Bear Down Wildcats

Thank you sweet baby Jesus

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:09 pm Any ideas when we'd make our official decision?

My guess is sometime next week. Don’t hold me to that though.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:03 pm Thank you sweet baby Jesus

Good. Nothing against Sark and good on him for getting his life together, but I'm done with retreads for right now.

I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Gus Duggerton

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Shay Binion

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

God works in mysterious ways, so my money is on God.

With the state of our roster, I think he could get us to .500 in year 1.

Former Star basketball writer Jon Wilner wrote a column, which was mostly an opportunity for him to say what a bad football job this is. Then, he concluded that UArizona just HAS to "keep it in the family" and hire Brennan or Salave'a. (Not much of a news flash there, but at least he isn't claiming any non-existent sources with secret information.) However, I do feel a little like Rhett Butler in GWTW smirking and bowing at the waist to Charles Hamilton and "apologizing again for all my shortcomings." Arizona has had more winning records than losing records in the Pac. The worst of it was when Tomey was fired after a down slope of his perpetual sine wave, followed by the horrific hire of Mackovic, followed by Stoops digging out from Mackovic's recruiting, player revolt/exodus and APR issues. That was a nine year stretch from 1999 through 2007 that otherwise doesn't reflect how Arizona has fared over 42 years. I agree that you need somebody with the personality of a grinder. But, while someone "in the family" is aware of what's required here, if otherwise isn't a requirement. Mackovic was "in the family", and look how that turned out. And for those of us born before 1987, "the family" doesn't exclusively consist of Tomey's coaching tree.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:52 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Shay Binion

LOL

In re UofA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:58 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:52 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Shay Binion

LOL

In hindsight, NCSU should have hired Shay Binion. He was a nice guy with a can do attitude, and he probably wouldn't have gotten them sanctioned over Dennis Smith Jr. in a sub .500 year.

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:09 pm

300 players... it probably won't be too tough to get a couple of us on with the password

It'll be so funny if the worst thing ASU ever did, was win 70-7 and unite generations of Arizona football

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Charlie Brown’s favorite baseball player? No wait, that was Joe. Must have been Harvey’s cousin.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:09 pm

If we hadn’t shit the bed against ASU to the tune of 70-7, would even 50 of these guys care enough to get involved with the direction of the program?

Embarrassment is a powerful motivator.

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:34 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Charlie Brown’s favorite baseball player? No wait, that was Joe. Must have been Harvey’s cousin.

Ha! So thats where the name came from! I just knew it as a name people might put as a return addressee when sending questionable things in the mail.

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Special teams coach coach for the New Jersey Bobcats?

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:09 pm

Hopefully this turns into collaboration, not a bunch of people trying to tell Heeke what to do. Primarily because Heeke seems like the type of guy who would be easy to bully like that.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:09 pm

Is by chance one of those 300 former players Antonio Pierce?

How can any zoom meeting get anything done with 300 attendees? Who is the moderator?

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:08 pm How can any zoom meeting get anything done with 300 attendees? Who is the moderator?

I thought you were.

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Special teams coach coach for the New Jersey Bobcats?

No. That was Heywood Jablome.

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:29 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Special teams coach coach for the New Jersey Bobcats?

No. That was Heywood Jablome.

I thought he was the strength and conditioning coach for the Lone Star State Unbeatables.

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Pete Schweddy

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:08 pm How can any zoom meeting get anything done with 300 attendees? Who is the moderator?

I was once on a teleconference with about a dozen people. Unbearable.

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:14 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:08 pm How can any zoom meeting get anything done with 300 attendees? Who is the moderator?

I thought you were.

Zoom is one of the top reasons I retired this year! Man I hated it.

Much less trying to control 300 athletes all trying to speak at once.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:48 pm Hopefully this turns into collaboration, not a bunch of people trying to tell Heeke what to do. Primarily because Heeke seems like the type of guy who would be easy to bully like that.

This is what I worry about too.

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Joe Bagadonuts

catgrad97 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:25 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Joe Bagadonuts

Nicky PotatoSalad

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:51 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:29 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:12 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm I gotta know who this secret candidate is god damn it!

