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Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:36 pm
by Chicat
AzCatFan2 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:47 pm It's five games in and I'm still trying to figure out Fisch's offensive philosophy.
In the NFL you have players with the mental and physical ability to change the fundamentals of what you do week-to-week to counteract what the defense throws at you on Sunday.

In college, it’s way more about having the talent and physical ability to impose your will on the opponent no matter what they play against you.

If Jedd Lasso thinks he can switch up his offense every week to take advantage of the perceived weaknesses of his opponents’ defenses, he obviously doesn’t know his own personnel or the college game well at all.

Establish your identity. Then be that team until you start kicking everyone’s ass.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:08 pm
by scumdevils86
It's probably good that I showed up for the game and then consequently can't remember almost any of it. I went a little overboard at the tailgate and I was convinced to buy a ticket at 630 pm...

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:09 pm
by Jefe
Watching the highlights the next morning because you can't remember any of the game is the best part of this season.

I do remember my scooter dying a mile from home and jogging it out.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:14 pm
by Robert A Booey
As if this season wasn't painful enough, now we lose our QB. Good lord.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:03 pm
by TheCat
I think we have two chances to end the streak this year. One is this week and we shall see. I would have been more confident if our QB was not injured. Bear Down.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:32 pm
by Postmaster
Are we using two kickers now?

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:39 pm
by azgreg
Postmaster wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:32 pm Are we using two kickers now?
Yes.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:08 pm
by CatsbyAZ
I haven't seen a team this hopeless since the Paul Wulff years at Washington State. And even they won games here and there. The Washington Huskies 0-12 team in 2008 kinda felt like a long time coming and at least that came at the end of a coaching tenure. Not the beginning.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:17 pm
by Longhorned
Look at the bright side. At least we don't have to win any games.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:24 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:25 pm
by Alieberman
Speaking of bright side... it may have a taken a couple of injuries but now there is no doubt who our starting QB is now!

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:32 pm
by Longhorned
Alieberman wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:25 pm Speaking of bright side... it may have a taken a couple of injuries but now there is no doubt who our starting QB is now!
That's right! No more controversy!

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:47 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Well UConn won and UNLV is up so we are still in our own little survival pool.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:34 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Longhorned wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:32 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:25 pm Speaking of bright side... it may have a taken a couple of injuries but now there is no doubt who our starting QB is now!
That's right! No more controversy!
See? Stoicism is the way.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm
by azgreg
I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm
by UAEebs86
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.

I think McCloud was that guy and it took Fisch 4 games to figure it out. That's on him.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:30 pm
by azgreg
UAEebs86 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.

I think McCloud was that guy and it took Fisch 4 games to figure it out. That's on him.
You have a valid point that this staff might have a problem identifying talent on this team. The Markoff/John combo was very good and I think this was the first game we saw it.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:34 pm
by Merkin
UAEebs86 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.

I think McCloud was that guy and it took Fisch 4 games to figure it out. That's on him.
McCloud would not have lost to NAU, that I am convinced.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:47 pm
by pc in NM
Wow!!! the season premiere of HBO’s “Succession” referenced the U of A’s football program!!!!
“This is the whole Baskin Robbins Thirty-one flavors of fuck right there.”

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:49 am
by AV8RCAT
If only we had listened to chief and kept Kevin Doyle

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:11 am
by Sid
AV8RCAT wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:49 am If only we had listened to chief and kept Kevin Doyle
Had he not listened to the chef he would now be our starting QB.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:41 am
by DrWildcat
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.
Maybe we have different thoughts on what is considered mediocre but I would still consider a team that wins 2-3 games as terrible. Maybe those wins would at least provide some hope though.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:52 am
by ChooChooCat
Sid wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:11 am
AV8RCAT wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:49 am If only we had listened to chief and kept Kevin Doyle
Had he not listened to the chef he would now be our starting QB.
He couldn't even make it at William & Mary University guys.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:09 am
by EastCoastCat
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:52 am
Sid wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:11 am
AV8RCAT wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:49 am If only we had listened to chief and kept Kevin Doyle
Had he not listened to the chef he would now be our starting QB.
He couldn't even make it at William & Mary University guys.
I heard he made the William team, it was the Mary part he screwed up...

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:38 am
by AV8RCAT
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:52 am
Sid wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:11 am
AV8RCAT wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:49 am If only we had listened to chief and kept Kevin Doyle
Had he not listened to the chef he would now be our starting QB.
He couldn't even make it at William & Mary University guys.
That doesn't mean he couldn't make it here lol

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:40 am
by Merkin
EastCoastCat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:09 am I heard he made the William team, it was the Mary part he screwed up...

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Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:19 am
by azgreg
DrWildcat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:41 am
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.
Maybe we have different thoughts on what is considered mediocre but I would still consider a team that wins 2-3 games as terrible. Maybe those wins would at least provide some hope though.
The defense is 100 yards a game and 1 yard per carry better than the previous 2 years. With McCloud we showed we could move the ball pretty well. I just think we're in a bit better shape than most people think. With McCloud coming back and Fifita coming in we should be OK at QB. Hopefully we land another recruit by then. There are coaching issues that need to be cleaned up for sure. Special teams need work. I think Fisch's play calling has gone down hill.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:23 am
by 84Cat
When does McCloud return?

