Bear Down Wildcats

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:57 am the guys from San Jose State are just too good to let go or something.

We are mid-level Mountain West good.

As far as new assistant coaches go I sure hope we have people in mind and people that are interested. Recruiting and the transfer portal is not going to wait.

Hiring well qualified assistants is not going to be easy.

1) The UA doesn't have much money (the school is broke)

2) Any potential applicant is going to know that Brennan is already on the hot seat and may be gone in as little as a year. What coach wants to apply for a job knowing that he may get canned before he can unpack his belongings??

3) The UA football team is in rebuilding mode. The new assistants are going to have to recruit their asses off, without much in the way of NIL

I doubt we are going to get the cream of the crop, knowing that the potential applicants are aware of #1-#3

dmjcat wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:09 pm Hiring well qualified assistants is not going to be easy.

1) The UA doesn't have much money (the school is broke)

The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants, so money to get good ones shouldn't be an issue.

Your other two points are valid though. But about #2, an upside is knowing if you do a good job you'll have your foot in the door for the head coaching job.

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:57 am

azcat49 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:57 am Only three? Man I would jettison about 4 more. I would also let those coordinators bring in their own position coaches

Yup, but the guys from San Jose State are just too good to let go or something. Truthfully the only assistant that should keep his job is probably Carter. Everybody else can go.

Don't know about Carter neither... Sure he seems to be a great person, but can he coach? I know Oline contributed to lackluster rushing, but the RB room doesn't give me confidence right now.

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

I just re-listened and he said it's possible that the money could be used for assistants. Possible.

Abrahamarvel wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:47 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:57 am

azcat49 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:57 am Only three? Man I would jettison about 4 more. I would also let those coordinators bring in their own position coaches

Yup, but the guys from San Jose State are just too good to let go or something. Truthfully the only assistant that should keep his job is probably Carter. Everybody else can go.

Don't know about Carter neither... Sure he seems to be a great person, but can he coach? I know Oline contributed to lackluster rushing, but the RB room doesn't give me confidence right now.

Seeing as how O line was one of the biggest weaknesses of an overall weak team, I'd say they were a large part of why our RBs didn't do much (along with an ancient terrible offensive scheme)

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

So, the “boosters” actually wrote checks/transferred $13 million expressly to get rid of Brennan and now that money is earmarked for assistants to help him get the program back on track?

Like, they didn’t make Brennan’s firing a prerequisite for writing a check/transferring money?

Or, they didn’t promise the money to fire Brennan would be transferred once he was in fact fired?

Seems improbable.

Winger wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:24 am

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

So, the “boosters” actually wrote checks/transferred $13 million expressly to get rid of Brennan and now that money is earmarked for assistants to help him get the program back on track?

Like, they didn’t make Brennan’s firing a prerequisite for writing a check/transferring money?

Or, they didn’t promise the money to fire Brennan would be transferred once he was in fact fired?

Seems improbable.

I imagine the conversation going something like this:

DRF: Hi, I'm trying to raise the funds in order to terminate Brennan's contract. Can you help?
Booster: Sure. How much do you need?
DRF: $14 million.
Booster: I can help with $5 mil.
DRF: Great
DRF: Oh, just in case I determine not to terminate Brennan can I use your funds for anything else?
Booster: Go fuck yourself. If I don't have that money back within 24 hours I'm sending some dude that goes by the name MAchina on you.

Fishclamps wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:05 am Seeing as how O line was one of the biggest weaknesses of an overall weak team, I'd say they were a large part of why our RBs didn't do much (along with an ancient terrible offensive scheme)

They sure couldn't poke any holes to make some running space, but Fifita led the nation in TTT (time to throw) for most of the season.

Merkin wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:59 am

Fishclamps wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:05 am Seeing as how O line was one of the biggest weaknesses of an overall weak team, I'd say they were a large part of why our RBs didn't do much (along with an ancient terrible offensive scheme)

They sure couldn't poke any holes to make some running space, but Fifita led the nation in TTT (time to throw) for most of the season.

It takes a while to backpedal 20 yards.

azgreg wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:20 am

Winger wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:24 am

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

So, the “boosters” actually wrote checks/transferred $13 million expressly to get rid of Brennan and now that money is earmarked for assistants to help him get the program back on track?

Like, they didn’t make Brennan’s firing a prerequisite for writing a check/transferring money?

Or, they didn’t promise the money to fire Brennan would be transferred once he was in fact fired?

Seems improbable.

I imagine the conversation going something like this:

DRF: Hi, I'm trying to raise the funds in order to terminate Brennan's contract. Can you help?
Booster: Sure. How much do you need?
DRF: $14 million.
Booster: I can help with $5 mil.
DRF: Great
DRF: Oh, just in case I determine not to terminate Brennan can I use your funds for anything else?
Booster: Go fuck yourself. If I don't have that money back within 24 hours I'm sending some dude that goes by the name MAchina on you.

C

Winger wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:24 am

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

So, the “boosters” actually wrote checks/transferred $13 million expressly to get rid of Brennan and now that money is earmarked for assistants to help him get the program back on track?

Like, they didn’t make Brennan’s firing a prerequisite for writing a check/transferring money?

Or, they didn’t promise the money to fire Brennan would be transferred once he was in fact fired?

Seems improbable.

I think this is all speculation and wishful thinking. No one knows the amount that was ponied up or what conditions were on that money if any. Personally I think our AD would need to flow a potential hire or other info to get them to open their wallets.

TheCat wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:18 pm

Winger wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:24 am

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:36 pm

azgreg wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm The checks boosters wrote to get rid of Brennan will go to new assistants

How do you know?

Scheer claimed that in his latest podcast.

