Bear Down Wildcats

Gladiator Cat wrote:Its all speculation at this point but I really think Sean is looking for a new start somewhere else. We know he loves this program but he exudes the need for a new start. I don't think he's been happy for awhile. Many factors.

That's my observations, but I wouldn't mind being wrong and may in-fact be wrong.

Between the bad luck in the elite 8, the random crap he's had to deal with from season ending injuries all time, the pac 12 refs and Larry Scott, dumb NCAA suspensions of Trier, etc...I wouldn't blame him at all for want to just leave and get a breath of fresh air elsewhere.

BBQ wildcat wrote:

dovecanyoncat wrote:Somewhere from within the difference between vindication and redemption we are going to lose our guy. It fits our fate as we know its history.

Well, hey! One national championship in our lifetime is good, right? I even have the t-shirt.

I'm proud for you and all who were there for it. I moved to Tucson late that year and it has been, how does one put it, a devotion I wouldn't trade for anything. Still ....goddamnit .... I try not to focus on regret.

I’ve been heartbroken on so many occasions at the hands of UA basketball. Going back to ‘98 and losing to Utah. ‘01 and watching Gilbert get hurt in the final four which led to the loss against Duke. ‘03 against kansas who we destroyed earlier that season at the Phog when Salim lit them up from 3. Don’t get me started on our collapse against Illinois in ‘05. I thought that the worst feeling in the world was watching Lute deteriorate. The man I grew up watching on that sideline, unable to pretend he was capable of continuing his reign.

When Miller came, I legitamately was skeptical until ‘11. He took a roster of mid-their talent to the brink of a FF in his second year. I too thought that a Ship was inevitable. Now, I have to watch his reputation get dissolved into shit. This is pain.

We wouldn’t be going through any of this if we just hired Tim Floyd

Longhorned wrote:If the basketball gods gave me a cruel choice between Miller or Trier, I'd pick Trier.

+1

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I’ve been heartbroken on so many occasions at the hands of UA basketball. Going back to ‘98 and losing to Utah. ‘01 and watching Gilbert get hurt in the final four which led to the loss against Duke. ‘03 against kansas who we destroyed earlier that season at the Phog when Salim lit them up from 3. Don’t get me started on our collapse against Illinois in ‘05. I thought that the worst feeling in the world was watching Lute deteriorate. The man I grew up watching on that sideline, unable to pretend he was capable of continuing his reign.

When Miller came, I legitamately was skeptical until ‘11. He took a roster of mid-their talent to the brink of a FF in his second year. I too thought that a Ship was inevitable. Now, I have to watch his reputation get dissolved into shit. This is pain.

it's all gravy after Ben Lindsey

ASUHATER! wrote:

Gladiator Cat wrote:Its all speculation at this point but I really think Sean is looking for a new start somewhere else. We know he loves this program but he exudes the need for a new start. I don't think he's been happy for awhile. Many factors.

That's my observations, but I wouldn't mind being wrong and may in-fact be wrong.

Between the bad luck in the elite 8, the random crap he's had to deal with from season ending injuries all time, the pac 12 refs and Larry Scott, dumb NCAA suspensions of Trier, etc...I wouldn't blame him at all for want to just leave and get a breath of fresh air elsewhere.

All 100% true Hater. Really kind of sad when you think about it.

I feel like we just transitioned our loved one into hospice following a few days of hope waiting around in the icu for things to turn around.

Today would’ve been the day to come out for Miller. And I’m sure as shit it was some ignorant Maricopa co based ABOR that couldn’t be swayed to get on board.

I think staff turnover wears on coaches. I also think it hurt more than we think when Archie left.

Feeling rattled. May need a break from college hoops. Just for my sanity. Time to use this Headspace subscription.

pc in NM wrote:

Longhorned wrote:If the basketball gods gave me a cruel choice between Miller or Trier, I'd pick Trier.