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:24 am
by azgreg
84Cat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:23 am When does McCloud return?
Next year. I think he's only a sophomore.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 am
by 84Cat
Damn, I guess I missed that he is out for the season. Shows how invested I am to this team

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:27 am
by azgreg
84Cat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 am Damn, I guess I missed that he is out for the season. Shows how invested I am to this team
Cruz might make it back.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:28 am
by gronk4heisman
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:30 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm
azgreg wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:22 pm I still think we're a serviceable QB away from being a perfectly mediocre football team which was the goal for most Arizona fans this season.

I think McCloud was that guy and it took Fisch 4 games to figure it out. That's on him.
You have a valid point that this staff might have a problem identifying talent on this team. The Markoff/John combo was very good and I think this was the first game we saw it.
And that combo was only really used on one drive (granted I turned it off after 21 points in 5 minutes) and was not used when it made the most sense on the one yard line. That is why I have little hope that no matter what personnel we have we will always underperform as long as Fisch is making calls. Just listening to him talk about football you can tell he has no idea about strategy, a guy who has no idea about the topic he is speaking will generally use specifics to try and fool the audience into thinking he has a clue which he does all the time ("we ran it on 3rd and 5 at the 35 yard line", "We called a pass with 2:35 left in the quarter").

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:21 pm
by 84Cat

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:27 pm
by azgreg
Winger over at TOS said he has zero faith in this staff.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:41 pm
by gronk4heisman
Anyone who has watched this offense and play calling should have zero faith. When you hire an "offensive" coach who does not know how to run an offense thats a bad combo. Look back to his last stops as a coach with a say in the teams offense and it is a giant list of failures that somehow got him where he is now.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:54 pm
by Jefe
We didn't find any QBs at the tryout?

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:58 pm
by Merkin
Fisch said the only one they considered was a kicker, but eventually no one made the team.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:30 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Merkin wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:40 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:09 am I heard he made the William team, it was the Mary part he screwed up...

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William and Mary might smoke us if we played this weekend.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:39 pm
by DrWildcat
azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:27 pm Winger over at TOS said he has zero faith in this staff.
Is Winger really connected or something? I'm not sure how to take this.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:51 pm
by Postmaster
Im a little surprised guys like Carroll and Brown would come here if they didn’t think A Man Named Jedd knew what he was doing.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:53 pm
by UAEebs86
DrWildcat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:39 pm
azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:27 pm Winger over at TOS said he has zero faith in this staff.
Is Winger really connected or something? I'm not sure how to take this.

He used to be but now he’s just another poster who would rather hangout on Scheer’s site than here. Doesn’t seem like his insider is still around the athletic department.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:10 pm
by Postmaster
I hope that isn’t Premium.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:11 pm
by Postmaster
WSU just fired most of their staff. Do we play them this year?

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:17 pm
by scumdevils86
Yep. In Pullman, right before ASU.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:50 pm
by Robert A Booey
Do we have a vaccine mandate? Can we trade Fisch for Rolovich?

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:03 pm
by ramcat
scumdevils86 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:17 pm Yep. In Pullman, right before ASU.
Actually Cats play Wash St Nov 19th, ASU plays them Oct 30th.

Don't think it'll matter about coaches being let go due to Vaccine mandates, Cougs by 14+ easy.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:09 pm
by scumdevils86
ramcat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:03 pm
scumdevils86 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:17 pm Yep. In Pullman, right before ASU.
Actually Cats play Wash St Nov 19th, ASU plays them Oct 30th.

Don't think it'll matter about coaches being let go due to Vaccine mandates, Cougs by 14+ easy.
I meant we play wazzu the week before we play ASU. But yes, I don't think it matters. A team could be without coaches and still beat us.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:09 am
by ramcat
scumdevils86 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:09 pm
ramcat wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:03 pm
scumdevils86 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:17 pm Yep. In Pullman, right before ASU.
Actually Cats play Wash St Nov 19th, ASU plays them Oct 30th.

Don't think it'll matter about coaches being let go due to Vaccine mandates, Cougs by 14+ easy.
I meant we play wazzu the week before we play ASU. But yes, I don't think it matters. A team could be without coaches and still beat us.
Ah, my bad. Think Cougs are easily the Buffs equal and we just saw what happened in Boulder.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:16 am
by Chicat
I give all the credit in the world to the kids on this team who are still busting their asses every day in practice. I know they have to be hurt, sore, exhausted, and tired as fuck of losing, and I would not blame them for giving up.

To all those players still giving 100%, Bear Down! You’re Wildcats for life. Be proud of the effort and sacrifice you’ve made. I just wish you were on a better team.

Re: 2021 Season Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:32 am
by EastCoastCat
Chicat wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:16 am I give all the credit in the world to the kids on this team who are still busting their asses every day in practice. I know they have to be hurt, sore, exhausted, and tired as fuck of losing, and I would not blame them for giving up.

To all those players still giving 100%, Bear Down! You’re Wildcats for life. Be proud of the effort and sacrifice you’ve made. I just wish you were on a better team.
Fucking-A right Chi...I'm with you. Hats off to the players who are fighting hard every day to try and get us out of this mess. They deserve much better so I will support them each and every week!

The President and AD? That's a different story.