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This is the most honest and accurate post-mortem I've seen. The crowd had every reason to be upset. Some will say "well, we didn't dominate from the opening tip, so it's our own fault," but that's true of every close loss by every team in every sport, and nobody dominates every game. It was an egregious call, and while I'm supremely skeptical, the league should still take some kind of action, even if it's safely non-public in the off-season. The crowd didn't riot, but they unfortunately lashed out at the first thing they could think of that was available. Some think PR black eyes are tragic terminal illnesses, but I think more in terms of 24-hour news cycles and click bait. Another unfortunate aspect of the turn of events is that the narrative neatly switched from The Call to The Chant, FWIW. I'd say take it out on Utah, but the biggest key is to win the rest of our home games in the stretch run.Alieberman wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:27 pm When that call was made and the crowd was going super agitated... I said to my son... "This is about to get ugly... people are going to start throwing shit onto the court" I was relieved that didn't happen but I know something would happen. I guess the anti mormon rant was just the easiest... lowest common denominator form of protest. It was certainly a bad look that could have been even worse. Hopefully the message was received.
Lmao…that’d be a great show.
It's not that simple. It also gives ample insight through stories of the church's history, founders, etc. perhaps you missed that part.
Having grown up in Mesa, Arizona, the correct chant should have been “Frick the Mormons!”Merkin wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:54 am Not even sure I would bet that half the Zona Zoo would know who founded the LDS church, and even less what angel appeared to him.
Thinking most of the Zona Zoo would guess Brigham Young as the founder.
So not really a statement on Mormonism, just pissed off students lashing out on an easy subject. And like Chi said, take it out on Padilla.
It was hate speech! Period!LuteIsGod wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:47 amHaving grown up in Mesa, Arizona, the correct chant should have been “Frick the Mormons!”Merkin wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:54 am Not even sure I would bet that half the Zona Zoo would know who founded the LDS church, and even less what angel appeared to him.
Thinking most of the Zona Zoo would guess Brigham Young as the founder.
So not really a statement on Mormonism, just pissed off students lashing out on an easy subject. And like Chi said, take it out on Padilla.
Amenpc in NM wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:32 amIt was hate speech! Period!LuteIsGod wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:47 amHaving grown up in Mesa, Arizona, the correct chant should have been “Frick the Mormons!”Merkin wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:54 am Not even sure I would bet that half the Zona Zoo would know who founded the LDS church, and even less what angel appeared to him.
Thinking most of the Zona Zoo would guess Brigham Young as the founder.
So not really a statement on Mormonism, just pissed off students lashing out on an easy subject. And like Chi said, take it out on Padilla.
Quit trying to minimize that!!
This is a stain on the U of A, the Athletic department and the student body!
I agree! It was a bunch of angry sports fan students impulsively being rude. I don't want to overemphasize their representation of the entire student body... Those kids fucked up. It was public. It made headlines nationwide.TheCat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:16 pm I think you can over ref on the condemnation of the fans and alumni for what was just a bunch of stupid kids that should be more in tune with what is acceptable and what isn't. It was regrettable but hardly representative of the University students and alumni in total. The Zona Zoo should now make sure they police their own and root out any further transgression of this type for good.
My hope is that we play them in the Big12 conference tournament. I think they are a really good team who most represents a team like Alabama. I want those style differences to simulate what we might see in the tournament. Utah tonight will be letting it rip also.pc in NM wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:56 pmI agree! It was a bunch of angry sports fan students impulsively being rude. I don't want to overemphasize their representation of the entire student body... Those kids fucked up. It was public. It made headlines nationwide.TheCat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:16 pm I think you can over ref on the condemnation of the fans and alumni for what was just a bunch of stupid kids that should be more in tune with what is acceptable and what isn't. It was regrettable but hardly representative of the University students and alumni in total. The Zona Zoo should now make sure they police their own and root out any further transgression of this type for good.
Trust me, Ive done worse. (And I fully deserved the criticism I received when I did)
Slap the ZOO's on their wrists. Tell them to STFU. And be glad it's over.
... however, I find the discounting and other commentary herein to be totally off the mark.
Chicat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:10 pm I’m just glad we have another opportunity to acknowledge Machina as the only truly good fan.
Can't he do that again?Merkin wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 1:11 pm Won't even resemble the same Auburn team by then. Pearl went all in on seniors from the portal.
It hasn't been announced yet. But for what it's worth every game of the Women's Big 12 tournament will be on ESPN+.Postmaster wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:34 pm Does anyone know if the Big12 tournament will be on FESPN+?
I believe that ESPN+ broadcasts EVERY Big-12 game not on another national venue.AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:06 pmIt hasn't been announced yet. But for what it's worth every game of the Women's Big 12 tournament will be on ESPN+.Postmaster wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:34 pm Does anyone know if the Big12 tournament will be on FESPN+?
The only linear network games are two quarterfinals on ESPNU and the championship game on ESPN. (All times Tucson/West Coast.)AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:06 pmIt hasn't been announced yet. But for what it's worth every game of the Women's Big 12 tournament will be on ESPN+.Postmaster wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:34 pm Does anyone know if the Big12 tournament will be on FESPN+?
On a side note, it's virtually impossible for any team below top 4 seeds to win!! Four games, in four days makes it too much!!!TheCatInTheHat wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:16 amThe only linear network games are two quarterfinals on ESPNU and the championship game on ESPN. (All times Tucson/West Coast.)AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:06 pmIt hasn't been announced yet. But for what it's worth every game of the Women's Big 12 tournament will be on ESPN+.Postmaster wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:34 pm Does anyone know if the Big12 tournament will be on FESPN+?
