Bear Down Wildcats

Just thought we could use a new thread to track the latest when it comes to Sumlin's staff.

Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

S and C staff?

MrMeow wrote:S and C staff?

God please get them the tf out. So many injuries.

Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.



That was quick in and out.

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.



That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.



That was quick in and out.

Did he actually move to Tucson?

btfd16 wrote:

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.



That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

That really didnt sit well with me either. I was thinking/hoping that Heeke would make the new coach take him or strongly consider it.

btfd16 wrote:

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.



That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

I imagine he will be compensated. Small potatoes in the scope of things.

Thought I saw on Twitter that Heeke had Justice sign a contract with mitigation, like Sumlin signed. If FAU resigns Justice, UA is off the hook for his salary.

I would assume his salary here would be higher than his FAU salary. I hope so, because I think he deserves something from us. If he goes back to FAU it works out ok, but it's a bad position we put him in and I'd feel better knowing he ended up better off somehow.

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

MrMeow wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

MrMeow wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

The only outside hire Yates would have made is Boone and Donte. Amey and Addae were hired from within. This leads me to believe RR had all the say.

Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

PHXCATS wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

I would not doubt that is accurate, but what are you basing it on? You have also posted in elsewhere and present it as if you have inside information.

apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

The only confirmed spots taken are Sumlin as HC and Yates as DC.

apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

Yes.

MrMeow wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.

PHXCATS wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

Decision was on Sumlin. 100%

chiefzona wrote:
Decision was on Sumlin. 100%

We are both saying the same thing buddy. Sumlin had final 100% say. Yates gave this thoughts though.

You gonna go to the Spring Game?

Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

MrMeow wrote:Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

No.

PHXCATS wrote:

chiefzona wrote:
Decision was on Sumlin. 100%

We are both saying the same thing buddy. Sumlin had final 100% say. Yates gave this thoughts though.

You gonna go to the Spring Game?

Yeah, I'll be at the spring game.

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

Making room for Cecil and Hunley.

jimson wrote:

MrMeow wrote:

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

Making room for Cecil and Hunley.

You only hire alumni who other schools want to hire.

Dont think that is the case here

Maybe, but a guy can hope.

You only hire assistant coaches who want to recruit. Can't say if Hunley or Cecil do, they aren't so young anymore, but if they do, then love to have them. They will certainly win the meet and greets with donors and other fans.

Cecil and Hunley? At Stony Brook?

Bye bye Brian Knorr.

chiefzona wrote:Bye bye Brian Knorr.

Yup. He was told this morning. With Addae gone, the only one with a real shot is Boone.

chiefzona wrote:

MrMeow wrote:Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

No.

You can do better than that

chiefzona wrote:

apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

Yes.

Okay, I hadn't seen anything official.

I have to believe Mazzone was strongly looking at the New Mexico job, which would make a lot of sense for him.

He graduated from New Mexico, started coaching there, knows Bob Davie and wants to become a head coach. Mazzone would be an automatic hire at New Mexico when Bob Davie leaves, especially if he was already an OC that connected with Albuquerque.

I think Mazzone is a great hire for OC at Arizona, but I wouldn't mind seeing him at New Mexico either. Hopefully we will see an official announcement soon if it's not already available.

Meat makes a lot of sense for you guys

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

btfd16 wrote:

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

I love the "Boyz n the Hood" tee Gerald is rockin' in that pic with Yates.

chiefzona wrote:Bye bye Brian Knorr.

Was he ever really here?

btfd16 wrote:

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

Pop McKale wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

There's a Bill and a Billy

Pop McKale wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

Billy is on staff as an 'Operations Coordinator', whatever that is.

Singletary is a joke.

jimson wrote:

Pop McKale wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

There's a Bill and a Billy

Ah, got it.

Boone's out me heard.

Clean house on everyone besides Yates

Any more word on Singletary? That becomes the most important one. I would expect Sumlin to have a guy but you never know.

Chief any idea on if he can get Brian Polian to come over?

Merkin wrote:You only hire assistant coaches who want to recruit. Can't say if Hunley or Cecil do, they aren't so young anymore, but if they do, then love to have them. They will certainly win the meet and greets with donors and other fans.

The below is from a Hansen article. Illustrates how I feel about this. If, as some say they are only qualified to be lifelong position coaches, then why not bring them here as such? They certainly have a wealth of experience and NFL background.
Who cares if the young uns don't know them yet? They need to be steeped in the history including the greatest play in UA history, Cecil's 106 yard pick 6. Show recruits Cecil's SI cover framed on the office wall. Pictures of Hunley as a Bronco. They will learn, and they will respect.

I truly believe these two guys would work their asses off for UA out of love and passion for the program and I have no doubt they would recruit like a motherfucker.

They want to be here. It's a no-brainer to me, and something Sumlin should seriously consider.

“We ate at Houston’s; Chuck brought his family,” said Hunley. “As you can imagine, we talked about Wildcat football. That’s what we always talk about. Today, Chuck and I were in agreement — both of us need to be back at Arizona. We both want to be there.”
“We have been treated like outsiders,” said Hunley. “They wouldn’t even introduce recruits to Chuck this year.”
“Low man on the totem pole,” said Hunley. “RichRod didn’t even tell Chuck if he was going to bring him back next season.”
“The football job at Arizona has been lacking people who have passion for the school and the program,” Hunley said. “For whatever reason, any kind of UA connection seemed to be avoided. It’s time to go back like a lot of other schools and take care of your own and be proud of what you’ve built.”

^ great stuff.

I recall Hunley saying too that RichRod wouldn't even let him sit with the UA players during a game. He sat with the UCLA guys.