Coach Don Brown

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:39 pm

The coordinators need their own thread.

Love this guy.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:39 pm

Defense is going to bring it this year. Going to be a very physical, attacking unit

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:29 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:39 pm Defense is going to bring it this year. Going to be a very physical, attacking unit

Spot on. We will be bringing the heat and it will a ton of fun to watch!

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:01 am

I don't expect the rebirth of desert swarm, I'm not sure total shut down D is possible against today's offenses, but I'm confident the defense is going to make a notable leap this year.
When was the last time we were able to make an opposing QB slightly uncomfortable?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:05 am

AV8RCAT wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:01 am
When was the last time we were able to make an opposing QB slightly uncomfortable?

When Scooby took Bercovici's head off.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:20 am

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:05 am
AV8RCAT wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:01 am
When was the last time we were able to make an opposing QB slightly uncomfortable?
When Scooby took Bercovici's head off.

Not a big fan of NIL, but maybe more players will finish their college career if they can generate some income.
Scooby would have been a local marketing dream.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:36 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:39 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:36 pm

The Wildcats rank 44th in total defense, giving up 354.2 yards per game but are as low as 81st in scoring defense, allowing 28.56 points per game.

That's fantastic! She beats being in the 100's during the RichRod and Sumlin years.

Even more incredible having a highly rated defense with such a piss poor offense too.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:05 pm

I would say Don Brown is the best coordinator we have had this millennium by a large margin, with only Sonny Dykes remotely close.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:03 pm

Listening to Don Brown talk about his players makes it clear why these guys play so hard for him and is clear why recruiting comes so easy for him. Here he is talking about a guy who is not even on his unit, Will Plummer, today.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:55 pm

He made this improvement with Sumlin's wreckage and a few transfers. Wonder what he could have done with the
Schooler bros, Tony Fields and Kylan Wilborn? The D is ahead in the rebuild. You can build a program on that foundation.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:50 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:03 pm Listening to Don Brown talk about his players makes it clear why these guys play so hard for him and is clear why recruiting comes so easy for him. Here he is talking about a guy who is not even on his unit, Will Plummer, today.

Fuck yeah coach

Basketcats · Post by **Basketcats** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:03 am

I like him. Hands down best coach on the staff. I kind of think it is possible he gets the Cats to be the top D in Pac 12 play (top 25 in the country) within the next 3 years.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:31 am

Basketcats wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:03 am I like him. Hands down best coach on the staff. I kind of think it is possible he gets the Cats to be the top D in Pac 12 play (top 25 in the country) within the next 3 years.

Hoping he stays those three years, if so I agree.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:42 am

Takes 5 years to get vested in the ASRS, or something like that. ASRS has some odd criteria.

But he is already taking Medicare.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:11 pm

Damn it!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:54 pm

Fuck no, give him a raise that matches the UMass HC job.

Cats finally get a defense that isn't in the 100's.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:18 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:54 pm Fuck no, give him a raise that matches the UMass HC job.

Cats finally get a defense that isn't in the 100's.

Bell at UMass made $630,000 this year. I believe Brown is set to make $800,000 next year.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm

Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.

I could get behind this.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:54 pm

Fisch has no hope without Brown. Not sure if this will really come down to money. Brown is from the NE area so I assume this will be a going home to retire type of deal if it happens.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:11 pm

He deserves a head coaching gig.

I hope he gets 1.

We are fucked without him

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:30 pm

I swear this football program is cursed. We just can't have nice things for long.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:33 am

At 65, would he really want a head coaching gig?
Hopefully he loves the weather and figures he can be traveling and recruiting in cooler places during the summer.
If he really wants that challenge, it might be his last, best chance.
He has his system in here and hopefully a protege who can be promoted to continue it.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:26 am

If Brown takes the UMass job it won't be for the money.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:35 am

I agree, give him the HC job here. Jedd can be his recruiting coordinator.

Basketcats · Post by **Basketcats** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.
I could get behind this.

I was going to suggest this in my previous post praising him, but, I held back because I didn't want to ruffle any Fisch fanboy feathers.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:12 pm

Basketcats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.
I could get behind this.
I was going to suggest this in my previous post praising him, but, I held back because I didn't want to ruffle any Fisch fanboy feathers.

Are there any Fisch fanboys left?