+1

The basketball gods are jealous vindictive cunts and their vulgar vainglorious temples should be razed.

97cats wrote:

NYCat wrote:How good a bag dropper is Billy Donovan

if i told you he was better, would you believe me???

I’ll take Brad Stevens.

CatFanOneMil wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 653f0.html

From the article (which is quoting the FBI documents):

""As of now, the coaches haven't asked for anything," he told the witness, "but I'm sure when the time comes, they will, right?" "

How come no one ever quotes THAT part of the investigation...???

This was March of 2017...

It sounds to me like this is a bullshit sandwich between a piece of Dawkins and a piece of Book...

Eat it at your own peril.

This has to be the price to that solves the puzzle right? Schlabach said originally it was 2017...and that timing doesn't make sense at all. But if it was in 2016...the line above shows in the FBI's own records that Arizona hadn't asked for anything.

If they fire him they give credence to ESPN and Hansen, who blatantly lied on radio today.

That makes zero logical sense as nothing has changed since all this broke in September.

ChooChooCat wrote:97 knows what I think all of us knew regardless and that's that Arizona and Miller's time together is coming to an end soon. It's a matter of how soon at this point.

ya and its been a good fricking run, I just didn't expect to potentially go down like this.

Sean Miller came to Arizona when we needed him more than ever and produced 242 wins, I can say I'm more than pleased with the results and all the good times that came with it.

I do believe and have since the FBI scandal hit that he was coming down the stretch at AZ - I was hearing more chatter than ever from folks at a different altitude than I was used to.

it appeared to me that after the season both parties would go their separate ways amicably, that can still happen.

let the coach finish his final run and begin the healing process at that point.

and if for some stroke tomorrow Trier gets cleared I believe the Wildcats have the best shot to cut the nets down in Sean Miller's nine years.

Go Cats!!

Olsondogg wrote:

KP should know that Hansen hasn't been on our side since early in the Lute years. Fuck Hansen!

This is fucking bullshit.

dovecanyoncat wrote:Somewhere from within the difference between vindication and redemption we are going to lose our guy. It fits our fate as we know its history.

Believe it or not the first year I followed the Cats was their worst year ever. It was a tough pill to swallow seeing the score of us losing to UCLA by 50 plus points that year in the newspaper. I thought nothing would change but then Lute Olson got hired and things changed dramatically. A few years later Arizona got to its first Final Four. In some ways I have the same feelings I had in that year before Lute arrived. Miller's been through a lot since he's been here. Lots of success coupled with lots of frustration and heartbreak. No matter what happens I will always be an Arizona Wildcat basketball fan. We've been blessed with a lot of success through the years and I'm thankful for that. I've come this far rooting for the team and I'll go the distance rooting for them. Who knows, maybe things won't turn out as bad as a lot of people think. Sometimes things do have to get worse before they can get better.

azgreg wrote:

Frybry02 wrote:

azgreg wrote:God damn it, now I'm out of Jack. Gotta switch to Bacardi. This is that wrinkled ass twatpickle Hansen's fault.

I would love to have a drink with you sometime, I am pretty sure we only live a few miles apart.

Honestly, being in Phoenix, I never paid much attentition to Hansen until these past 4 days. I am sure glad I didnt waste any time on him or his stories any earlier.

39th ave and Tbird.

I lived at 36th Ave. and Cactus on a street called Aster Drive, until I was 4 years old.

Olsondogg wrote:If they fire him they give credence to ESPN and Hansen, who blatantly lied on radio today.

That makes zero logical sense as nothing has changed since all this broke in September.

I don't think a firing is how it will resolve. Just as 97 implies, the toll is mounting on the man and he is disengaging from practices. Even though we don't know exactly why he's disengaging it's not unreasonable to speculate that binary choices aren't what matters to him as a coach, husband, father, individual. He should do what's best for him in totality. It's about more than basketball at this point. I wish him peace.

