Flagstaff

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:07 pm

I have to travel to Flag periodically for my job. Have been doing it for about 12 years now and I just got back.

Flag has to be the city with the shittiest food for a city of its size anywhere. Time after time, I cannot find a decent meal anywhere except for one above average BBQ joint.

There are some decent microbreweries, but their food sucks.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:20 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:07 pm I have to travel to Flag periodically for my job. Have been doing it for about 12 years now and I just got back.

Flag has to be the city with the shittiest food for a city of its size anywhere. Time after time, I cannot find a decent meal anywhere except for one above average BBQ joint.

There are some decent microbreweries, but their food sucks.

Martanne's is awesome for breakfast.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:32 pm

You'd think being a college hipstery kinda town that is now over 100k people in its "metro" area, they'd have a whole bunch of awesome restaurants and places to go there.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:00 pm

Josephine's wasn't bad.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:45 pm

Yea that is true. I've never heard anything good about the food scene in Flagstaff. There's tons of cities all over the country that are significantly smaller and have some amazing food.

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:43 am

I remember the Student Cafeteria was pretty good... if you enjoy food fight protests over inedible food.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:55 pm

Tucson Foodie is very big on food in Flagstaff:

https://tucsonfoodie.com/2019/06/14/get ... eat-drink/

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:09 pm

My stepdad used to live in Flag and loves Satchmo's. We went once and I thought it was OK.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:36 pm

It would be great if there were a Navajo cafe in Flagstaff like the Blue Coffee Pot in Kayenta.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:22 pm

I like Satchmos. The only good food I've found there.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:27 pm

We love Macy's cafe but it might be a little too hippyish for some people's taste. It's been in the same location since we left NAU in 1983

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:28 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:22 pm I like Satchmos. The only good food I've found there.

Have you gone to Martanne's for breakfast?

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm

No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:58 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.

That's our choice as well.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:13 am

Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.

I looked it up and Martanne's is open until 9PM. I've never ordered their lunch or dinner food but I vouch for their breakfasts.

Never went to the Diablo Burger in Flag but went to the one in Tucson when it was still open and it was pretty good.

Bigfoot BBQ in the basement of the shopping area downtown is decent.

Toasted Owl is another good breakfast and lunch place.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:50 pm

Thanks. Yeah. Been to Diablo burger. It's good but not really good dinner food. Also really expensive burgers. Bigfoot is decent.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:52 pm

azgreg wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.
That's our choice as well.

Embassy is in bad need of rehab. The furniture in my room and that of my two colleagues is really ratty and dirty.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:55 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:52 pm
azgreg wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.
That's our choice as well.
Embassy is in bad need of rehab. The furniture in my room and that of my two colleagues is really ratty and dirty.

Do you have to stay there with your company? I heard the Drury is nice but never got a chance to stay there when my daughter was at NAU.
Might be pricey.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:08 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:52 pm
azgreg wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.
That's our choice as well.
Embassy is in bad need of rehab. The furniture in my room and that of my two colleagues is really ratty and dirty.

I was referring to Embassy as a whole wherever we go. The one in Portland last weekend was in terrific shape.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:01 am

Not to hijack a thread, but what do you consider to be pricey for a hotel room in America these days?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:05 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:01 am Not to hijack a thread, but what do you consider to be pricey for a hotel room in America these days?

When my daughter was at NAU (2016 - 2019) if memory serves correct the Drury was running close to $150 a night, maybe a little less.

I could usually find a decent place elsewhere for $85 - $100, except for homecoming weekend or graduation weekend when they jack the prices way up.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:28 am

UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:05 am
dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:01 am Not to hijack a thread, but what do you consider to be pricey for a hotel room in America these days?
When my daughter was at NAU (2016 - 2019) if memory serves correct the Drury was running close to $150 a night, maybe a little less.

I could usually find a decent place elsewhere for $85 - $100, except for homecoming weekend or graduation weekend when they jack the prices way up.

I start getting grumpy when the base price (before taxes, parking, and bullshit "resort"/"sustainability"/"facility" fees are added) gets above $125 or so. If we're staying in a major metropolitan city and want to do it up right, well, then all bets are off, but if we're just traveling across the country en route to some place and want a Holiday Inn Express I hate the dynamic pricing outliers that make cost $175 all in just to go through some place like Fort Stockton, Texas. But I'm an asshole Boomer who remembers his father bitching back in the day about $24.95 for a Holiday Inn that had color TV and a pool.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:41 am

We got Embassy Suites in Portland for $100 a night.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:28 am But I'm an asshole Boomer who remembers his father bitching back in the day about $24.95 for a Holiday Inn that had color TV and a pool.

My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:55 am

UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am
My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.

Ouch. How were things at home? I remember a protracted debate about water consumption in showers vs. baths. It involved a gallon bucket, a wrist watch, claims of body surface area adjusted for gender and age. This was the guy who in his dotage has blithely vaporized a half mil on a fucking trout pond that he doesn't fish in, that doesn't really support a sustained fish population, and might have been illegal in the first place.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:59 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:55 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am
My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.
Ouch. How were things at home? I remember a protracted debate about water consumption in showers vs. baths. It involved a gallon bucket, a wrist watch, claims of body surface area adjusted for gender and age. This was the guy who in his dotage has blithely vaporized a half mil on a fucking trout pond that he doesn't fish in, that doesn't really support a sustained fish population, and might have been illegal in the first place.