Basketcats · Post by **Basketcats** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:12 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:12 pm
Basketcats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.
I could get behind this.
I was going to suggest this in my previous post praising him, but, I held back because I didn't want to ruffle any Fisch fanboy feathers.
Are there any Fisch fanboys left?

I am sure there are. Like I said, I was just trying to be positive and stand by my alma mater while the window licking administrators insist on running everything into the ground.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:27 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:12 pm
Basketcats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.
I could get behind this.
I was going to suggest this in my previous post praising him, but, I held back because I didn't want to ruffle any Fisch fanboy feathers.
Are there any Fisch fanboys left?

There weren't any in the first place. Liking moves he made in the offseason doesn't make someone a fanboy.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:11 am

The intangible aspects of the program were done above most expectations and he should be commended for the improvement we have seen there. Most reserved judgement on the coaching aspect. I will give him a little more time to get his guys in here but you can't get good players unless you show progress and I doubt most will see a one win team over a COVID devastated opponent as much progress. Next year will be critical and quite frankly Coach Brown is a BIG part of that.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:13 am

If Brown does in fact get the UMass job who becomes the next DC?

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:34 am

One thing about being in a lot of places. Lasso know a shitload of other coaches.

He brought in Brown. I had never heard of him.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:35 am

Jimmy Lake is available.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:48 am

azgreg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:35 am Jimmy Lake is available.

S&C position is filled thanks.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:48 am
azgreg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:35 am Jimmy Lake is available.
S&C position is filled thanks.

As a DC he was pretty good. Put a lot of kids in the league.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:10 pm

It's pretty much official.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:20 pm

He's 65, this is his last chance at any other job.

The one good year in defense going back to the Mark Stoops' years.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:31 pm

Shit, huge loss

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:02 am

BBQ wildcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:12 pm
Basketcats wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm Give him the head coaching job and shitcan Fisch.
I could get behind this.
I was going to suggest this in my previous post praising him, but, I held back because I didn't want to ruffle any Fisch fanboy feathers.
Are there any Fisch fanboys left?

I guess that would be me. I suppose I figured there were a lot of factors involved in the lack of success other than Fisch's play calling, but the wazzoo game has soured me a bit in general. We won't have any momentum in the off season, he's losing his most important assistant, fan interest will be even worse than this year, can he keep the recruiting class intact? I don't feel very hopeful any more.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:58 am

Can't do more than this

Arizona attempted to keep Brown with a two-year contract that would have made him the Pac-12’s highest-paid assistant coach, according to a source.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:45 am

Wonder if Fisch reaches out to his buddy Billick?

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:47 am

Obviously, I agree. But, it's also true that when somebody has already made a major life decision, it becomes a case of being too late and "why did you only offer this when you got desperate?" He's using UMass as a bridge to retirement in his desired location, which is fine for him, but doesn't do much for them long-term. Personally, I don't know that I'd make a 65-year-old with maybe one or two years left in his tank the highest paid assistant in the league. It's not like he would be any kind of heir-apparent for head coach. We needed to transition to somebody younger, and this unfortunately forces the issue too soon. Almost a Homer Smith issue on the defensive side of the ball. In terms of money, what I'd like to see is that we'd have budget for maybe the third or fourth highest paid overall coaching staff in the league and see who we could get and then retain.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:27 pm

I get why he'd leave.
but still
this sucks

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:52 am

Is he going to be on the sideline against assu?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:53 am

PieceOfMeat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:52 am Is he going to be on the sideline against assu?

That's what I've heard.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm

He will be there for sure. Funny though he never bothered to buy a house in Tucson that I have heard and his wife never even came out to join him. Doesn’t sound like a guy who felt he would finish his career here to me

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:54 pm

So does the D fall apart or do they all play like wildcats and get Herm fired?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:13 pm

Isn't Herm going to be fired anyway?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:11 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:53 am
PieceOfMeat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:52 am Is he going to be on the sideline against assu?
That's what I've heard.

Thanks for the info. Hopefully he manages some magic with the D in this last game.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:02 pm He will be there for sure. Funny though he never bothered to buy a house in Tucson that I have heard and his wife never even came out to join him. Doesn’t sound like a guy who felt he would finish his career here to me

I wasn't aware of that. Figures though.

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