CalStateTempe wrote:I feel like we just transitioned our loved one into hospice following a few days of hope waiting around in the icu for things to turn around.

Today would’ve been the day to come out for Miller. And I’m sure as shit it was some ignorant Maricopa co based ABOR that couldn’t be swayed to get on board.

I'm still on board that more time is better. The intial reaction was SO bad. Friday, I went to bed thinking I'd wake up and he'd be gone.

The longer it goes, the more facts emerge and all the bad initial emotions subside. I don't know where it leads, but it leads to a smarter, better outcome. It leads to an outcome we deserve, not one driven by the lynch mob mentality.

Arizona is in a terrible position. And the 97cats scenario seems like the best case for everyone.

97cats wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:97 knows what I think all of us knew regardless and that's that Arizona and Miller's time together is coming to an end soon. It's a matter of how soon at this point.

ya and its been a good fricking run, I just didn't expect to potentially go down like this.

Sean Miller came to Arizona when we needed him more than ever and produced 242 wins, I can say I'm more than pleased with the results and all the good times that came with it.

I do believe and have since the FBI scandal hit that he was coming down the stretch at AZ - I was hearing more chatter than ever from folks at a different altitude than I was used to.

it appeared to me that after the season both parties would go their separate ways amicably, that can still happen.

let the coach finish his final run and begin the healing process at that point.

and if for some stroke tomorrow Trier gets cleared I believe the Wildcats have the best shot to cut the nets down in Sean Miller's nine years.

Go Cats!!

thanks for wisdom and insight

Longhorned wrote:

azgreg wrote:

Frybry02 wrote:

azgreg wrote:God damn it, now I'm out of Jack. Gotta switch to Bacardi. This is that wrinkled ass twatpickle Hansen's fault.

I would love to have a drink with you sometime, I am pretty sure we only live a few miles apart.

Honestly, being in Phoenix, I never paid much attentition to Hansen until these past 4 days. I am sure glad I didnt waste any time on him or his stories any earlier.

39th ave and Tbird.

I lived at 36th Ave. and Cactus on a street called Aster Drive, until I was 4 years old.

That house is now a red dot on a sexual predator map.

I’m still holding out for the Western PA side of Miller that makes him think “fuck it, I’m going to stick around and shove it to all of the doubters.” But, this isn’t Halloween. We can’t all be Pimps from Oakland, Cowboys from Arizona.

Olsondogg wrote:If he was at practice it would have signaled he was back. Just cause he wasn’t doesn’t mean he isn’t. I think it just means no decision.

I think that he gets his last run. Look at the local shitshow today.

Agree. The time for a panic move was Friday or Saturday. A conservative move would have been yesterday. I think it is fine but practice tomorrow or word from Robbins or ABOR would be big.

So who is gonna start the "Miller to Pitt thread"

Maybe we can trade him for Stallings?

#justus #allin
I'll be at the game Sat if Miller doesn't get to send his seniors off and praise them over a fucking shit show of of i meant umm etc. That will be a sad night.

At bedtime my 2.5 year old randomly starting singing bear down. That’s not a coincidence guys.

Olsondogg wrote:At bedtime my 2.5 year old randomly starting singing bear down. That’s not a coincidence guys.

Tomorrow will be a better day

Also the UA alumni president just started following me on Twitter. Also not a coincidence.

Better wait a year or 2 to see who who has not been linked. I am still with Sean.

Olsondogg wrote:Also the UA alumni president just started following me on Twitter. Also not a coincidence.

What's ur feeling ?

Any search parties find Schlacock yet?

It’s above...one last stroll through the park.

I will say this. Nobody can use “Well this is a shit show” to describe Arizona basketball ever again.

That’s gotta be a good thing in the long run.

We need to get this situation resolved and play the tourney.

When the offseason comes, first I hope there's a choice and he's not fired or driven out. Then, it's time to sit down and figure out the future. If it leads to a parting of ways, it does. If he stays, he has excelled here.