So, the “boosters” actually wrote checks/transferred $13 million expressly to get rid of Brennan and now that money is earmarked for assistants to help him get the program back on track?

Like, they didn’t make Brennan’s firing a prerequisite for writing a check/transferring money?

Or, they didn’t promise the money to fire Brennan would be transferred once he was in fact fired?

Seems improbable.

I think this is all speculation and wishful thinking. No one knows the amount that was ponied up or what conditions were on that money if any. Personally I think our AD would need to flow a potential hire or other info to get them to open their wallets.

Not certain on this ^^^ but a lot of what has been floated to date doesn't make much sense. Further, no one I have talked to/asked nor hang with has heard about the fundraising for his buyout. That is different than saying it didn't happen, but for now it just seems off. Especially the $$$ moving from paying Brennan's buyout to hiring new assistants (or going to NIL). But also DRF allegedly having raised the $13 mil for his buyout and then electing not to fire Brennan. That is a stupid and politically risky move. That is in part why I posted way back that if she had the money Brennan was done for.

My guess is that she got some much smaller amount of money committed to the buyout. Once she realized she wasn't close, she asked those donors if she could get her son a BBALL scholarship, I mean she asked the donors if they would spend those dollars on NIL.

Tell them you are going to get Liberty head coach Jamey Chadwell and his record and someone will pony up some bucks or should. Got to have a replacement that is realistic before you ask for money to get rid of a coach.

Postmaster wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:10 pm …. she asked those donors if she could get her son a BBALL scholarship, I mean she asked the donors if they would spend those dollars on NIL.

Ned Zissou wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:08 pm

Postmaster wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:10 pm …. she asked those donors if she could get her son a BBALL scholarship, I mean she asked the donors if they would spend those dollars on NIL.

One OC candidate down.
And maybe out on another.
Say hello to OC Matt Adkins.

If more fans showed up then there would be more money for assistant coaches

Not complicated

PHXCATS wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:23 am If more fans showed up then there would be more money for assistant coaches

Not complicated

PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am Always looking for others to pay

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:10 pm

Who and when?

Probably better Akina goes back to secondary. I didn't have any real problem if he came back as DC but he knows where his bread is buttered.

Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:22 pm

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:10 pm

Who and when?

Your guess is as good as mine. Hopefully they're eyeing someone who is still playing.

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:37 pm

UNLV's Brennan Marion?

I thought Gonzales was terrible all year in every aspect. I hope he doesn’t get the job.

Merkin wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:48 pm

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:37 pm

UNLV's Brennan Marion?

Dirk Koetter? Can imagine having two ex ASU coaches as coordinators at teh same time?

Merkin wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:48 pm

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:37 pm

UNLV's Brennan Marion?

We can try. Seems half the teams that need an OC are eyeing him right now.

Fishclamps wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:19 pm

Merkin wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:48 pm

azgreg wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:37 pm

UNLV's Brennan Marion?

We can try. Seems half the teams that need an OC are eyeing him right now.

I am sure all the fans saying they ain't coming back and attacking the coaches will help

I would love Marion and would give more to get him

Looks like Utah is targeting the guy from New Mexico.

So Atkins the play calling for at least half of the season. The play calling seemed bad all season. They might make him OC?
Do I have that correct?

Postmaster wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:04 pm So Atkins the play calling for at least half of the season. The play calling seemed bad all season. They might make him OC?
Do I have that correct?

Not quite sure where you got the idea they were gonna make Adkins the OC

Scheer said on twitter, the new OC will interview position coaches, and decide if they stay. Tha't a good sign to me.

Postmaster wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:04 pm So Atkins the play calling for at least half of the season. The play calling seemed bad all season. They might make him OC?
Do I have that correct?

He's going outside for the OC.

Thanks for clarification, I must have misread something.

Jobs are posted and it looks like they're willing to pay quite a bit more this year.

azgreg wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:02 pm Jobs are posted and it looks like they're willing to pay quite a bit more this year.

That’s only because Machina Bears Down for our sins.

#BadFanNoMoney

Can someone competently articulate why an up and coming OC (or any other assistant) would come here to coach for a lame duck that’s getting fired in a year? I would understand an unknown guy, but to think we’re in the running for any of the hotshots seems ridiculously homerish/optimistic.

AZarchery wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:39 pm Can someone competently articulate why an up and coming OC (or any other assistant) would come here to coach for a lame duck that’s getting fired in a year? I would understand an unknown guy, but to think we’re in the running for any of the hotshots seems ridiculously homerish/optimistic.

Kind of depends what your network is. If you’ve been building a roster of coaches at various levels who have worked with you and like you, you can take a chance on showing any kind of improvement. And if you do improve the offense, you move on to bigger and better things. If not, you rely on your network to help you land your next gig. A one year set-back isn’t a career killer and just having Power 5 OC on your resume can be the ticket to much bigger things.

Anybody heard anything? Surprised it's taking this long with the portal open.

Who would make a good OC-that we can get?

DC?

Carcassdragger wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:04 pm Anybody heard anything? Surprised it's taking this long with the portal open.

Unless the rules have changed, the university needs to wait for the job listings to close to make any announcements, in case Shay Binnion wants to apply again.

azgreg wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:02 pm Jobs are posted and it looks like they're willing to pay quite a bit more this year.

Thanks Merk. Also likely to be a guy who's tied up until after a bowl.

In previous years, we'd have a hotboard up by now.

Merkin wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:26 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:04 pm Anybody heard anything? Surprised it's taking this long with the portal open.

Unless the rules have changed, the university needs to wait for the job listings to close to make any announcements, in case Shay Binnion wants to apply again.

They've waived for coaches in the past.

Scheer said on Luke's podcast today that he expects a hiring announcement in 48-72 hours.