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Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:51 am**

Supposedly Les Miles reached out

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:53 am**

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:53 am**

What about a young gun trying to prove he's not a retread?

Main Event wrote:Supposedly Les Miles reached out

I like him a lot but just don't feel good about the offensive side of the ball.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:54 am**

I wouldn't mind it, but again pending OC.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:54 am**

Main Event wrote:Supposedly Les Miles reached out

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:58 am**

Main Event wrote:Supposedly Les Miles reached out

I like Miles as a person, but there's a reason he hasn't had any buzz for an opening and may have reached out to us.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:58 am**

azgreg wrote:
Main Event wrote:Supposedly Les Miles reached out

If we are going the re tread route, might as well go with the most proven re tread in history.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:58 am**

Good grief no Les Miles please

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:59 am**

Tedy Bruschi

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:59 am**

If he gets someone really good to be OC and lets him do that job, then I'd be pretty pleased with Miles (

@Chi). This assumes that potential OC can handle clock management for Miles as well.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:03 pm**

prh wrote:If he gets someone really good to be OC and lets him do that job, then I'd be pretty pleased with Miles ( @Chi). This assumes that potential OC can handle clock management for Miles as well.

One of the reason LSU fans were super mad at him is that he reportedly messed with the offense to go run heavy and wouldn't let his OC's run an open playbook.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:04 pm**

If Les is the guy he needs an offensive genius to go along with him

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:04 pm**

AZarchery wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Cool. So its either pimp canes and 5 star transfers every year or the guy who couldn’t win at USC.

Lane was under significant scholarship sanctions at USC inherited from Pete Carroll, correct?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:05 pm**

I will be really disappointed if we end up hiring someone who is readily available due to the fact that he just got fired from his previous job for not winning enough.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:10 pm**

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
prh wrote:If he gets someone really good to be OC and lets him do that job, then I'd be pretty pleased with Miles ( @Chi). This assumes that potential OC can handle clock management for Miles as well.
One of the reason LSU fans were super mad at him is that he reportedly messed with the offense to go run heavy and wouldn't let his OC's run an open playbook.

Yep and hopefully he's learned from it. RR never learned from his shortcomings, but Miles is at least less arrogant than RR. Hope hope hope that's all we got.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:11 pm**

Les was 10-3 10-3 8-5 and 9-3 before getting fired. In the SEC West. I think we would all happily accept those records. Now make him give an OC total control and boom. Might have something.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:14 pm**

Was miles the coach when tuitama had his brain scrambled?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:15 pm**

BBQ wildcat wrote:I will be really disappointed if we end up hiring someone who is readily available due to the fact that he just got fired from his previous job for not winning enough.

Played in the SEC and his worst seasons were 8 wins...twice. Those were his worst seasons....in the SEC...how did he not win enough?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:16 pm**

Postmaster wrote:Was miles the coach when tuitama had his brain scrambled?

Yes

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:16 pm**

Postmaster wrote:Was miles the coach when tuitama had his brain scrambled?

I don't think so lol

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:17 pm**

most old coaches are not going to change how they do things. they are a stubborn lot. if les didn't give any freedom to an OC before why would he now?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:17 pm**

AZarchery wrote:
BBQ wildcat wrote:I will be really disappointed if we end up hiring someone who is readily available due to the fact that he just got fired from his previous job for not winning enough.
Played in the SEC and his worst seasons were 8 wins...twice. Those were his worst seasons....in the SEC...how did he not win enough?

Because he won a title early in his tenure and they weren't getting back to it. Just like how aTm has Texas type expectations, LSU thinks it should be competing with Bama every year.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:18 pm**

scumdevils86 wrote:most old coaches are not going to change how they do things. they are a stubborn lot. if les didn't give any freedom to an OC before why would he now?

Wanting a job that no one wants to give you is a pretty good instrument of change for most people. The 3 million dollar question is whether it's enough for him.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:20 pm**

prh wrote:
AZarchery wrote:
BBQ wildcat wrote:I will be really disappointed if we end up hiring someone who is readily available due to the fact that he just got fired from his previous job for not winning enough.
Played in the SEC and his worst seasons were 8 wins...twice. Those were his worst seasons....in the SEC...how did he not win enough?
Because he won a title early in his tenure and they weren't getting back to it. Just like how aTm has Texas type expectations, LSU thinks it should be competing with Bama every year.

That’s fine for LSU, but we aren’t remotely close to them. I’d prefer a young gun but if we go the re tread route why not take the proven winner?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:21 pm**

AZarchery wrote:
BBQ wildcat wrote:I will be really disappointed if we end up hiring someone who is readily available due to the fact that he just got fired from his previous job for not winning enough.
Played in the SEC and his worst seasons were 8 wins...twice. Those were his worst seasons....in the SEC...how did he not win enough?

Not talking about Miles specifically, but some of the other names being thrown around are SMH dumb. But do we really want another control freak here?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:23 pm**

For a re-tread, Miles has a pretty good record.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:28 pm**

If Miles wants to come to Az we should jump on it and not even think twice. Track record and the guy can recruit. exactly what we need.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:29 pm**

A name I haven't heard mentioned is Clancy Pendergast. Thoughts?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:30 pm**

TuiTouchdown wrote:A name I haven't heard mentioned is Clancy Pendergast. Thoughts?