There's a lot from the Miller era I want to keep. I want AG, TJ and Lauri (and Ayton) to keep repping Arizona in the NBA. I want to remember going from shambles to an Elite Eight in 2 years. I went to McKale the night of the UConn loss to welcome the team home. If TJ decides to be a coach, I want him to consider coming back to Tucson. I want to remember how excited I was to have the #1 ranking when we were undefeated in 2013-14.

I don't want this outcome, whatever it is, to bury that. If it ends with Miller leaving, so be it. If he continues, he's our coach for a reason. I just don't want this to be an end that closes his time here with such a negative that it buries the era. We've done things worth carrying forward.

Olsondogg wrote:It’s above...one last stroll through the park.

I had one of those once, it remains unforgettable. And no euphemisms, it was a lovely evening sitting in a park hashing and rehashing good times till it was time to leave.

Would be awesome to have one last long goodbye with Miller and the cats.

What coach will want to follow The Witch? Even though no Final Four (this year?), Elite 8's, conference champions, conf tourney titles, and being the face of the west.

A Steve Alford type or a complete flier on one willing to risk it for the tough rebuild.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:There's a lot from the Miller era I want to keep. I want AG, TJ and Lauri (and Ayton) to keep repping Arizona in the NBA. I want to remember going from shambles to an Elite Eight in 2 years. I went to McKale the night of the UConn loss to welcome the team home. If TJ decides to be a coach, I want him to consider coming back to Tucson. I want to remember how excited I was to have the #1 ranking when we were undefeated in 2013-14.

I don't want this outcome, whatever it is, to bury that. If it ends with Miller leaving, so be it. If he continues, he's our coach for a reason. I just don't want this to be an end that closes his time here with such a negative that it buries the era. We've done things worth carrying forward.

Very much appreciate this, Spiff.

Tubby Smith comes for a few transition years?

You could go through this thread and identify 7 of the 12 stages of grief.

I'm still in denial dang it, it hasn't even happened yet. Come on, I can still see this work out. Let's all go canoeing in Egypt together!!!

Postmaster wrote:Tubby Smith comes for a few transition years?

Miller is still our coach let's not start this narrative yet

97cats wrote:

splitsecond wrote:I mean fuck it, I am game for Romar Ball if he can find an assistant to coach defense

next year = zero chance

there is a better chance of Sean returning next year than Romar being the head guy in 2018/19

Since it seems like this has been in the works awhile, any names for head coach next year you can divulge that is on our radar?

I would love for the students to hold a rally for Sean Miller tomorrow. Be so loud that the guys in Bristol will hear them.

azcat34 wrote:

97cats wrote:

splitsecond wrote:I mean fuck it, I am game for Romar Ball if he can find an assistant to coach defense

next year = zero chance

there is a better chance of Sean returning next year than Romar being the head guy in 2018/19

Since it seems like this has been in the works awhile, any names for head coach next year you can divulge that is on our radar?

An alum

Olsondogg wrote:

azcat34 wrote:

97cats wrote:

splitsecond wrote:I mean fuck it, I am game for Romar Ball if he can find an assistant to coach defense

next year = zero chance

there is a better chance of Sean returning next year than Romar being the head guy in 2018/19

Since it seems like this has been in the works awhile, any names for head coach next year you can divulge that is on our radar?

An alum

Miles Simon

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:

azcat34 wrote:

97cats wrote:

splitsecond wrote:I mean fuck it, I am game for Romar Ball if he can find an assistant to coach defense

next year = zero chance

there is a better chance of Sean returning next year than Romar being the head guy in 2018/19

Since it seems like this has been in the works awhile, any names for head coach next year you can divulge that is on our radar?

An alum

Miles Simon

Miles didn’t set the world on fire at UA as an assistant.

Give me Damon Stoudamire.

Here is a shirt idea.

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