediately comes to mind along with the ability to guard smaller 5s on the perimeter.
Okay, I'll buy that. I'm also not sure how many minutes we're gonna see from Stephen. Maybe Tommy think he can play right away.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:24 am
by SunnyAZ
Krivas will obviously have to get better but I think he is more talented than Ballo. Better feel for the game and bigger.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:26 am
by LuteIsGod
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:51 am
Does the new NIL environment allow you to plan and allow a player to mature? I don't think it does.

I'd rather have Ballo back. Is this a coaching decision or is his NIL pay going to be higher elsewhere?

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:28 am
by Fishclamps
It's both.

Arizona would love to pay the NIL he's gonna command, but then we can't afford other people.

This really seems like a decision that will benefit all parties

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:28 am
by SCCats
That hurts a bit :(

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:29 am
by IndianaZonaFan
SunnyAZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:24 am Krivas will obviously have to get better but I think he is more talented than Ballo. Better feel for the game and bigger.
He. Can’t. Jump.

How are you 7’2” and have such soft layups and very little dunks? Kriisa ain’t hammering those thundering dunks off of oops from pick and rolls situations.

I’ll miss that. We’ve had Ballo and Koloko able to finish those for 3 years. We don’t have that from our starting center anymore.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:30 am
by Fishclamps
Krivas was also a freshman who's gonna need some development, this isn't a secret. Gotta trust in this staff to get him where he needs to be

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:33 am
by RawleArenas
Respectfully disagree. Stephen is more athletic than both Koloko and Ballo. Going half speed this guy is explosive. We just don't know if he's ready yet, although I do anticipate some KJ Lewis type minutes his freshman year. He's a bona fide pro for sure. I'm not sold on Veesaar, and am curious how much Dylan Anderson has developed. If he's anywhere close to what Klingan gives to UCONN, there we're in good shape.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:34 am
by LuteIsGod
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:29 am
SunnyAZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:24 am Krivas will obviously have to get better but I think he is more talented than Ballo. Better feel for the game and bigger.
He. Can’t. Jump.

How are you 7’2” and have such soft layups and very little dunks? Kriisa ain’t hammering those thundering dunks off of oops from pick and rolls situations.

I’ll miss that. We’ve had Ballo and Koloko able to finish those for 3 years. We don’t have that from our starting center anymore.
Woah...you don't like a 7'2" player who plays like he thinks he's 5'8"?

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:36 am
by Fishclamps
Stephen is gonna be way more raw as a freshman than Lewis was

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:39 am
by LuteIsGod
I really wanted Ballo back for his experience.

I'd offer him anytime access to Grandy's, Lucky Star Buffet, Two Pesos and Sanchez Burrito Co, if he stays.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:44 am
by Postmaster
How does NIL work with foreigners?

What are chances he goes back to Spokane?

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:48 am
by Postmaster
Dang, I miss Lucky Star!

First place we went out to eat after daughter was born.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:50 am
by Alieberman
I wish him all the success in the world. He deserves it

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:50 am
by Fishclamps
Postmaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:44 am How does NIL work with foreigners?

What are chances he goes back to Spokane?
I saw someone speculate that it's probably money that goes back home that they then collect whenever they go back home. That way it bypasses the visa restriction and NIL doesn't really have rules anyways lol.

The school that gets him is gonna allegedly need to be able to pony up 750k for him.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:55 am
by dmjcat
Postmaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:44 am How does NIL work with foreigners?

What are chances he goes back to Spokane?
Foreigners can still participate in NIL..........it just has to be structured properly

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Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:58 am
by LuteIsGod
Postmaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:48 am Dang, I miss Lucky Star!

First place we went out to eat after daughter was born.
My friend and I watched them pour water into the bottles of alcohol, but their food was delicious....

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:17 pm
by OriginalAZ
I wish he would stay but I wish him the best. He is a class act.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:23 pm
by Merkin
I imagine Oumar is NIL shopping, same with Boswell. UA collectives can't afford all the players. Need to find a Tyson style donor like Arkansas has.

Krivas was quite developed as a freshman, good footwork, and I don't think Stephen will be.

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:27 pm
by dmjcat
LuteIsGod wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:39 am I really wanted Ballo back for his experience.

I'd offer him anytime access to Grandy's, Lucky Star Buffet, Two Pesos and Sanchez Burrito Co, if he stays.
Throw in the Tack Room and its a deal :lol:

Re: Oumar Ballo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:30 pm
by dmjcat
LuteIsGod wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:58 am
Postmaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:48 am Dang, I miss Lucky Star!

First place we went out to eat after daughter was born.
My friend and I watched them pour water into the bottles of alcohol, but their food was delicious....
Had the dinner buffet many times back in the late 80's