I think most of us are meh about him. Was discussed a few days ago but long buried by now.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:31 pm**

EastCoastCat wrote:If Miles wants to come to Az we should jump on it and not even think twice. Track record and the guy can recruit. exactly what we need.

I wonder if we could sell recruits on having the only coach in the conference who has won a national championship?

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:34 pm**

TuiTouchdown wrote:A name I haven't heard mentioned is Clancy Pendergast. Thoughts?

Talked about him a bit, if went the alumni angle, I'd think he should be on the top of the list. Could have Chuck/Salvea run his Defense. Don't see it though.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:35 pm**

jimson wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:If Miles wants to come to Az we should jump on it and not even think twice. Track record and the guy can recruit. exactly what we need.
I wonder if we could sell recruits on having the only coach in the conference who has won a national championship?

I think his biggest sell is getting guys into the NFL. This article is from prior to 2015 draft, but the numbers at that point already are great. http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/ ... suall.html" target="_blank

Here's some other numbers (all from my research) about Miles' 60 draftees before this past week's NFL Draft:

37 were on NFL rosters last season

45 have started at least one game

22 finished last season as starters

7 have been Pro Bowlers

4 have been selected All-Pro

10 have played in Super Bowls

8 have won in Super Bowls

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:37 pm**

Postmaster wrote:Was miles the coach when tuitama had his brain scrambled?

Correction, he WAS the reason Tuitama had his brain scrambled. All my OU family all claim it was revenge for some OU/OSU spat Stoops and Les had.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:41 pm**

Khalil lobbying for Yates. Yikes.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:44 pm**

I'd be fine with Miles only if he loosens up and hires some young gun offensive genius that's under 40 as OC

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:46 pm**

ASUHATER! wrote:I'd be fine with Miles only if he loosens up and hires some young gun offensive genius that's under 40 as OC

Agree, I am quite against older retreads, but that would win the presser. Just make him a Joe Pa, let the younger hotter coaches run the team.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:47 pm**

Interesting twist. Tired of hearing the players push for Yates. Yates sounds good because he improved recruiting from a 2 under RR/Casteel to a 4. Bringing in a completely new staff with good recruiters should take it to 7. What's the enemy of great? Good. And the defense hasn't even been that lately, despite being so hyped up. Players want status quo because good recruiting might recruit right over them.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:49 pm**

UA still has a bottom 20 defense, so not sure what they hype is about Yates. Usually head coaches were pretty good as OCs or DCs

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:49 pm**

Miles can be stiff as a board if he can bring in anywhere close the athletes he recruited at LSU. I will take 9 or 10 victories a year, even if the scores are 17-13, and be quite satisfied thank you.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:50 pm**

I'm fine with Les, if like everyone said, he brings in young coordinators. Let's not forget he's in his 60s.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:53 pm**

I think Yates has proved himself elsewhere, as his defenses generally have done extremely well, as supported by below article. Understanding the defense and talent he was handed and the undersized dline, the difficulty in defending when opposite of a RR offense being on the field generally for sometimes 2/3 to 3/4 of the game, can't be easy.
Do think his history of recruiting has been pretty solid and he certainly appears to get along Great with the players.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-footb ... uez-011716" target="_blank

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:54 pm**

azgreg wrote:
Main Event wrote:Supposedly Les Miles reached out

I would love this, especially if we gave him the cash for a top OC

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:58 pm**

While this might not be something everyone would agree with, I think that if there's any substance to the allegations sent to the AG, then this is a situation where you just straight up clean house. Pay buyouts, do what you need, and recognize that you're going to have a couple of bumpy seasons, but hire someone and let them bring in an all new staff. This isn't something you want associated with the program at all.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:01 pm**

EastCoastCat wrote:If Miles wants to come to Az we should jump on it and not even think twice. Track record and the guy can recruit. exactly what we need.

Exactly.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:03 pm**

prh wrote:
Interesting twist. Tired of hearing the players push for Yates. Yates sounds good because he improved recruiting from a 2 under RR/Casteel to a 4. Bringing in a completely new staff with good recruiters should take it to 7. What's the enemy of great? Good. And the defense hasn't even been that lately, despite being so hyped up. Players want status quo because good recruiting might recruit right over them.

Yup. This is an opportunity to clean house so clean house. Les, Young OC, who ever wants to stay can stay and let’s all
Move on.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:04 pm**

I don't care for the retread route, but there is a vast difference in the level of success Miles got fired for at LSU vs Rodriquez at Michigan.

Like East Coast said, if he wants to coach here and it can be worked out, this is the hire you have to make.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:05 pm**

Just saw your post azpenguin and I agree. We had the same thought at the same time.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:05 pm**

Anybody could recruit to LSU. You can fall out of bed and run into a 5 star recruit. Rich Rod could recruit to Michigan for the very same reason. I doubt Les Miles, who has zero connections to the west a la Rich Rod could recruit half as well to Arizona nor do I think he's young enough to do so.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:06 pm**

CalStateTempe wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:If Miles wants to come to Az we should jump on it and not even think twice. Track record and the guy can recruit. exactly what we need.
Exactly.

he's had many questionable 4th qtr calls at the end of games. Not sold on Les

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:07 pm**

Great name for CEO/glad handler with big dollars set aside for the two assistant positions might be Bruschi if he was interested.

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