Harvey Schlabotnick.

Special teams coach coach for the New Jersey Bobcats?

No. That was Heywood Jablome.

I thought he was the strength and conditioning coach for the Lone Star State Unbeatables.

No, those were the East Westchester Northstars. Champions of the Southern Conference.

Scheer posted that one candidate has been confirmed for an interview. Any idea who?

Frybry02 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:10 pm Scheer posted that one candidate has been confirmed for an interview. Any idea who?

The one you've heard about the most.

Lando05 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:23 pm

Frybry02 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:10 pm Scheer posted that one candidate has been confirmed for an interview. Any idea who?

The one you've heard about the most.

So Big B

At this point it looks like Brennan or Niumatalolo and it probably doesn’t go further than there.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:33 pm At this point it looks like Brennan or Niumatalolo and it probably doesn’t go further than there.

well

ok then

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:32 pm

Well so far they have a truly dreadful record then

Waste of money.

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:47 pmWaste of money.

Waste of Money? Then i guess they dont know how to conduct a coaching search on their own if they need outside help to search for the best possible candidate.

But then again it a waste.

Does the search firm just do a background check or does it uncover the "hidden candidate"? Really, how many contenders are there for Arizona's head football coach and shouldn't this be our AD's job to have a list and choose one? What does the search firm do that he can't?

In re UofA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm Does the search firm just do a background check or does it uncover the "hidden candidate"? Really, how many contenders are there for Arizona's head football coach and shouldn't this be our AD's job to have a list and choose one? What does the search firm do that he can't?

Probably Money?

If it’s Brennan or Ken N, I’d rather it be Ken. That way I can either be vindicated, or eat so much crow I’m ecstatic.

The AZ Desert Swarm article about Heeke tonight doesn’t sit well with me at all. Already pulled my donations this year. Glad I did for now while he’s here.

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:03 pm First step before any announcement is that the job posting needs to be listed.

In re UofA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm Does the search firm just do a background check or does it uncover the "hidden candidate"? Really, how many contenders are there for Arizona's head football coach and shouldn't this be our AD's job to have a list and choose one? What does the search firm do that he can't?

I’m sure they do both, but then what the fuck are we paying Heeke and his staff for?

In reality, this is to provide Heeke and Robbins cover. If the guy that gets hired ends up being a piece of shit or a total failure or both, they can say “Don’t blame me. We even went so far as to hire a search firm to turn over every rock.”

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:21 am

In re UofA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm Does the search firm just do a background check or does it uncover the "hidden candidate"? Really, how many contenders are there for Arizona's head football coach and shouldn't this be our AD's job to have a list and choose one? What does the search firm do that he can't?

I’m sure they do both, but then what the fuck are we paying Heeke and his staff for?

In reality, this is to provide Heeke and Robbins cover. If the guy that gets hired ends up being a piece of shit or a total failure or both, they can say “Don’t blame me. We even went so far as to hire a search firm to turn over every rock.”

Good chance that once this hire is made, Heeke will be dismissed soon after. At least that is my hope.

MountainCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:28 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:21 am

In re UofA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm Does the search firm just do a background check or does it uncover the "hidden candidate"? Really, how many contenders are there for Arizona's head football coach and shouldn't this be our AD's job to have a list and choose one? What does the search firm do that he can't?

I’m sure they do both, but then what the fuck are we paying Heeke and his staff for?

In reality, this is to provide Heeke and Robbins cover. If the guy that gets hired ends up being a piece of shit or a total failure or both, they can say “Don’t blame me. We even went so far as to hire a search firm to turn over every rock.”

Good chance that once this hire is made, Heeke will be dismissed soon after. At least that is my hope.

I actually hope not, unless the new coach is made aware of that plan and it’s a “soft transition” (ie - Heeke is moved to a position of less authority with the idea he looks for a new job). I’d also want Miller and the new football coach to have some say in the process so that the new AD isn’t coming in looking to replace one or both of them with his people.

If we can’t do that, might as well keep Heeke. Yeah, he’s a waste of space, but he’s not going to rock the boat.