My parents were pretty cheap (I think most of my wardrobe was from K-Mart

), but I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that my dad got laid off a lot. Luckily my mom was a nurse with a steady income.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:54 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:55 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am
My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.
Ouch. How were things at home? I remember a protracted debate about water consumption in showers vs. baths. It involved a gallon bucket, a wrist watch, claims of body surface area adjusted for gender and age. This was the guy who in his dotage has blithely vaporized a half mil on a fucking trout pond that he doesn't fish in, that doesn't really support a sustained fish population, and might have been illegal in the first place.

Amazing

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:25 pm

Chicat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:54 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:55 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am
My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.
Ouch. How were things at home? I remember a protracted debate about water consumption in showers vs. baths. It involved a gallon bucket, a wrist watch, claims of body surface area adjusted for gender and age. This was the guy who in his dotage has blithely vaporized a half mil on a fucking trout pond that he doesn't fish in, that doesn't really support a sustained fish population, and might have been illegal in the first place.

Amazing

and mindboggling and embarrassing. I guess the lesson here is that people change as time closes in. And quite often when they get really old they invert the conditions of childhood they bore so stridently as young adults. My Daddy's family was severely poor .... an apple once a year kind of poor .... and while he's very well off now and giving it all away it still alienates me.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:46 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:25 pm
Chicat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:54 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:55 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:43 am
My dad preferred Motel 6. The ones where there was a key for the TV and you had to pay extra to watch.
Ouch. How were things at home? I remember a protracted debate about water consumption in showers vs. baths. It involved a gallon bucket, a wrist watch, claims of body surface area adjusted for gender and age. This was the guy who in his dotage has blithely vaporized a half mil on a fucking trout pond that he doesn't fish in, that doesn't really support a sustained fish population, and might have been illegal in the first place.

Amazing
and mindboggling and embarrassing. I guess the lesson here is that people change as time closes in. And quite often when they get really old they invert the conditions of childhood they bore so stridently as young adults. My Daddy's family was severely poor .... an apple once a year kind of poor .... and while he's very well off now and giving it all away it still alienates me.

I can’t wait to get old and become a total miserly asshole. It will be all off-brand bagels and socks I pick up at yard sales.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:50 am

UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:55 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:52 pm
azgreg wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:58 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:33 pm No. I'm usually staying at the Embassy Suites. Their free Omellets are tough to beat.
That's our choice as well.
Embassy is in bad need of rehab. The furniture in my room and that of my two colleagues is really ratty and dirty.
Do you have to stay there with your company? I heard the Drury is nice but never got a chance to stay there when my daughter was at NAU.
Might be pricey.

I can stay anywhere I want, as long as it's under a certain rate. Drury is OK too, but their breakfast doesn't compare to Embassy.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:07 pm

I forgot how much I like Flagstaff.

Also, had Cornish Pasty Co. for dinner last night, which is always a great meal. It's an Arizona chain, though, so it doesn't really negate the criticism of Flagstaff restaurants.

Would love to try Josephine's, which is beloved, but it's booked for weeks.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:14 pm

I've eaten at the Cornish Pasty Co. here in Phoenix a number of times. Pretty decent.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:31 pm

The highly touted pizza at Dark Sky Brewing gets a 'D'.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:16 pm

I hadn't realized the Grand Canyon Cafe Chop Suey closed. What a loss. After 75 years, the Wongs sold it in 2017 and the new owners "improved" it, and everyone hated it so it had to close. I've read really good things about the butcher/deli in the space, though. They kept the iconic sign and front.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:18 am

About to try Biff's Bagels. People are crazy for it. The line runs through the interior, out the door, around the corner, and people are fist-fucking in the street. Never seen such mania since Hot Doug's in Chicago. Expect my raving review.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:35 am

Longhorned wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:18 am About to try Biff's Bagels. People are crazy for it. The line runs through the interior, out the door, around the corner, and people are fist-fucking in the street. Never seen such mania since Hot Doug's in Chicago. Expect my raving review.

It's OK

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:19 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:35 am
Longhorned wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:18 am About to try Biff's Bagels. People are crazy for it. The line runs through the interior, out the door, around the corner, and people are fist-fucking in the street. Never seen such mania since Hot Doug's in Chicago. Expect my raving review.
It's OK

Yep. A legit full rung above just bad. Solidly below average. By usual standards, a 'C-'. No wonder everyone goes nuts for it.

What would happen if a place in Flagstaff were to make decent food? Would the universe tear apart?

I'm going to try that butcher place in the old Grand Canyon Cafe space.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:24 pm

Longhorned wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:19 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:35 am
Longhorned wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:18 am About to try Biff's Bagels. People are crazy for it. The line runs through the interior, out the door, around the corner, and people are fist-fucking in the street. Never seen such mania since Hot Doug's in Chicago. Expect my raving review.
It's OK
Yep. A legit full rung above just bad. Solidly below average. By usual standards, a 'C-'. No wonder everyone goes nuts for it.

What would happen if a place in Flagstaff were to make decent food? Would the universe tear apart?

I'm going to try that butcher place in the old Grand Canyon Cafe space.

Try Martanne's for breakfast

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:30 pm

Thanks! Looks great. The stuff I'd want to order most would suffer from take out in cold styrofoam containers, though (can't eat in with an unvaccinated child)

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