2025 Phillips 66 Big 12 Women's Basketball Championship Schedule
First Round - Wednesday, March 5
Game 1 - No. 12 seed vs. No. 13 Seed - 9 a.m., ESPN+
Game 2 - No. 9 seed vs. No. 16 seed - 11:30 a.m., ESPN+
Game 3 - No. 10 seed vs. No. 15 seed - 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Game 4 - No. 11 seed vs. No. 14 seed - 6 p.m., ESPN+
Second Round - Thursday, March 6
Game 5 - No. 5 seed vs. Winner of Game 1 - 9 a.m., ESPN+
Game 6 - No. 8 seed vs. Winner of Game 2 - 11:30 a.m., ESPN+
Game 7 - No. 7 seed vs. Winner of Game 3 - 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Game 8 - No. 6 seed vs. Winner of Game 4 - 6 p.m., ESPN+
Quarterfinals - Friday, March 7
Game 9 - No. 4 seed vs. Winner of Game 5 - 9 a.m., ESPNU
Game 10 - No. 1 seed vs. Winner of Game 6 - 11:30 a.m., ESPNU
Game 11 - No. 2 seed vs. Winner of Game 7 - 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Game 12 - No. 3 seed vs. Winner of Game 8 - 6 p.m., ESPN+
Semifinals - Saturday, March 8
Game 13 - Winner of Game 9 vs. Winner of Game 10 - 1 p.m., ESPN+
Game 14 - Winner of Game 11 vs. Winner of Game 12 - 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Final - Sunday, March 9*
Game 15 - Winner of Game 13 vs. Winner of Game 14 - 2 p.m., ESPN
(*Should BYU advance to the Championship the game will be played Monday, March 10.)
Referees will be Padilla and two clones of Padilla.
Padilla was a ref the first time we played them. If our guards can play a little better than they did the first game (Love took 22 shots) and V picks it up (only had 3pts in first game) we have a chance at beating these guys. I don't expect Tobe to be as good (6/6) or Carter (4/5 from 3) but no one played absolutely out of their minds other than those guys. Had 15 TO's so if we can cut those down and hit some outside shots we have a shot. Of course they had a bunch of TO's that wont be repeated at home. The first time we played them they were missing their best 3 pt shooter and he is back.
Imagine if we did it the Sunbelt way…pc in NM wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:05 pm On a side note, it's virtually impossible for any team below top 4 seeds to win!! Four games, in four days makes it too much!!!
Here's the complete answer to your question: "$$$$$"bison79 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:05 am Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL
On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.
yeah, that's a wild format. i wonder if they're trying to make it easier for fans to travel-in for the games and to optimize ticket sales, since it's a smaller arena. imagine one of the low seeds going on a run, though, and having to extend your trip by up to five days as a fan. unlikely, but the sun belt conference does have a lot of parity!bison79 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:05 am Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL
On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.
the design of that court is pretty much what i'd expect an undefeated x big12 collab to look like. there might be some sweet tourney merch. also, i had no idea that undefeated dabbled in athletic sponsorships outside of combat sports
Just think about what an ultimate heater you’d be on if you won 7 games in a row. As a fan, I’d have a hard on that could flip an 18-wheeler.dirtbags wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:16 pmyeah, that's a wild format. i wonder if they're trying to make it easier for fans to travel-in for the games and to optimize ticket sales, since it's a smaller arena. imagine one of the low seeds going on a run, though, and having to extend your trip by up to five days as a fan. unlikely, but the sun belt conference does have a lot of parity!bison79 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:05 am Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL
On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.
That would be Valvano NC State-ish.Chicat wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:52 pmJust think about what an ultimate heater you’d be on if you won 7 games in a row. As a fan, I’d have a hard on that could flip an 18-wheeler.dirtbags wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:16 pmyeah, that's a wild format. i wonder if they're trying to make it easier for fans to travel-in for the games and to optimize ticket sales, since it's a smaller arena. imagine one of the low seeds going on a run, though, and having to extend your trip by up to five days as a fan. unlikely, but the sun belt conference does have a lot of parity!bison79 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:05 am Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL
On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.
Need to win tonight to lock up a top 4 seed.TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:23 pm I think we just locked up at least 4th in the big 12 and a double bye. BYU plays Iowa St. still so one has to lose. Just need to beat Ariz St.. Now let's win all three and leave no doubt who is number 2 in the conference.
You’re living in the past my brother…
I think Arizona only needs one win in the final 3 games. Does not have to be tonight. At least that is my understanding. Someone who knows more can way in. Might as well win tonight and the other two.AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:25 pmNeed to win tonight to lock up a top 4 seed.TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:23 pm I think we just locked up at least 4th in the big 12 and a double bye. BYU plays Iowa St. still so one has to lose. Just need to beat Ariz St.. Now let's win all three and leave no doubt who is number 2 in the conference.
Best way to get money for the whole conference is tournament sharesdirtbags wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:16 pmyeah, that's a wild format. i wonder if they're trying to make it easier for fans to travel-in for the games and to optimize ticket sales, since it's a smaller arena. imagine one of the low seeds going on a run, though, and having to extend your trip by up to five days as a fan. unlikely, but the sun belt conference does have a lot of parity!bison79 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:05 am Why? What is the profound logic in a conference tournament like this? As a lower seed, why even bother showing up? I get protecting the higher seeds, but there's no need to protect any seed below the top 5-6. LOL
On a lighter note, maybe they should rename the conference to the "Flying V" conference.