The 2020-2021 Season Thread

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:16 pm

Well, we did just play our best game of the year so I understand his enthusiasm for next year

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:17 pm

Been down on this team so far this year but got to give them credit for beating a pretty good USC team.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:25 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:30 pm
midnightx wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:31 pm Does everyone still think Arizona will one day be elite again?
Yes, but it may take a couple coaching regimes to do that.

Way to pessimistic. We are about to change from out athletically teams to win to outplaying teams. At least that is my hope.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:25 pm

is the entire roster eligible to return next year?

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:16 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:14 pm Aaron is bullish on our future.

I wish he was offering terms.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 am

azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:25 pm is the entire roster eligible to return next year?

Yes, but not all of them will return.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:38 am

midnightx wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:31 pm Does everyone still think Arizona will one day be elite again?

No Final Fours in 20+ years? We haven't been elite in over a generation. Close but no cigar. The program is and has been in a downward trajectory since we choked against Xavier in the S16. We'll end up being like UNLV or Georgetown. Once great programs that lost their allure. Mediocrity will be the new normal; It pretty much already has.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:21 am

Your face is mediocre!

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:48 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 am
azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:25 pm is the entire roster eligible to return next year?
Yes, but not all of them will return.

you think we lose any surprising guys? Fine with Lee, T. Brown, Baker, Batcho, or Gorener leaving but hope the rest of the core group stays.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:24 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:26 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:50 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:24 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:48 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:07 am

after beating Oregon state by 30+

RPI-66
BPI-33
AP- NR
NET- 31
KenPom-29
after winning @ ASU

RPI-59
BPI-36
AP- 43 (out of 43 receiving votes)
NET- 32
KenPom-27 (16/63)
after L vs Stanford & W vs Cal & ASU

RPI-67
BPI-36
AP- NR (43 teams receiving votes)
NET- 41
KenPom-32 (22/56)
After Losing @Utah and @Colorado
RPI-70
BPI-40
AP- NR
NET- 44
KenPom- 39 (18/84)
after W vs OSU and L vs Oregon

RPI-70
BPI-41
AP- NR
NET- 46
KenPom- 41 (18/88)

after L @ UCLA and W @ USC

RPI-59
BPI-39
AP- NR
NET- 45
KenPom- 39 (18/83)

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:44 pm

goslingswagg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:48 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 am
azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:25 pm is the entire roster eligible to return next year?
Yes, but not all of them will return.
you think we lose any surprising guys? Fine with Lee, T. Brown, Baker, Batcho, or Gorener leaving but hope the rest of the core group stays.

Mathurin is the only candidate that you didn't list.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:37 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:44 pm
goslingswagg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:48 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:34 am
azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:25 pm is the entire roster eligible to return next year?
Yes, but not all of them will return.
you think we lose any surprising guys? Fine with Lee, T. Brown, Baker, Batcho, or Gorener leaving but hope the rest of the core group stays.
Mathurin is the only candidate that you didn't list.

For the life of me I can't understand why players who have some good, raw talent think they're good enough to go pro. If Mathurin leaves, he'll be riding a bus and staying in $55.00/night hotels in the G-League for the next three years. If he stays, he could possibly become a first round pick in 2-3 years.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Maybe he is like Chance Comanche and just doesn't like school. Some players don't like going to classes and doing homework, and would rather play basketball all day.

Or his posse/camp is constantly telling him how good he is and how Miller is not utilizing him right.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm

Yeah, I have been worried about Benn and all of his "attitude" problems. I imagine he might be ready to move on no matter where it leads to. I hope I'm wrong and he stays another year.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm

Mathurin leaving early would be so Arizona.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:48 pm

I like next years lineup of
Akinjo
Kerr
Mathurin
Tubelis
Koloko

With this bench getting minutes
Baker
Terry
J Brown
Lee
Simpson
Nowell

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:00 pm

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:11 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm Mathurin leaving early would be so Arizona.

Yeah only 17 mins vs USC. Not sure whats going on but Miller isn't happy with him

So 2 games left, still no talk of rescheduling the final week. Could we play 2 or 3 more?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:38 pm

I'd love another crack at Oregon.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:49 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:38 pm I'd love another crack at Oregon.

I doubt they make up that game.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:53 pm

I want oregon too!!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:57 pm

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/ ... 89478?s=21

Sounds like the Oregon game is happening.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:00 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:57 pm https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/ ... 89478?s=21

Sounds like the Oregon game is happening.

Tough schedule ahead for our Cats

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:02 pm

I stand corrected.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Well, March 1 is our Super Bowl.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:25 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm Yeah, I have been worried about Benn and all of his "attitude" problems. I imagine he might be ready to move on no matter where it leads to. I hope I'm wrong and he stays another year.

Wait, who said Mathurin has an attitude problem?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:02 pm

Jefe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:11 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm Mathurin leaving early would be so Arizona.
Yeah only 17 mins vs USC. Not sure whats going on but Miller isn't happy with him

So 2 games left, still no talk of rescheduling the final week. Could we play 2 or 3 more?

