azcat49 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:20 pm
College paying more than the pro’s. Who’d a thunk that
College is definitely a more guaranteed income at this point. There are just way more spots than the NBA.
Shit man, if someone wanted to pay me $50k to play basketball at UA plus give me a free education I’d jump on it. Better than being in the G-league.
If Carter is picked 20th, he would make $3,658,800 his 1st year, $3,841,680 his 2nd year & $4,024,440 his 3rd year. I've heard we are offering CB around $1.5 million next year. Are you giving up over $2 million dollars to stay in college? I don't think many of us would make that deal
No one would make that deal unless they thought they could double it or close to that by staying one year and also give them the chance to earn that payday an extra 5 years by sticking in the league. It is always going to be about being around for that second deal.
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What you post here Cat is self defeating. If it’s all about the 2nd contract, the 1st contract doesn’t matter, and coming back for a chance at doubling the 1st contract’s value makes zero sense.
Might as well get the clock started.
For 1st round picks only the 1st 2 seasons are guaranteed. Seasons 3 and 4 are team options and involved structured raises as a % of one’s prior salary. The “it’s all about the 2nd contract” theory is financially sound but when it comes from a college coach or fan it has a tinge of bias to it. That bias being something like, “stay and develop another season and your chances of getting a second contract improve significantly”.
I don’t believe there is any truth in that. And, there is obviously a ton of self serving.
When it comes to Bryant, leave aside what I have posted recently, and ask yourself this: how many projected top 20 1st round NBA picks for Arizona have come back for another season?
Who was the last one?
Miles Simon?
Rondae maybe?
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 1:40 pm
by Winger
Used Draft Express/Givony mock drafts as a proxy for projected top 20 pick. Went back several mocks before the actual draft (6/25/14) in case RHJ was mocked high and then dropped because he pulled out.
3/31
AG - #8
RHJ - NR
4/26
AG - #8
RHJ - NR
5/25
AG - #10
RHJ - NR
6/14
AG - #10
RHJ - NR
6/25
AG - #8
RHJ - NR
By that measure RHJ doesn’t appear to have been top 20. Gordon went #4 in the end (Wiggins, Parker, Embiid).
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 7:18 am
by Winger
Athletic moved Bryant up to #9 in its latest mock.
Appears what I heard and posted here last week wasnt bs.
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 7:51 am
by Chicat
See ya CB. Go make bank.
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 8:23 am
by azcat49
You go that high you have to go. Hoping he lets CTL know soon so we can back fill as best we can
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 1:06 pm
by TheCat
If he has a guarantee from an actual team that is a no brainer. Not sure how these evaluations are changing other than some guys stating they are coming back and you move up a spot. These guys aren't trying out for teams yet are they? Interviewing?
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 6:21 am
by Chicat
SBNation just put out a mock draft with CB at 13 to the Hawks.
He gone.
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 6:47 am
by Winger
TheCat wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:06 pm
If he has a guarantee from an actual team that is a no brainer. Not sure how these evaluations are changing other than some guys stating they are coming back and you move up a spot. These guys aren't trying out for teams yet are they? Interviewing?
I cant talk about it/the specifics but I dont believe any of this is related to other players withdrawing or anything of the like. I am not in the room so I cant say for certain that what I posted is true, hence my “98% he is gone” or whatever it was, and while I will wait for ESPN to move him up to be 100% convinced, what ‘mo there has been so far sure seems to support what I heard and posted.
Though I am on an island with that info it appears so …
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 8:18 am
by Postmaster
I just wish he would get with Tracey Chapman and make a decision.
Re: Carter Bryant
Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 8:25 am
by Fishclamps
Postmaster wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 8:18 am
I just wish he would get with Tracey Chapman and make a decision.
Postmaster wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 8:18 am
I just wish he would get with Tracey Chapman and make a decision.
He's got a fast car?
Can someone give him one reason to stay here?
If he really wants all the experiences that come with playing another season at Arizona and is willing to put off hoops as a cutthroat isolating business-career (and the extra $$$ that would come with that) for a year in exchange.
At this point I have it that he is already fringing upon being the 10th pick or better (and that is 10 days old now and could have changed). So playing your way into the lottery is for all intensive purposes out. Even if that is off it is assured that even if he is picked 20th Arizona’s NIL won’t compete with his 1st year’s NBA salary. If he is good enough to play in the NBA that imv will manifest regardless or whether or not he goes to a “good” franchise or one that has a spot in its rotation for him early on, so; attempting to micromanage the draft is a fool’s errand.
But there are going to be a lot of external pressures to go for sure and the history of the world says that it’s really tough to say no.