Bear Down Wildcats

Alieberman wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:55 am That is a great Freshman class!

Add a couple pieces from the portal and we are ready to fly

VegasCatFan wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am

Alieberman wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:55 am That is a great Freshman class!

Add a couple pieces from the portal and we are ready to fly

And hopefully get Bryant back for one more year.

AZCatGirl wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:11 pm So can Tommy recruit yet?

UAEebs86 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:02 pm Not bad for a school that can't compete in the NIL era.

84Cat wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:00 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:02 pm Not bad for a school that can't compete in the NIL era.

Winger wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:23 am

UAEebs86 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:02 pm Not bad for a school that can't compete in the NIL era.

Maybe it’s Clutch (who reps all of these guys) but assuming it isn’t a 1 off this class is very reassuring to Arizona fans in a few different ways. It helps to justify Lloyd’s recruiting philosophy (which heretofore at Arizona hadn’t produced very good results), it signals that Arizona can remain a quasi blueblood in this new era, and it is a sign that Arizona is going to be good enough to matter nationally next season. It is also important to Arizona’s GM because preps are cheaper than transfers in this new era.

WildcatStunner wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:01 pm Seeing posts online that a grad transfer PG from Harvard named Evan Nelson committed to play for us. Can anyone corroborate?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DISagzVNlXr/

Played at Salpointe in HS.

Postmaster wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:26 pm I was Stone Gettings from Harvard?

Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:58 pm My buddy was talking about him the other day but I’d never heard of him.

My preference is for major conference transfers personally, but I’m not paid millions to run the program.

TucsonClip wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:44 pm I will keep my thoughts a bit more tame here, as I went to war elsewhere. However, here was my scout on Nelson before he committed.

Games watched: @ Colorado, didnt need/want to watch more

I will keep this one short...

If the plan is to recruit a back up PG, then I guess he can work. He reminds me of a mixture between PJC and Conrad. Good in the PNR, but offers no shot creation for himself, he isn't a threat to get to the rim, paint and spray, draw fouls. He is a connector at PG, meaning he is going to get off the ball, keep continuity make the right read, push the ball ahead. Obviously, the numbers say he can connect from three, but he doesnt offer anything I would be looking for on ball, other than he has good vision and is a good passer.

Defensively, he is thin, a decent athletie, but isnt going to offer resistance on ball, and especially off ball help side. He is active, constantly moving (even on offense), and know where to be, can make the reads. The problem is he isnt long enough, athletic enough, or big enough provide much more than a thin body in the way.

This is a pass for me. We need someone more dynamic on the ball, and someone who can do a bit more defensively. The shooting is nice, but he isnt creating his own shot. Again, think Conrad/PJC here. Get off the ball, keep the ball moving, knows where to be on defense, but too small to offer any resistance.



Overall, my point was we need to go for it. I know we dont have a massive NIl warchest, and we likely burned through it all on Burries and Koa, and Tommy should receive credit for that 100%.

My point has been, the bench isnt good enough to support what is clearly a FF caliber core. I certainly do not trust ADO, felt we desperately needed a reserve CG in the mold of Justin Kier. Nelson is not that guy. Hes a PG. Apparently the staff is quite high on Aristode, and that is also fantastic. However, in my eyes we are back to a 7 man rotation with a razors edge margin for error.

UAEebs86 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:23 pm The Harvard BB site says he was a senior, so a grad transfer?

Hope he got his Ivy League degree before coming to the Harvard of the West

84Cat wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:36 am

UAEebs86 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:23 pm The Harvard BB site says he was a senior, so a grad transfer?

Hope he got his Ivy League degree before coming to the Harvard of the West

No, not a grad transfer. He missed a year due to injury but the Ivy league doesn't allow red shirts.

TucsonClip wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:44 pm I will keep my thoughts a bit more tame here, as I went to war elsewhere. However, here was my scout on Nelson before he committed.

Games watched: @ Colorado, didnt need/want to watch more

I will keep this one short...

If the plan is to recruit a back up PG, then I guess he can work. He reminds me of a mixture between PJC and Conrad. Good in the PNR, but offers no shot creation for himself, he isn't a threat to get to the rim, paint and spray, draw fouls. He is a connector at PG, meaning he is going to get off the ball, keep continuity make the right read, push the ball ahead. Obviously, the numbers say he can connect from three, but he doesnt offer anything I would be looking for on ball, other than he has good vision and is a good passer.

Defensively, he is thin, a decent athletie, but isnt going to offer resistance on ball, and especially off ball help side. He is active, constantly moving (even on offense), and know where to be, can make the reads. The problem is he isnt long enough, athletic enough, or big enough provide much more than a thin body in the way.

This is a pass for me. We need someone more dynamic on the ball, and someone who can do a bit more defensively. The shooting is nice, but he isnt creating his own shot. Again, think Conrad/PJC here. Get off the ball, keep the ball moving, knows where to be on defense, but too small to offer any resistance.



Overall, my point was we need to go for it. I know we dont have a massive NIl warchest, and we likely burned through it all on Burries and Koa, and Tommy should receive credit for that 100%.

My point has been, the bench isnt good enough to support what is clearly a FF caliber core. I certainly do not trust ADO, felt we desperately needed a reserve CG in the mold of Justin Kier. Nelson is not that guy. Hes a PG. Apparently the staff is quite high on Aristode, and that is also fantastic. However, in my eyes we are back to a 7 man rotation with a razors edge margin for error.