Terry was outplaying him by a mile against USC. He wasn’t effective and Miller benched him. There’s nothing weird about that.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:14 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm Mathurin leaving early would be so Arizona.

truly the most AZ possible outcome of this offseason would be Mathurin leaving early...the team would be just good enough to not be upset heading into the year, but no real chance at a top 10 ceiling. it unfortunately feels like our destiny at this point haha

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:42 am

Oh, so we pack up Saturday afternoon And fly to Eugene for a Monday game? Is oregon getting rescheduled Thursday and Sunday also? Why such a quick turnaround?

Aaaah, they are playing ucla Wednesday and osu on Sunday.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:44 am

I love our chances to win these final 3 games.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:18 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:25 pm
84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm Yeah, I have been worried about Benn and all of his "attitude" problems. I imagine he might be ready to move on no matter where it leads to. I hope I'm wrong and he stays another year.
Wait, who said Mathurin has an attitude problem?

Sean Miller.

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 160486136/

“Benn has to have a great attitude and has to play with a total effort towards winning the game both on defense and offense,” Miller said. “His body language has to be great and he has to give us everything he has. When he does that, he is a very, very good player.”

On Thursday, however, Mathurin did not do that.

"I didn’t like the way he played,” Miller said. “I thought it was a reflection of our whole team. When somebody is not locked in and you have a couple guys going really, really hard and some others are not, we don’t have that luxury, and we’re not going to walk out at the jump ball and overwhelm any team in the Pac-12

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:57 am

goslingswagg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:14 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm Mathurin leaving early would be so Arizona.
truly the most AZ possible outcome of this offseason would be Mathurin leaving early...the team would be just good enough to not be upset heading into the year, but no real chance at a top 10 ceiling. it unfortunately feels like our destiny at this point haha

I don't want to overstate the importance of having Mathurin return, but I think your forecast is very probable. We need his athleticism and scoring to hit that elusive next level. I'm going to assume he's coming back because I've seen nothing to indicate he's got one foot out the door. This team seems to have a good vibe.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:25 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:18 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:25 pm
84Cat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm Yeah, I have been worried about Benn and all of his "attitude" problems. I imagine he might be ready to move on no matter where it leads to. I hope I'm wrong and he stays another year.
Wait, who said Mathurin has an attitude problem?
Sean Miller.

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 160486136/

“Benn has to have a great attitude and has to play with a total effort towards winning the game both on defense and offense,” Miller said. “His body language has to be great and he has to give us everything he has. When he does that, he is a very, very good player.”

On Thursday, however, Mathurin did not do that.

"I didn’t like the way he played,” Miller said. “I thought it was a reflection of our whole team. When somebody is not locked in and you have a couple guys going really, really hard and some others are not, we don’t have that luxury, and we’re not going to walk out at the jump ball and overwhelm any team in the Pac-12

When I think "attitude problem", I think of fighting with teammates, disrupting practices, and being a shit head. Call it the Chris Rodgers Effect.

Sounds like Miller is more trying to light a fire under Benn and that he wants him to bring 100% effort to every time he steps on a basketball court.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:53 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:44 am I love our chances to win these final 3 games.

Especially after usc killed Oregon, they have a rough slate of games ahead of them.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:25 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:47 pm

Nice! I love it when the...I mean *our* Super Bowl is televised.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 pm

DD and Akot trying to take down SDSU

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 pm

Duh, that's a 2

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:15 pm

I am shocked the game before us went to OT. Just shocked.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:16 pm

UA game just started on FS2

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:16 pm

Kerr out tonight

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:19 pm

I thought it was a 2 Live.
Not sure how they kept it a 3

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:20 pm

Mathurin, throw it down

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:22 pm

UA 8
WSU 7 first timeout

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:24 pm

Live stream for FS2.........its delayed by about 1 minute

http://tv247.us/watch/fox-sports-2/

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:29 pm

This feels like one of those games that will be decided by who wares down in the 2nd half first.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:32 pm

Game thread: viewtopic.php?p=476079#p476079

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:27 am

Ira Lee is starting Senior Day, so like Choo has been saying, apparently not coming back.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... jeAXFClDcU

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:52 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:27 am Ira Lee is starting Senior Day, so like Choo has been saying, apparently not coming back.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... jeAXFClDcU

If true, that is sad because the fans won't be able to show him how much we love & appreciate him

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:16 pm

If memory serves, both UArizona and our "travel partner" ASU missed playing games at Eugene during the same week this season because of Covid protocols. In their case, if I understand it right, they got to play a doubleheader against Washington in TEMPE to make theirs up, while we've played a game Thursday, we'll play a game Saturday, then we'll fly up to Eugene to make that game up on Monday. That's after our Senior Day when we have virtually nothing to play for other than love of the game in a conference with demonstrably regionally biased officiating. I get that it doesn't really make any difference to us, and "we get to play one more game" in a season where each game conducted is considered a win over Covid. And I haven't done an exhaustive analysis of the consolidated schedule to identify the winners and losers in the postponed game rescheduling. But, there's at least one talking head type who has openly said that it's great to job the system and put a thumb on the scale "if it gets more conference teams into the NCAAs." Well, I think the point of athletic competition is to have exactly as many teams in the NCAAs as EARN it after playing a fair and balanced schedule. It's yet another reason to Ray Guy punt Larry (I can do you favors if you're nice to me) Scott out of the overpriced Pac-12 Embarcadero-area offices, across the Bay, and back to his house in Danville.

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