Hank of sb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:32 am

TucsonClip wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:44 pm I will keep my thoughts a bit more tame here, as I went to war elsewhere. However, here was my scout on Nelson before he committed.

Games watched: @ Colorado, didnt need/want to watch more

I will keep this one short...

If the plan is to recruit a back up PG, then I guess he can work. He reminds me of a mixture between PJC and Conrad. Good in the PNR, but offers no shot creation for himself, he isn't a threat to get to the rim, paint and spray, draw fouls. He is a connector at PG, meaning he is going to get off the ball, keep continuity make the right read, push the ball ahead. Obviously, the numbers say he can connect from three, but he doesnt offer anything I would be looking for on ball, other than he has good vision and is a good passer.

Defensively, he is thin, a decent athletie, but isnt going to offer resistance on ball, and especially off ball help side. He is active, constantly moving (even on offense), and know where to be, can make the reads. The problem is he isnt long enough, athletic enough, or big enough provide much more than a thin body in the way.

This is a pass for me. We need someone more dynamic on the ball, and someone who can do a bit more defensively. The shooting is nice, but he isnt creating his own shot. Again, think Conrad/PJC here. Get off the ball, keep the ball moving, knows where to be on defense, but too small to offer any resistance.



Overall, my point was we need to go for it. I know we dont have a massive NIl warchest, and we likely burned through it all on Burries and Koa, and Tommy should receive credit for that 100%.

My point has been, the bench isnt good enough to support what is clearly a FF caliber core. I certainly do not trust ADO, felt we desperately needed a reserve CG in the mold of Justin Kier. Nelson is not that guy. Hes a PG. Apparently the staff is quite high on Aristode, and that is also fantastic. However, in my eyes we are back to a 7 man rotation with a razors edge margin for error.

The Aristode talk has been extremely strong. I can't find out what his injury was (?) and how much missing his entire senior year lessons his impact but, apparently, he is a leader and, reportedly comes with a perfect, very strong, swing forward body. He's like KJ except bigger. I'm guessing he'll be our 8th man. I'll suggest he's a lock there. Hence, the Harvard guy might be OK as our 9th man. It's not like JB can't play all game as he's not an injury prone guy.

If Carter comes back this team will be our best team on paper, IMO, in 15 years. That is, if Krivas' feet hold up enough to give us 20 minutes.......every game.

Winger wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:57 am

TucsonClip wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:44 pm I will keep my thoughts a bit more tame here, as I went to war elsewhere. However, here was my scout on Nelson before he committed.

Games watched: @ Colorado, didnt need/want to watch more

I will keep this one short...

If the plan is to recruit a back up PG, then I guess he can work. He reminds me of a mixture between PJC and Conrad. Good in the PNR, but offers no shot creation for himself, he isn't a threat to get to the rim, paint and spray, draw fouls. He is a connector at PG, meaning he is going to get off the ball, keep continuity make the right read, push the ball ahead. Obviously, the numbers say he can connect from three, but he doesnt offer anything I would be looking for on ball, other than he has good vision and is a good passer.

Defensively, he is thin, a decent athletie, but isnt going to offer resistance on ball, and especially off ball help side. He is active, constantly moving (even on offense), and know where to be, can make the reads. The problem is he isnt long enough, athletic enough, or big enough provide much more than a thin body in the way.

This is a pass for me. We need someone more dynamic on the ball, and someone who can do a bit more defensively. The shooting is nice, but he isnt creating his own shot. Again, think Conrad/PJC here. Get off the ball, keep the ball moving, knows where to be on defense, but too small to offer any resistance.



Overall, my point was we need to go for it. I know we dont have a massive NIl warchest, and we likely burned through it all on Burries and Koa, and Tommy should receive credit for that 100%.

My point has been, the bench isnt good enough to support what is clearly a FF caliber core. I certainly do not trust ADO, felt we desperately needed a reserve CG in the mold of Justin Kier. Nelson is not that guy. Hes a PG. Apparently the staff is quite high on Aristode, and that is also fantastic. However, in my eyes we are back to a 7 man rotation with a razors edge margin for error.

Turns the ball over a ton and his PNR metrics aren’t great. Can put some of that on his teammates but the quality of competition was also not very strong. Defensive liability. Based on what I have seen to date he is another ADO at a different position. He can be better in Tommy’s offensive scheme but his D is going to be a major problem. If he is a feel good story junk minutes only, fine, but anything more than that and we have another (and possibly 2 at the same time) ADO on our hands. Hopefully some folks have learned from last season.

Also while its still early I am starting to get the vibe that all of the recent commitments dont really have all that much to do with Lloyd’s recruiting nor Arizona’s NIL. His presentation and track record matter but this all came to Arizona, I think, from about 10,000 feet above Lloyd. Good news is it likely buys Arizona 2-3 seasons which may be long enough to stay relevant until things settle NCAA - nation - wise.

Hank of sb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:46 am Tucson Clip:

The major issue is this scenario is ADO is your 7th man, and I no world is that good enough. Perhaps Aristode shows out and he's legit good. We still have a 7 man rotation which isn't good enough to support a FF worthy core.
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Starting five
6. Awaka
7.Aristode
8. Harvard guy
9. ADO.........................now known to having proved useful making FTs at game's end, & hopefully more experienced, to boot.

There's no world whereby Aristode doesn't beat out ADO, IMO.

Biggest team issue for me is Krivas' feet. Clickety clop. I assume our coach somehow knows our concerns and they are his, too. We need another center.